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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



communism bitch posted:

Some of you may remember i had a bunch of poshos in my office last week all talking about what a lovely chap feilding mellen was.
Well some of them were back this week to continue their work and they were all shouting and swearing at each other in agreement about how loving stupid the mayor is and "this is all eco green bollocks" and how "well zinc has to be mined and flown here and that's all airmiles, not very loving green is it?".
I didn't twig at the time but now i guess they were talking about Grenfell because I gather that the cladding could have or should have been made of zinc, and that this would've been an improvement. I assume this contorted argument was them all trying to convince themselves and each other that their mate isn't a massive oval office lol.
yeah it appeared in bbc earlier today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40453054

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Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

communism bitch posted:

Some of you may remember i had a bunch of poshos in my office last week all talking about what a lovely chap feilding mellen was.
Well some of them were back this week to continue their work and they were all shouting and swearing at each other in agreement about how loving stupid the mayor is and "this is all eco green bollocks" and how "well zinc has to be mined and flown here and that's all airmiles, not very loving green is it?".
I didn't twig at the time but now i guess they were talking about Grenfell because I gather that the cladding could have or should have been made of zinc, and that this would've been an improvement. I assume this contorted argument was them all trying to convince themselves and each other that their mate isn't a massive oval office lol.

Do you work in a prison

Please tell me you work in a prison.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

There are too many people really, it fucks up everything

Back to the 1800s with you Malthus!

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



'Perceived' failings ah yes I do perceive the 220 foot tall monument to almost a hundred dead human beings (probably more itbt), choked and burned because profits were more important than lives.

Get in the loving sea Paget-Brown.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

yeah it appeared in bbc earlier today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40453054

This was a couple days ago so i guess they got an early line on the news. :tinfoil:

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

yeah it appeared in bbc earlier today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40453054

I accept I am perceived to be responsible for these perceived failings that allegedly may have contributed to this perceived disaster

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Do you work in a prison

Please tell me you work in a prison.

It feels like it sometimes, but no.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

namesake posted:

Back to the 1800s with you Malthus!

Seriously though convince me that population growth won't gently caress everything up

There should be like 20 million people at the most, that'd be manageable

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Dance Officer posted:

I understand that May is a turd and has elected to let a turd handle brexit negotiations, but surely there must be some vaguely competent people in the Tories? Amber Rudd or even Jake Rees-Mog?

He would hate you calling him Jake for a start

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






namesake posted:

lol, Jacob would get us to leave the EU immediately and send gunboats to shell Egypt and take back the Suez.
If he invades Spain to protect Gibralter as well, I'm on board with all of this.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Beefeater1980 posted:

The risk is that there might not be enough resources in the whole world to spread that wealth to everyone else. That's my liberal centrist worry: we actually can't produce enough for a global surplus at our current level of technology and when that becomes obvious people will get violent so as to get their share.

What resources are we dealing with that the current level of technology can't produce enough of?

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Extreme0 posted:

What resources are we dealing with that the current level of technology can't produce enough of?

Gold toilets and bugatti veyrons just for starters

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

so corbyn is going to champion an authortarian leftist policy of surging up police spebding ? how is this a good thing.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.facebook.com/VictoriaDerbyshire/videos/10154725708011547

this is a fun one

this dead forum needs to learn how to embed facebook vids

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

LeoMarr posted:

so corbyn is going to champion an authortarian leftist policy of surging up police spebding ? how is this a good thing.

Because more police officers means more community engagement means less of a fortress mentality among police. It shifts the emphasis back towards them being civil servants rather than the fist of the state.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Seriously though convince me that population growth won't gently caress everything up

There should be like 20 million people at the most, that'd be manageable

cause the population is leveling off in places where women are being liberated, have access to birth control and attain higher educational levels. this means a bunch of populations in the first world are getting older (which isn't ideal) which means they'll become progressively more reliant on immigration from poorer countries, which will lead to more wealth going to the poorer countries, which will increase the likelihood of their women being liberated.

the real issue is that climate change will gently caress us WELL before any of that will happen, but describing climate change as an overpopulation problem sort of misses the point. the circumstances which cause climate change also increase populations, but the truth is that we did the most damage with comparatively tiny first world populations

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Extreme0 posted:

What resources are we dealing with that the current level of technology can't produce enough of?

Technology doesn't produce resources, resources get, like, used up. Stuff like water, energy, that kind of thing

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Fans posted:

For confused Europeans it helps to know Brexit was never meant to happen. Calling a referendum on it was a political stunt that massively backfired and now no one knows what to do with it.

Shouldn't the conservatives have learned from that that if you're in power you shouldn't do democracy except when you absolutely have to?

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Mister Adequate posted:

'Perceived' failings ah yes I do perceive the 220 foot tall monument to almost a hundred dead human beings (probably more itbt), choked and burned because profits were more important than lives.

Get in the loving sea Paget-Brown.
Its no wonder that so many people are disengaged with politics at any level, when elected representatives can be proven to be directly responsible for the preventable deaths of hundreds of people and then put out a statement like that which attempts to defer any responsibility for doing so.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Stabbatical posted:

I'd be interested in hearing more about that. Sounds fascinating.

Here you go:

Economic interests versus fundamental freedoms: a historical analysis of the developing role of human rights in the functioning of the European Union

Apologies for the formatting & 1st-google-hit file host. Also, my writing's gotten better since undergrad, I swear.
e: Also, omission of external human rights policy is not by design but due to a 10,000 word limit.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

CoolCab posted:

cause the population is leveling off in places where women are being liberated, have access to birth control and attain higher educational levels. this means a bunch of populations in the first world are getting older (which isn't ideal) which means they'll become progressively more reliant on immigration from poorer countries, which will lead to more wealth going to the poorer countries, which will increase the likelihood of their women being liberated.

the real issue is that climate change will gently caress us WELL before any of that will happen, but describing climate change as an overpopulation problem sort of misses the point. the circumstances which cause climate change also increase populations, but the truth is that we did the most damage with comparatively tiny first world populations

Climate change is hard to fix though, we could fix overpopulation in like hours

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WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Darth Walrus posted:

Because more police officers means more community engagement means less of a fortress mentality among police. It shifts the emphasis back towards them being civil servants rather than the fist of the state.

so more police means less authortarianism jn the streets? and wben l these unarmed police officers start getting cut down by militants?just keep increasing it?

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

CoolCab posted:

cause the population is leveling off in places where women are being liberated, have access to birth control and attain higher educational levels. this means a bunch of populations in the first world are getting older (which isn't ideal) which means they'll become progressively more reliant on immigration from poorer countries, which will lead to more wealth going to the poorer countries, which will increase the likelihood of their women being liberated.

the real issue is that climate change will gently caress us WELL before any of that will happen, but describing climate change as an overpopulation problem sort of misses the point. the circumstances which cause climate change also increase populations, but the truth is that we did the most damage with comparatively tiny first world populations

Im not sure how i feel about international trickledown organised around importing labour to care for our ever growing population of methuselahs.
It seems pretty opportunistic.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
drat but all this real world talk is depressing, no wonder all politicians are cynical assholes that exist only to hate and be hated

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Skinty McEdger posted:

Paget-Brown's deputy Fellen-Mellen also resigned.

Fellen-Mellen got tore to pieces in private eye this week so no wonder he doesn't want the national attention. He's shady as gently caress.

Can we have some kind of rule that your name must not be this stupid to hold office?

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

JFairfax posted:

https://www.facebook.com/VictoriaDerbyshire/videos/10154725708011547

this is a fun one

this dead forum needs to learn how to embed facebook vids

:drat:

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



OwlFancier posted:

Can we have some kind of rule that your name must not be this stupid to hold office?

Falling-Melon is a perfectly cromulent name.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Technology doesn't produce resources, resources get, like, used up. Stuff like water, energy, that kind of thing

Well, I mean, yeah we've been living on the planet a long time. A lot of the water is probably pee by now.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

There should be like 20 million people at the most, that'd be manageable

What? Did you just pull a number out of your arse? Coz even by the most conservative population estimates we passed that somewhere between 4 & 5 millennia ago. For perspective, that's when the Old Kingdom in Egypt was around, before the traditional first Chinese dynasty, the Xia, and to a time when the mythological demigod Gilgamesh is meant to have ruled in Sumeria.

What I'm saying that we can easily sustain significantly more than 20 million people. 10 billion? Maybe not. Bit of room between those number though.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

LeoMarr posted:

so more police means less authortarianism jn the streets? and wben l these unarmed police officers start getting cut down by militants?just keep increasing it?

Britain has tough gun control, meaning that generally the most a terrorist or otherwise violent individual will have is some sort of bladed implement. Dudes with knives are extremely vulnerable to being dogpiled by a half-dozen officers with truncheons and stab vests - and, conveniently, are more likely to come out of the experience alive and fit to face trial than if some tacticool sniper had removed their head with an army-surplus anti-tank rifle, because extrajudicial executions are always a bit legally troubling. Plus, greater community engagement means that people are more likely to trust the police enough to tell them if Cousin Joe's starting to look a bit stabby, so the incident is less likely to happen in the first place.

So yeah, filling the streets with more big, friendly dudes and ladies with big sticks and the training to use them will probably help more than shrinking the police force but giving them enough firepower to re-enact that one scene from Commando.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Im going to emigrate to mars anyway.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

communism bitch posted:

Im going to emigrate to mars anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Sq1Nr58hM

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I feel like someone is confusing terrorism with operation sealion.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

LeoMarr posted:

so more police means less authortarianism jn the streets? and wben l these unarmed police officers start getting cut down by militants?just keep increasing it?

If you're going to keep trolling this thread the very least you could do is turn on loving Autocorrect.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

LeoMarr posted:

so corbyn is going to champion an authortarian leftist policy of surging up police spebding ? how is this a good thing.

It's important to remember that while ACAB, american police are uniquely psychopathic in a way that UK police aren't

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

communism bitch posted:

I didn't twig at the time but now i guess they were talking about Grenfell because I gather that the cladding could have or should have been made of zinc, and that this would've been an improvement. I assume this contorted argument was them all trying to convince themselves and each other that their mate isn't a massive oval office lol.

He seems like a perfectly reasonable chap, I mean who amongst us hasn't accidentally bought a property in an area that turned out was soon to have a huge regeneration program take place around it which we voted for, which led to the property's value doubling.

I mean I know that sounds illegal and like a massive conflict of interests, but you have to appreciate that he bought the property on the very first day of being a private citizen during a five month break from holding council office which makes it completely legal and above board.

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Neurolimal posted:

It's important to remember that while ACAB, american police are uniquely psychopathic in a way that UK police aren't

Hey now! It's not unique! There are tons of 3rd world countries with militarized brutal police forces.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Skinty McEdger posted:

He seems like a perfectly reasonable chap, I mean who amongst us hasn't accidentally bought a property in an area that turned out was soon to have a huge regeneration program take place around it which we voted for, which led to the property's value doubling.

I mean I know that sounds illegal and like a massive conflict of interests, but you have to appreciate that he bought the property on the very first day of being a private citizen during a five month break from holding council office which makes it completely legal and above board.

Hahahaha loving hell. I knew none of this.

and i must meme
Jan 15, 2017

LeoMarr posted:

so corbyn is going to champion an authortarian leftist policy of surging up police spebding ? how is this a good thing.

the british people like authoritarian leftism at the moment ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

and i must meme posted:

the british people like authoritarian leftism at the moment ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Best decision we've made as a nation for a long time.

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