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Snazzy Frocks posted:So how is major retaliate different from retaliate it does 20% more damage yeah it's pretty lame
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Using the points method for rating banners the upcoming Cloud banner is only worth 9 points for me. I might have to pass, especially since I need to save up for any decent water heavy banners. I currently have nothing good of that element. My ice coverage is also terrible. Any post cloud banners people are excited about that are coming up?
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KPC_Mammon posted:Using the points method for rating banners the upcoming Cloud banner is only worth 9 points for me. I might have to pass, especially since I need to save up for any decent water heavy banners. I currently have nothing good of that element. My ice coverage is also terrible. There's a bartz banner in a little while that has his USB, BSB2, BSB3, and LMR that gives a chance at triplecasting spellblade abilities. Also Faris' USB2. And that Galuf glove that gives the invulnerability thing that I'd like to have. That's probably my next target to save for. Rikku's USB is in a couple weeks also and that's supposed to be good but don't know how the rest of the banner is rated. Her water BSB is on there too it looks like. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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Kawalimus posted:There's a bartz banner in a little while that has his USB, BSB2, BSB3, and LMR that gives a chance at triplecasting spellblade abilities. Also Faris' USB2. And that Galuf glove that gives the invulnerability thing that I'd like to have. That's probably my next target to save for. Rikku's USB is hastega, attack and magic boost, and protectga and shellga It makes almost all friend summons obsolete
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Jul 1, 2017 21:33
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I'm still planning to do one pull on Cloud, but my main goal is the Rikku banner, since that has a lot of water and a bit of ice/earth/wind. Then I am saving pretty hard for the aforementioned Bartz/Faris banner, because it just looks absurd and I already have some stuff for each of them.
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Jul 1, 2017 21:48
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KPC_Mammon posted:Help! I'm really tempted to legend dive terra since I have her USB, OSB, and lovely BSB. She is also my favorite character in the franchise. I don't use Terra all the time. I use my full-time healers and support more often, especially when raiding. I know I'd get a lot of bang for my buck if I fed motes to Y'shtola, but those motes will counter eventually. Doing content with my favorite characters is what's fun for me in this game: especially if they hit like a truck.
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Jul 1, 2017 22:03
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Prav posted:sephiroth is horseshit. gently caress this fight. I'm waiting until the FF7 event so I can RW Cloud's USB and try the "do several hundred thousand damage with Orlandu's BSB because gently caress bosses" strategy.
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Jul 1, 2017 22:26
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Evil Fluffy posted:I'm waiting until the FF7 event so I can RW Cloud's USB and try the "do several hundred thousand damage with Orlandu's BSB because gently caress bosses" strategy. I think it goes away before Cloud USB drops, though I haven't checked the exact times and if there's a few hours of overlap.
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Finally completed the Sephiroth fight. gently caress mastery. Mastery would require spending money, and I'm not gonna start now after already coming this far.  Eiko, Angelsong Curada, BSB, Battleforged Vincent, Meltdown Wrath, BSB, Dr. Mog's Teachings Minfillia, Gaia Cross Entrust, BSB, Lionheart Yshtola, Curaise Shellga, BSB and WALL, Mako Might Yuna, Curaja Protectga, USB, Ace Striker RW Eiko USB This is a terrible strategy, don't do this unless you want to set a personal record for characters killed in a single fight. You certainly won't clear the Octoslash requirement.
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Nihilarian posted:Greg's USB is kind of an investment in the future, for when they release a few samurai skills that get a boost from Retaliate. Ehhh. You see, there are problems with that. I have found only one setup for Greg USB that's at all effective: Lifesiphon/Saint or Gaia Cross The USB does not come with any draw fire mechanic, so you have to supply that with abilities. Also, the High Retaliate from the USB, like normal retaliate, only lasts 15 seconds. That's short. If you want to keep it up, you pretty much need to be spamming lifesiphon on your free turns. Greg USB is one of the worst USBs in the game. Really poor entry damage, no way to elementally boost it, its main gimmick is hardly better than a 2* ability, and it's totally reliant on a specific ability load to actually work for anything. Great stat stick, though!
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  A few dicey moments, but in the end only Eiko died and I scraped by with mastery. I must have just come in under ten Octoslashes, by the end Vincent had gauge almost every turn. I would also would like to give a shoutout to Mog's BSB and its instant heal CMD1.
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i dont know if theres a more permanent fix but if you have that android issue where the button images are shifted down you can just hit the home button on your phone and minimize the game and then bring it back up and it'll be fine
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Schwartzcough posted:Ehhh. You see, there are problems with that. I have found only one setup for Greg USB that's at all effective: Can confirm, I give it to Lion a lot, which I feel is pretty appropriate.
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Sephiroth was not too bad for me. Ran tauntaliate for the first time in a long time.  Would have Ramza USB queued up to go off just after a dispel then get the mitigation back up. Orlandeau soaked a ton of damage, and he was the only one to go down once, but Yuna RW kept him up.
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I just noticed that Fran and Vaan's BSBs don't overlap. I need to level them up so I can't check, but could taking both bypass the need for wall when fighting bosses that love dispel? Sephiroth, for example. Edit: According to a calculator I found online, Gaze of the Void and Ark Blast are nearly as good as Wall vs. Magic when combined. Not nearly as good vs. Physical of course. KPC_Mammon fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Jul 2, 2017 01:40
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Ugh I have more than enough gear to beat Seph but I just do not feel like memorizing all the dumbass timing for this fight. There are way too many moments where you need to have the right thing perfectly queued up or you just lose, and as much as I want those motes, I'm not sure it's worth it. Really hope they don't make a habit of locking all the motes behind absurdly hard content like they've done with this and the D300 Bahamut.
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What am I doing wrong with jecht? He wipes out a person with triumphant grasp through several layers of mitigation. I can't win if my dps or healer goes down that early.
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Jul 2, 2017 06:44
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Pander posted:What am I doing wrong with jecht? Triumphant grasp ignores defense. Compose your party of magic users and ranged weapon users, if theyre in the back row the attack becomes pretty weak.
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Pander posted:What am I doing wrong with jecht? Jecht has some def ignoring attacks like Triumphant Grasp. Can you rotate or RW in some alternate methods of survival like Last Stand or Stoneskin?
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Pander posted:What am I doing wrong with jecht? If all else fails, just have your front liners defend when he goes into Overdrive above 50%
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In case it helps anyone, another Sephiroth team:   Vanille BSB, Alph SSB, Faris BSB (full breakdown) & USB (hyperbreak), Mustadio BSB (reverse wall), Cid (shout clone) Basically just debuffed the hell out of him and kept haste up as well as I could. Definitely messed up a lot of timing (having dispel cast when everyone had a totally empty ATB gauge, casting Shout clone moments before a dispel, etc), but you get gauge so fast toward the end that as long as you can take the hits you can get your SBs up again quickly. Cid didn't contribute THAT much so Shout would probably work just as well, and you wouldn't lose that much by just putting Power BD and Full Break on Faris instead of her BSB, with maybe magic BD on another character. I had intended to put this fight off until the last phase, not realizing it ends before orbfest. Almost missed doing it entirely. Pander posted:What am I doing wrong with jecht? Triumphant Grasp, as well as the overdrive he uses later, ignore DEF. So basically your options are to debuff his ATK as much as possible, put as many people in the back row as possible, and try to defend when he goes into overdrive mode. Or bring a Last Stand option. Edit: beaten soundly. Schwartzcough fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Ugh I have more than enough gear to beat Seph but I just do not feel like memorizing all the dumbass timing for this fight. There are way too many moments where you need to have the right thing perfectly queued up or you just lose, and as much as I want those motes, I'm not sure it's worth it. If you're going the Deployment Tactics route, no memorization needed. Just have one person ready to go with an instant heal, either through RW or native, at around the cutoff points (or just always available if super lazy). If you're letting him kill himself, the fight actually isn't that hectic, especially if you break the hell out of him to keep the damage manageable. I went with 2.5 healers (.5 was Alph with a curaga) and two breakers. This didn't yield mastery because my own damage was pretty much non-existent and couldn't win the less than 10 octoslashes condition, but I ended the battle with full health and no one down. Switching out a breaker for a burst DPS could have gotten mastery without a problem.
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What relics are on the Cloud USB banner? I usually use BKP but for some reason some of the images aren't loading
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/5kvadn/jp_vii_cloud_usb_is_here_real_banner/ That's what it was in Japan.
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HPanda posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/5kvadn/jp_vii_cloud_usb_is_here_real_banner/ Thanks! So my fest was salvaged by 2nd pull on P4 for Vaan BSB, Fujin BSB and Alph SSB. 250 mythril for just those three is good enough. Now the wallet is empty though. Wise folk of the Something Awful Games subforum: Phase 5 or Cloud USB? Cloud USB has no dupes and much needed RS gear but the SSB items aren't useful beyond RS/CM stuff. Does Cloud USB even do anything unless I also pull BSB2? P5 dupes are the Agrias relics and Vanille USB. Though Agrias pulls wouldn't be a disaster, my Ragnarok is fully augmented and giving it more power is fine. Excalibur I could reforge to 8*. The banner has Wall which I lack and could use a 2nd healer BSB especially as I have Aeris and Vanille USBs already. Downside is my phys holy team is pretty strong as is. Was supposed to pull on both but the extra P4 pull made me go broke. Can do just one pull before going bankrupt. I'm thinking P5 currently.
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Cloud USB is good by itself but not incredible. With it native, you could RW whatever else onto Cloud to make it incredible, but this would just work for Cloud. If you RW it, you can combine it with whatever else you have. However, if you're always needing to RW Wall, these become trickier. That said, no dupes is generally preferable to dupes. You're at least guaranteed to get something new if nothing else, whereas you risk getting just a small upgrade to one of your relics otherwise. But never chase single relics.
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HPanda posted:Cloud USB is good by itself but not incredible. With it native, you could RW whatever else onto Cloud to make it incredible, but this would just work for Cloud. If you RW it, you can combine it with whatever else you have. However, if you're always needing to RW Wall, these become trickier. And again, it's always worth noting that Native is the only way to get it into the Magicite Dungeons. Also thanks for the advice above, bring Vaan and Fran to a part along with Alph, Garnet and Y'sh got me an Expert on the Crisis Seph fight. 
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Cloud USB requires a certain amount of party support before it becomes stupidly good. If you manage to pull both Cloud USB and Zack CSB, you're set, but otherwise it actually requires a pretty significant amount of setup to really take off. I actually have Cloud USB in Japan (pulled it on the last fest) but have had better success just sticking to my mage party because it's smoother and faster, believe it or not.
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Zurai posted:Cloud USB requires a certain amount of party support before it becomes stupidly good. If you manage to pull both Cloud USB and Zack CSB, you're set, but otherwise it actually requires a pretty significant amount of setup to really take off. I actually have Cloud USB in Japan (pulled it on the last fest) but have had better success just sticking to my mage party because it's smoother and faster, believe it or not. Yup, that I can agree to. I don't have it native but so far my best results from RWing it have come when I used it with my regular party on Lion. Get Shout, Intervene and Chant up, use Lion USB to Hyper Break the target and get a stack of instant-cast, use the first one to pop Cloud USB then hit her BSB and go to town. Usually crack 18-20k a hit on the entry and then between 24-30k per command against 220 diff bosses, with bonus casts here and there thanks to her LM2.
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HPanda posted:Cloud USB is good by itself but not incredible. With it native, you could RW whatever else onto Cloud to make it incredible, but this would just work for Cloud. If you RW it, you can combine it with whatever else you have. However, if you're always needing to RW Wall, these become trickier. I don't have a native shout so I always RW that - Cloud USB wouldn't get to the high numbers without a native shout then would it?
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Sephiroth down. Contrary to most, I found what finally worked for me was moving away from turtlestrat ton something a bit more aggressive; rocked a Seph BSB + OSB combo, and assorted buff/healing pieces, and blitzed out a 41 second kill.
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Is today the last Sephiroth day? Gonna try out Vincent, Tyro, Yshtola + Vanille. I think for the last slot I'll do Minfillia since she can tank and debuff.
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Went with full back row cast vs jecht. Fran bsb Kain bsb Rapha bsb Tyro wall Yshy bsb I used as much lightning gear as I could and figured I'd just dps with rapha and Kain. It worked but I didn't pack haste beyond two charges of edge ssb via RW, so I'd get slowed so much it drove me insane. The mitigation and asylum kept damage low. Lost two medals, battle took 15 mins, would not buy again.
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Try wearing slow resist accessories next time.
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Pulled on banner 4, got Ramza's Chant, Alphinaud's Burst (and I already had Deployment Tactics, so I'm very glad to get this one), Relm's Burst (and I already had her Ultra, but I usually use Y'shtola or Vanille unless synergy's involved). I really wanted Vaan's breakdown knife but I only have 100 mithril left; I was going to save that for banner 5 because I don't have a native wall. I'm assuming that it would be a Bad Idea to pull on 4 again, because I should save my mithril for 5 (and probably Cloud/Rikku's banners shortly thereafter). Does his burst ever come back on a later banner?
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3/11 on Banner 4! Excalibur IV (Dupe), Orichalcum Dirk x2 (Dupe x2). That and Alph's SSB were the only dupes on the banner for me 
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Evil Fluffy posted:I'm waiting until the FF7 event so I can RW Cloud's USB and try the "do several hundred thousand damage with Orlandu's BSB because gently caress bosses" strategy. LornMarkus posted:I think it goes away before Cloud USB drops, though I haven't checked the exact times and if there's a few hours of overlap. THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Is today the last Sephiroth day? Gonna try out Vincent, Tyro, Yshtola + Vanille. I think for the last slot I'll do Minfillia since she can tank and debuff.
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I'm having rotten luck surviving the first stage of Sephiroth with Wall and two healers, so I guess I'll be skipping those motes. It is really frustrating because I've had no issues with any recent time limited stuff and I'm sure I'm doing something wrong but I'm not sure what. I also couldn't survive with Vaan BSB, Fran BSB, and Gilgamesh BSB mitigating damage. I have zero VII synergy armor, how much of a factor would this be?
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KPC_Mammon posted:I'm having rotten luck surviving the first stage of Sephiroth with Wall and two healers, so I guess I'll be skipping those motes. I managed to do it with Vaan and Fran plus Alph, Y'sh and Garnet. I do however have two VII Bangles, and a pair of Cid's Goggles though, not to mention Cloud's Ragnarok to let Vaan do good damage so that may have tilted the scales in my favor.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Is today the last Sephiroth day? Gonna try out Vincent, Tyro, Yshtola + Vanille. I think for the last slot I'll do Minfillia since she can tank and debuff. Tomorrow I believe.
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