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All this RTD talk reminds me, I bought and read The Writers Tale when it first came out. Then bought the extended editions that covered the specials, so went back and reread the original first before checking out the new stuff. And holy poo poo, I was literally too depressed from reading it to be able to make it to the specials. It was a weirdly deep insight to someone that you don't get in an autobiography
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Valeyard posted:And holy poo poo, I was literally too depressed from reading it to be able to make it to the specials. It was a weirdly deep insight to someone that you don't get in an autobiography Agreed. The passages where he talks about procrastination (and the self-doubt and self-loathing that underlie it) hit way, way too close to the bone for me to be in a hurry to re-read it. I was kind of amazed that RTD let it be published - it would surely worry any producers hiring him in the future. It was kind of shocking to see, in his own words, the man underneath the public-facing cheerleader persona ("Hoo-ray. Marvellous." etc) totally laid bare in such a self-flagellating way. I can't even begin to fathom what a similar document written by Moffat would be like. Probably super gross and talking about all the ladies he's sexed but how he's also very smart but it's fine because he was a very very nerdy child who didn't have any friends apart from his Target novelisations.
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Jul 2, 2017 21:48
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How did John Simm kill Missy with a sonic screwdriver? That was dumb.
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Jul 2, 2017 21:50
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It's annoying that they didn't reveal who the new Doctor was at the end of the episode. Now we are going to find out the way we always find out: from the internet after someone snaps a pic of someone on set. All it would have been is a short clip at the end that could have easily been filmed in secret with a skeleton crew.
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Jul 2, 2017 21:51
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Josh Lyman posted:How did John Simm kill Missy with a sonic screwdriver? That was dumb. Laser screwdriver. Who'd have sonic?
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Jul 2, 2017 21:51
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Has anything been confirmed about when they start shooting the next series proper? If they're having an autumn premiere, they could theoretically start filming on, like, the 2nd of January provided they set their arses in gear. I get the feeling they're going to shoot for the moon and have a next Doctor reveal in-episode. Get some super-mega hype going for the Christmas special. I'd imagine it's something that everyone involved in the production side has always wanted to do in an ideal world, and Chibnall (on Broadchurch) has a track record of avoiding leaks very skillfully...
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Jul 2, 2017 21:57
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Finally caught up. It was a good season! Honestly, I think the title for this thread was part of why I put off watching it... I figured if "It speaks emoji!" was the only line worth keeping as the title for the entire season, that there must not have been anything good going on. Turns out it's just a terrible thread title.
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Jul 2, 2017 22:10
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thexerox123 posted:Finally caught up. It was a good season! Please don't ever take goons this seriously again.
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Jul 2, 2017 22:11
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Carbon dioxide posted:Please don't ever take goons this seriously again. Nah, I'm mostly kidding, I just wanted to dunk on the thread title.
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Jul 2, 2017 22:12
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Can we have 'I shall come back' for the next one? 
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Jul 2, 2017 22:22
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Doctor Who: Its the end...but the moment has been poorly budgeted for
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Slowpoke! posted:It's annoying that they didn't reveal who the new Doctor was at the end of the episode. Now we are going to find out the way we always find out: from the internet after someone snaps a pic of someone on set. They're probably going to do that sometime closer to transmission of the Christmas special. Although it makes a filming schedule for Series 11 difficult if they're wanting complete secrecy.
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Jul 2, 2017 22:36
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Did anyone else notice the continuity error where the Doctor was dirty af when Bill leaves but when he regains consciousness he's suddenly clean ? Also why did Bill remind the Doctor about her sexual preferences in that one moment? I didn't get it. It sounded like she was trying to say she loves him platonically but the way she hinted at it made no sense.
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Jul 2, 2017 22:36
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Doctor Who: Its the end...but the moment has bCONTINUED IN SIX POSTS TIME
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n4 posted:Did anyone else notice the continuity error where the Doctor was dirty af when Bill leaves but when he regains consciousness he's suddenly clean ? She was teasing his ego. It was cute.
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Jul 2, 2017 22:37
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Slowpoke! posted:It's annoying that they didn't reveal who the new Doctor was at the end of the episode. Now we are going to find out the way we always find out: from the internet after someone snaps a pic of someone on set. I watched his face magnified about 30 times, to see if there was a few frames altered like War Doctors to Ecceles transform. Nope, couldn't see poo poo.
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Jul 2, 2017 22:39
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Obviously we'll know who the next Doctor is before the special airs, but when? Is that the sort of thing they'd announce at SDCC in two weeks?
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Jul 2, 2017 22:43
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Josh Lyman posted:How did John Simm kill Missy with a sonic screwdriver? That was dumb. It goes back to Simm's original appearance in Series 3; he has a "Laser Screwdriver" instead of a sonic one. Its a weapon and can also hyper-age people.
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Jul 2, 2017 22:44
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TinTower posted:Yeah, my major issues with Moff are that he is poo poo at season finales and even shitter at financing the show. Yeah this. I prefer most of RTD's season finales, except for Last of the Time Lords, I'm just a fan of doofy poo poo that I can remember and smile about (like the Daleks and Cybermen getting into a screaming match) as opposed to...whatever the gently caress The Wedding of River Song was. I might actually like Last of the Time Lords more than the Wedding of River Song.
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Jul 2, 2017 23:14
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thexerox123 posted:Nah, I'm mostly kidding, I just wanted to dunk on the thread title. It was the only quotable quote in the series trailer 
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Jul 2, 2017 23:18
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Must be cool to be a producer on this show. All your scheduling and budgeting screw ups just get blamed on the show runner so you get off Scott free.
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Jul 2, 2017 23:34
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n4 posted:Did anyone else notice the continuity error where the Doctor was dirty af when Bill leaves but when he regains consciousness he's suddenly clean ? To be fair, he was carried there by two people made of water. 
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MisterBibs posted:Oh, and some choice bits from this might amuse some here: I love the idea that Moffat bounced finale ideas off RTD. I love it even more that RTD was egging him on to be even more OTT. 
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Jul 2, 2017 23:41
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Plavski posted:Must be cool to be a producer on this show. All your scheduling and budgeting screw ups just get blamed on the show runner so you get off Scott free. Moffat is showrunner in his capacity as executive producer, but he's one of two executive producers associated with the show. I'm not sure what exactly Brian Minchin does, though.
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Jul 2, 2017 23:49
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God I wish RTD had written an episode under Moffat. I would have loved to see him get to write something without having to worry about schedules/budgets/wrangling cast and crew/time restrictions etc. Just take his time, write up the story he wanted till he was happy with it and then just hand it over when it was done.
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n4 posted:Did anyone else notice the continuity error where the Doctor was dirty af when Bill leaves but when he regains consciousness he's suddenly clean ? We never see the Doctor pushing a broom, so the TARDIS must have some way of tidying up, right?
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Obviously we'll know who the next Doctor is before the special airs, but when? Is that the sort of thing they'd announce at SDCC in two weeks? Nah, very unlikely. Capaldi was announced on a special live half hour show on BBC One that spun its wheels for 28 minutes before finally revealing him. The best next Doctor reveal was when they revealed Matt Smith. They put up a special 15 minute long Doctor Who Confidential, so they had talking heads with the new producers, Moffat, etc, and then it switches to this young guy, and he's talking about stuff for 5 seconds before the title comes up 'Matt Smith - The Eleventh Doctor'. Super subtly done, and very classy.
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Narsham posted:I really think the best solution is to have CyberMissy appear in a future Cyberman episode, preferably as a sudden reveal. Then she figures out a way to steal another body and we're off to the races. I was just thinking that! The cybermen revived Bill with a giant hole through her vital organs and her brain having been deprived of oxygen for at least 10 minutes, and she was fine, so whatever catastrophic damage left Missy able to chat for a few minutes before death probably isn't enough to prevent the cybermen from salvaging her. CyberMissy would be running that place in a day. She still has a TimeLady brain, the monkey brains have no hope of overwriting her will. They will probably won't even try, they will see her superiority and declare her Cyber Controller on the spot.
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Well, it's happening again. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3825684
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Slowpoke! posted:It's annoying that they didn't reveal who the new Doctor was at the end of the episode. Now we are going to find out the way we always find out: from the internet after someone snaps a pic of someone on set. I doubt he will regenerate until the end of the Christmas special anyway. He'll spend a few minutes talking to the first doctor about regenerating and maybe they will go on an adventure together. If not, they will split up, and Doctor Who will have one last adventure before regenerating at the end of the episode. Then we'll see Ed Sheeran bounce around the set or whatever excited to go on his new adventures. Maybe pick up the new companion.
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I was really turned off by last seasons "Oh BTW Clara is the most important person to ever live" reveal and while I love Capaldi, that whole thing nearly drove me away from the show. I'm glad Bill was more of a "keep the doctor on the moral path" kind of companion who also didn't really put up with his crap but was still just a normal person. Overall it was a solid season, I was confused at Watergirls whole thing, but I loved how we got the always welcomed variety of types of episodes. I'm always down for a good Haunted House story which we got. Love the updated Mondas Cybermen, though as someone else said, it would have been nice to see the intern stages, even if it's only for a momentary glimpse. I just realized I never watched this years Xmas episode. I'll I'll do that now.
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This has probably been explained (or more likely, ignored) since it was a while ago: Wasn't there some future-future-future Danny (played by the same actor) that was implied to be a descendant of Danny/Clara? Did that plot line ever be explored or did they just collectively point to a wall and scream HEY LOOK OVER THERE, IGNORE THAT?
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MisterBibs posted:This has probably been explained (or more likely, ignored) since it was a while ago:
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2house2fly posted:Just some descendant of Danny's bloodline I guess. Or history got rewritten. Missy rewrote history by getting Clara and the Doctor together so she could badger the Time Lords to save him on Trenzalore so I like to imagine there are lots of possible futures in flux until the timeline sorts itself out, and mayne Orson was one. Or Danny had a brother or a sister.
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That was what i meant by the first thing i said!
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It's awfully empty in here I flooded the lobby with Pokemon. Outside of a few funny lines, this Xmas special is pretty bad. There's way too much focus on Grant being moonstruck over Lumbar.
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Murderion posted:Having rewatched the first episode a couple of days previously, I have to say Heather coming back was more "unexpected" than an outright rear end-pull. At the end of The Pilot, she touches Heather even though the Doctor and Nardole tell her it's a really bad idea, and it's clear that Bill is a big part of her retaining/rebuilding her human identity. And unlike Clara's, it's on account of her choices and her actions. Not just touching Heather, but making the deal with the Monks and then resisting them. Or, for that matter, choosing to stay with the Doctor to the end which doesn't come. And most of those choices involved not taking the Doctor's advice.
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Narsham posted:And unlike Clara's, it's on account of her choices and her actions. Not just touching Heather, but making the deal with the Monks and then resisting them. Or, for that matter, choosing to stay with the Doctor to the end which doesn't come. And most of those choices involved not taking the Doctor's advice. And one of the only times she was explicitly acting on advice/suggestion of the Doctor resulted in just the worst thing.
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HopperUK posted:She was teasing his ego. It was cute. Especially when you consider she said it in Cyberman singsong voice.
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Senor Tron posted:Especially when you consider she said it in Cyberman singsong voice. Ohhhh, gooooooooood-oh!
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