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BrandorKP posted:Someday sooner than I'd like, it's likely at least one of my parents will need medicaid if they end up needing nursing home care. Good post, thank you
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SocketWrench posted:How does this make any sense what so ever? One of these days, these kind of Hot Takes will do anything except drive people away from the left. ONE DAY!
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evilmiera posted:Funny story: There was a study in Norway a few years back about unisex dorms in the army, for the express purpose of determining how that affected rates of sexual harassment etc and it turns out the mixed groups had WAY lower rates. Seems if you have people interact with the opposite sex on a daily basis and don't segregate them they learn to adjust to that situation and treat their group members more like people they respect and care for, seeing them as, you know, people. All the more reason to loving ban single sex schools. As an alumni of one, take it from be, it's a bad idea in EVERY POSSIBLE WAY.
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SocketWrench posted:Given Trump's history of being jilted and a petty rear end in a top hat, if he keeps dropping and gets kicked out or leaves on the shitties ratings if he'll go into "watch the world burn" mode I have full confidence that Donald Trump is making absolutely no important decisions at this point. You know our current Syria strategy (essentially the Obama strategy)? There have been zero cabinet meetings on that topic at the White House. None. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/01/...ctionfront&_r=0 quote:The Tabqa operation was proposed in mid-March to Lt. Gen. Stephen Townsend, the commander of the American-led task force that is battling the Islamic State, by the top commander of the Syrian Democratic Forces, the combination of Syrian Kurds and Arab fighters who would provide the ground troops for the battle. It was approved without a single White House meeting.
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He obviously wasn't a good guy, so it doesn't count  EDIT: Ha ha ha ha http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gettysburg-confederate-rally-kkk-antifa_us_59592bd8e4b05c37bb7f0ca4 quote:GETTYSBURG, Pa. ― A few hundred armed militia group members, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Ku Klux Klaners, supporters of President Donald Trump, quote:After singing the National Anthem and performing the Pledge of Allegiance, the hundreds of Southern Army enthusiasts ― many of whom wore Trump pins, Avirosb fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Avirosb posted:He obviously wasn't a good guy, so it doesn't count Hahaha what a bunch of idiots.
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Spaced God posted:I dunno if this is legit or Alt White House Staffer levels of masturbatory fanfic (I'm sure I'll be dunked on if it's the latter) but This is pretty obvious stdh.txt, but even so, there's also literally zero chance that Trump actually knows what the gently caress the 25th Amendment is.
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Every time Zuckerberg is mentioned here there's a huge amount of vitriol against him, like he personally killed every single dog that gets posted in this thread or whatever. Like, why do you guys hate him so much? For the record, I think that him running for president would be disastrous on the count of him having no political experience. If he were to run for some other lower office, I could support that, assuming he makes it clear what his political views are and I agree with them. I don't think he's really made his political views known though, so I can't judge him on that. So I just don't understand how people here are so adamant that he'd be the second coming of Trump. I wouldn't support him today, but I could possibly see myself supporting him if the conditions were right, that's all I'm saying. I'm genuinely curious for an explanation other than "lol he's a nerd" and "gently caress Facebook." In a way, I don't really see any issue with having a youngish "tech nerd" in office. I actually think that that might be better for the country, if anything a change of pace. All of our politicians come from basically the same walk of life: wealthy family, lawyer, business school, military, etc. At the end of the day, Zuckerberg is/was a software engineer so I've got to assume that he possesses some level of knowledge. Good software engineers are essentially problem solvers: they know how to break down programs into manageable components, they know how to look for help and how to ask the right questions, and if their ego isn't big they know how/when to defer to others for help. I could totally see a president who used to be a former engineer or scientist working in a much better capacity than the useless lawyers our political system is full of right now. I would more easily and readily trust an engineer to surround himself with good advisors than Lawyer #74764. I'm not saying engineers don't make mistakes, but I just have a bias that engineers would listen more. So no, Zuckerberg or Joe Schmoe Engineer wouldn't have military experience, or international trade experience, etc., but I'd be 100% more confident that they could appoint a good cabinet to manage the the fine details.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Every time Zuckerberg is mentioned here there's a huge amount of vitriol against him, like he personally killed every single dog that gets posted in this thread or whatever. Everyone here's jealous he's a billionaire college drop out instead of a regular college drop out.
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He's a schlubby sociopathic computer janitor who made it big, why do you think goons hate him?
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Boris Galerkin posted:Every time Zuckerberg is mentioned here there's a huge amount of vitriol against him, like he personally killed every single dog that gets posted in this thread or whatever. Is this a "source your quotes" situation? The way Trump run his business was a good preview of the way he would run the whole country, here is a preview of what Zucc can do if he applies his morals and methods to, say, justice system: https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-hate-speech-censorship-internal-documents-algorithms 
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Boris Galerkin posted:At the end of the day, Zuckerberg is/was a software engineer so I've got to assume that he possesses some level of knowledge. Good software engineers are essentially problem solvers: they know how to break down programs into manageable components, they know how to look for help and how to ask the right questions, and if their ego isn't big they know how/when to defer to others for help. I'm sorry but there's so much unfounded assumption here. "Software engineers are essentially problem solvers" is as meaningless as "a businessman would run the government like a business". Assuming an engineer is going to be more likely to hire good advisers is just straight up your bias. If you want a good idea of how farcical this can look, check out the few episodes of APB that made it out of the gate.
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Avirosb posted:He obviously wasn't a good guy, so it doesn't count Here's another story of a dumb Trump supporter getting their comeuppance: quote:Jorge Ramirez, an Oceanside minister and immigrant who is in the country illegally, didn’t think he would end up in line for deportation when he encouraged his U.S. citizen daughter to vote for now-President Trump. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-minister-deported-20170630-story.html Gee, it's almost as if all undocumented immigrants are, by Trump's definition, "bad people". 
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I personally dislike his amateurish posturing simply because if billionaires are encouraged by the apparent toothlessness of the government to enforce anti-corruption measures, we stand in the short term to have too many of them watering down the field in 2020 and in the long term turn the presidency into a "billionaires only" club. He's also approaching running for the highest office in the land in the same way people decide to go skydiving for the first time - like it "might be fun."
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Boris Galerkin posted:Like, why do you guys hate him so much? the actual conflict in this country is between the 99 percent and the 1 percent and he's on the wrong side. Mr Interweb posted:Gee, it's almost as if all undocumented immigrants are, by Trump's definition, "bad people". these people are so loving stupid.
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Engineers are horrible politicians. Just look at Tillerson.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Every time Zuckerberg is mentioned here there's a huge amount of vitriol against him, like he personally killed every single dog that gets posted in this thread or whatever. He's a rich white man without political experience, without any record of doing beneficial things for people who are getting hosed by the system, who's running a company that's discriminating against black activists and LGBTQ people on a daily basis. There is absolutely zero reason to expect him to be a good politician.
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:Engineers are horrible politicians. Just look at Tillerson.
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botany posted:He's a rich white man without political experience, without any record of doing beneficial things for people who are getting hosed by the system, who's running a company that's discriminating against black activists and LGBTQ people on a daily basis. There is absolutely zero reason to expect him to be a good politician. Lest we forget that he also combines a complete disregard for personal privacy protections (maybe occasionally paying lipservice to it when it's good for his bottom line) with the ability to have access to an unprecedented and frankly terrifying amount of personal information. He'll run because Trump, for better or worse, opened up the way for businessmen to become president. We'll see some rich white rear end in a top hat with zero public sector experience running, and probably doing quite well, in every election from here on out.
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Drone posted:Lest we forget that he also combines a complete disregard for personal privacy protections (maybe occasionally paying lipservice to it when it's good for his bottom line) with the ability to have access to an unprecedented and frankly terrifying amount of personal information. Oh yeah absolutely. I always feel like kind of a luddite for not having a facebook account but honestly gently caress that poo poo. In other news: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/881830110114009089 Please don't.
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Boris Galerkin posted:I could totally see a president who used to be a former engineer or scientist working in a much better capacity than the useless lawyers our political system is full of right now. I would more easily and readily trust an engineer to surround himself with good advisors than Lawyer #74764. I'm not saying engineers don't make mistakes, but I just have a bias that engineers would listen more. So no, Zuckerberg or Joe Schmoe Engineer wouldn't have military experience, or international trade experience, etc., but I'd be 100% more confident that they could appoint a good cabinet to manage the the fine details. Yeah okay so you're an engineer and you've been one for less than 5 years, got it
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botany posted:Oh yeah absolutely. I always feel like kind of a luddite for not having a facebook account but honestly gently caress that poo poo. oh god get angry for some anger tweets after macron and merkel laugh at him.
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At least he's bringing peace to the middle East. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/881834692282109953
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So how do you feel about embracing communism now? Just need to bring down the bourgoise.
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Medullah posted:At least he's bringing peace to the middle East. Everyone knows that peace in the Middle East is super easy if you just talk with one king in one country.
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botany posted:Oh yeah absolutely. I always feel like kind of a luddite for not having a facebook account but honestly gently caress that poo poo. Hope Merkel breaks his nose with her fist.
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:Engineers are horrible politicians. Just look at Tillerson. A lot of European politicians are engineers, as much if not more than the ones who are lawyers or political scientists in certain countries in fact. Of course they also have actual experience, unlike Zuckerberg... AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:I could totally see a president who used to be a former engineer or scientist working in a much better capacity than the useless lawyers our political system is full of right now. I would more easily and readily trust an engineer to surround himself with good advisors than Lawyer #74764. I'm not saying engineers don't make mistakes, but I just have a bias that engineers would listen more. So no, Zuckerberg or Joe Schmoe Engineer wouldn't have military experience, or international trade experience, etc., but I'd be 100% more confident that they could appoint a good cabinet to manage the the fine details. Replace 'engineer' with 'businessman' in your post and compare your thesis to the shitshow that's currently happening. Theoretically, C-grade businessmen spend most of their time finding top talent to fill out directorships, laying out strategic goals and dealing with other high-level individuals in government and industry around the world. So, you'd be forgiven for thinking that someone who was good at running a very big and very complex enterprise like, say, ExxonMobil or Trump Industries, would be fan-loving-tastic at figuring out what to do and then building teams to get poo poo done. Alas, it's not the case. Successful politicians are people who know how government works and how to solve the unique internal problems that governments create. People who know who to go and talk to and how to get that person on board. People who know which battles to fight and which to let go. People who understand that great ideas are secondary to workable ideas. Often those people are lawyers because working in government is ultimately all about working with laws. Making them, amending them, repealing them. If you don't understand the language, you can't speak to the natives.
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Medullah posted:At least he's bringing peace to the middle East. 
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Boris Galerkin posted:Every time Zuckerberg is mentioned here there's a huge amount of vitriol against him, like he personally killed every single dog that gets posted in this thread or whatever. There was an entire movie made about what an unlikable prick Zuckerberg is. That's a good start to why people aren't fans of him and aren't enthused by him launching a political career.
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:Engineers are horrible politicians. Just look at Tillerson. Herbert Hoover
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AceOfFlames posted:A lot of European politicians are engineers, as much if not more than the ones who are lawyers or political scientists in certain countries in fact. I don't care if a politician has any experience in their non-political line of work, I care what their politics are, who they surround themselves with, wether they have political experience, how they are going to achieve their goals and so on. Nobody here would knock a candidate they're supporting otherwise based on this work experience bullshit. It has nothing to do with my point, but in case it comes up, I'm not supporting Zuckerberg, I don't like Facebook particularly.
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dont even fink about it posted:I have full confidence that Donald Trump is making absolutely no important decisions at this point. You know our current Syria strategy (essentially the Obama strategy)? There have been zero cabinet meetings on that topic at the White House. None. You know, if there's one thing that we can get out of this Administration it would be capturing the opposite of that famous photo of LBJ listening to reports on Vietnam...you know, the one where he's basically breaking down and crying at the reality of it? With trump it'd probably be him nodding off into space as Mattis and various DoD and Intel staff go over casualty projections for whatever is going on in Syria.
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donny dumbass is awake https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/881847676232503297
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Medullah posted:At least he's bringing peace to the middle East. "Interesting things are happening!" is a statement I can certainly agree with
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