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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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Spacebump posted:Cuban said that the Mavs would be willing to take on salaries in a trade. In my perfect fictional offseason they get Love out of the Melo trade. It won't happen but a man can dream. If the Cavs make a trade that moves Love instead of getting them a fourth star somehow they're fools. None of the 5 or so guys who move the needle on golden state are available (several of them play for golden state). I'd say the only exchanges that give them more wins on the Warriors without a fourth star are Gobert, Davis, Cousins, Jordan (better inside would be huge, none are available) or a straight improvement at the 2 with a guy who makes Curry unhideable. Butler would have done it, Harden or perhaps Hayward even. Not available though unless what we've heard about Hayward's preferences is wrong. George would have been a good fit but only if you keep Love too. Edit nah Hayward wouldn't cut it. It has to be a defensive improvement on Thompson or a guy who forces to get beat up or have his ankles mounted on Irving's wall every day without being a liability on D and he's not able to guard Curry or Klay effectively tivrlh DeimosRising fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Jul 3, 2017 16:38
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Yeah the Cavs have no moves to make really. Moving Love at this point would be stupid.
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Jul 3, 2017 16:40
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Also why would the Cavs move love to a (well, kind of) direct competitor
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Jul 3, 2017 16:41
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Also why would the Cavs move love to a (well, kind of) direct competitor Why would the Cavs fire their very good GM and try to run Lebron off of the team
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Jul 3, 2017 16:43
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As Danny is celebrating the signing of Aaron Harrison, I'm going to give him a stick of dynamite in the shape of a cigar.
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Jul 3, 2017 16:44
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vaginal facsimile posted:As Danny is celebrating the signing of Aaron Harrison, I'm going to give him a stick of dynamite in the shape of a cigar. Hey uh, he, *shuffles papers* he's a perfect fit and is what we've needed all along. I'm gonna sock Danny in the shoulder just for being boring as hell.
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Jul 3, 2017 16:45
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Ya, I don't get all the talk of Love to Boston, those two teams shouldn't really want to trade with each other.
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Jul 3, 2017 16:45
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Michael Corleone posted:Ya, I don't get all the talk of Love to Boston, those two teams shouldn't really want to trade with each other. A collegial union to stop the Golden Horde may be necessary. Horford/Love/Lebron/Irving/Thomas with something like Thompson/Crowder/Korver/Bradley/Smart off the bench would make like 30 3s a game
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Jul 3, 2017 16:51
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881902728804487169
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Jul 3, 2017 16:51
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Just make Lebron GM, or defacto GM. Yes, we should combine teams with Boston, they can have anyone they want back after this season, and their reward would be possibly the first 3 picks in the draft. Michael Corleone fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Jul 3, 2017 16:55
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Hey Knicks & Cavs fans...if u could trade owners...who says no?
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Jul 3, 2017 16:56
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Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson, and Felder matches salaries for Carmelo, provides about 5 mil in salary relief to the Knicks now, a further 10 million in 2018, with a Shumpert option for 11 mil for 18-19. It sends the Cavs into the 9th circle of salary cap hell though. The Rockets could maybe get it done with Anderson, their human trade exceptions, and a protected future first (2019?), but the thought of having geezers Anderson and Noah make 38% of the cap is so nasty. e: dolan's a horrible dumbass, but at least he's not pinching pennies during LeBron James' contract year Bush Did Outer Heaven fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Jul 3, 2017 16:56
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Hey Knicks & Cavs fans...if u could trade owners...who says no? the cavs? its a no brainer, dude.
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Jul 3, 2017 16:57
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Intruder posted:LAC lost CP3 because of Austin Rivers lmbo *Doc to Austin* "It's your team now, Son. I want you to know we're square in the game of life now."
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Jul 3, 2017 16:58
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Paul Zuvella posted:the cavs? its a no brainer, dude.
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Jul 3, 2017 16:58
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Michael Corleone posted:Just make Lebron GM, or defacto GM. he's been the default gm for the past 3 years anyway Punkin Spunkin posted:Gilbert seems like his own disaster these days & has had his share of comic sans ignominy, plus hey Dolan was a positive influence in recent Knicks events right? He was the one who didn't like Phil openly shopping and disrespecting KP? dolan will just find another dud gm or if he's good he'll find a way to make him quit like donnie walsh
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Jul 3, 2017 17:00
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Tae posted:Spoelstra and Pat Riley are apparently on a plane to meet Dion waiters. That's dedication. Pat Riley is really enamoured with Dion, it's like a movie
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Jul 3, 2017 17:00
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Bush Did Outer Heaven posted:Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson, and Felder matches salaries for Carmelo, provides about 5 mil in salary relief to the Knicks now, a further 10 million in 2018, with a Shumpert option for 11 mil for 18-19. It sends the Cavs into the 9th circle of salary cap hell though. We could also send them $5 million in cash.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:00
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Does Gilbert top Dolan if he manages to make LeBron flee twice, or is the one ring and endless monotony of Cursed knicks Hell enough that he never will?
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Jul 3, 2017 17:03
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gilbert at least managed to restrain himself long enough to win a championship
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Jul 3, 2017 17:06
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I think Lebron was probably leaving anyway and I think him and Gilbert are in the same page. That team was only going to decay and I don't think LeBron wants to be part of a rebuild.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:07
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Shear Modulus posted:gilbert at least managed to restrain himself long enough to win a championship TBF if the Knicks had LeBron they probably would have won a championship.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:10
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who says no http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yan29f4w Im mad that the trade machine doesn't have cash considerations as an option
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Jul 3, 2017 17:10
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Lockback posted:I think Lebron was probably leaving anyway and I think him and Gilbert are in the same page. That team was only going to decay and I don't think LeBron wants to be part of a rebuild. He should retire for 2 years, let them retool and come back with fresh legs. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, what were the salary cap implications of Jordan's retirement?
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Jul 3, 2017 17:12
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Tae posted:Spoelstra and Pat Riley are apparently on a plane to meet Dion waiters. That's dedication. If Porter is matched, the Washington is tapped out and I expect the Kings to throw a big two year deal at anyone who can play SF
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Jul 3, 2017 17:23
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DeimosRising posted:If the Cavs make a trade that moves Love instead of getting them a fourth star somehow they're fools. None of the 5 or so guys who move the needle on golden state are available (several of them play for golden state). I'd say the only exchanges that give them more wins on the Warriors without a fourth star are Gobert, Davis, Cousins, Jordan (better inside would be huge, none are available) or a straight improvement at the 2 with a guy who makes Curry unhideable. Butler would have done it, Harden or perhaps Hayward even. Not available though unless what we've heard about Hayward's preferences is wrong. George would have been a good fit but only if you keep Love too. Let's spice up the deal by throwing in top 10 2017 rookie, Yogi.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:28
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DeimosRising posted:Edit nah Hayward wouldn't cut it. It has to be a defensive improvement on Thompson or a guy who forces to get beat up or have his ankles mounted on Irving's wall every day without being a liability on D and he's not able to guard Curry or Klay effectively tivrlh Do you think Hayward is not a good defender? Cause he definitely would be a defensive improvement
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Jul 3, 2017 17:31
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https://twitter.com/JeffZillgitt/status/881909790619967489 Just a reminder that Quicken Loans is under Federal investigation and Gilbert's casino has been losing tens of millions of $$$ a month for more than a year.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:35
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Gilbert seems like his own disaster these days & has had his share of comic sans ignominy, plus hey Dolan was a positive influence in recent Knicks events right? He was the one who didn't like Phil openly shopping and disrespecting KP? Dolan is the one who gave Melo an absurd amount of power in this dumb organization and necessitated the whole situation. He doesn't get credit for giving a GM a hamstrung, job, saying he'll be a hands off leader (which he finally realized he ought to do after he's spent two decades loving them up every time he interfered), then going back on his word when the GM fails to succeed at an impossible task. Considering how much Melo disliked the Porzingis pick I kinda don't think Dolan would've even done it without Jackson there to trust the scouts. There's also the report saying Carmelo "chewed out" Porzingis after Kristaps made public statements saying he liked playing the triangle and thought it would work better once the team got more familiar with it, hey rookie you gently caress choose sides between me or the GM. Melo is team cancer and Dolan feeds him. Gilbert managed to get LeBron back after chasing him off, and the Cavs have won a championship despite his incompetence, so he's probably better there. That being said, I would not trade them because Dolan is 62 and Gilbert is 55, and Dolan was an alcoholic for at least 20 years, so Dolan seems more likely to die first.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:41
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881926123248070657
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Jul 3, 2017 18:23
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I'd rather give hill 30 mil for one year than give rondo the vet min
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Jul 3, 2017 18:33
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Would the Spurs have any chance of bringing George Hill home? Or was that door closed when they re-signed Patty Mills?
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Jul 3, 2017 19:20
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Doltos posted:who says no http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yan29f4w
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Jul 3, 2017 19:29
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Shear Modulus posted:gilbert at least managed to restrain himself long enough to win a championship Strong move by Gilbert to make sure that arguably the best player of all time was born close to the his team
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Jul 3, 2017 19:29
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Bush Did Outer Heaven posted:The Rockets could maybe get it done with Anderson, their human trade exceptions, and a protected future first (2019?), but the thought of having geezers Anderson and Noah make 38% of the cap is so nasty.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:35
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RASHIBA WALLACE posted:Would the Spurs have any chance of bringing George Hill home? Or was that door closed when they re-signed Patty Mills? The latter imho unless there's a surprise trade. https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881940483429326852
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Jul 3, 2017 19:37
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Diva Cupcake posted:The Knicks supposedly have no interest in Ryan Anderson for Melo and I'm not sure the Rockets have the contracts to make it work otherwise. Getting Shump and JR back would be the most Knicksiest thing I can imagine. It would have to be like Ariza and Gordon and all their non guaranteed guys. The thought of that trade makes my stomach turn http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=s6flq5r
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Jul 3, 2017 19:49
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Redgrendel2001 posted:The latter imho unless there's a surprise trade. Ah nuts
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Jul 3, 2017 19:55
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Cool Buff Man posted:Why would the Cavs fire their very good GM and try to run Lebron off of the team Dan Gilbert is just trying to put the pieces in place to be able to draft LeBron James Jr in a few years. Lightning strikes twice!
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Space Camp fuckup posted:Ah nuts Another avatar bites the dust. drat.
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