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Well, he's not wrong. https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/881834692282109953
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I half assume "we begin gasing shiites tomorrow" is the next tweet.
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Jul 3, 2017 12:34
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Can't let Turkey have all the fun.
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Jul 3, 2017 12:52
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El Disco posted:Well, he's not wrong. the king probaly fed him some poo poo about how invading/wiping out qatar and a spiraling middle east super war would be a good thing. and trump agreed.
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Jul 3, 2017 12:58
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Here's a small-ish album of pictures supposedly from Mosul, maybe people here will find them interesting. http://imgur.com/gallery/rxdus
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Jul 3, 2017 13:24
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hey middle east thread bros i just found this anonymously story that gaddhafi is handing out viagra so his army can go golden horde on wherever any day now. let's get real fired up for war and then stop talking about it when it stops being fun
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Jul 3, 2017 14:08
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Razputeen posted:hey middle east thread bros i just found this anonymously story that gaddhafi is handing out viagra so his army can go golden horde on wherever any day now. let's get real fired up for war and then stop talking about it when it stops being fun Nobody likes you, or enjoys your posting dude.
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lollontee posted:Nobody likes you, or enjoys your posting dude. *hopping from war to war holding up a foam We're #1 finger and then fleeing when each stops being cool like a clowny beer-gutted angel of death* tezzor, i know my opinion matters deeply to you, so (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jul 3, 2017 14:27
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Trogdos! posted:Here's a small-ish album of pictures supposedly from Mosul, maybe people here will find them interesting.  Some of these are pretty good though.
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Jul 3, 2017 14:36
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Razputeen posted:hey middle east thread bros i just found this anonymously story that gaddhafi is handing out viagra so his army can go golden horde on wherever any day now. let's get real fired up for war and then stop talking about it when it stops being fun The prequels aren't that bad.
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Jul 3, 2017 14:52
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El Disco posted:Well, he's not wrong. So a 4th of July intervention in Qatar, while Americans are busy barbecuing and lighting fireworks?
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Jul 3, 2017 15:31
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Hard-hitting investigative reporter Alex Jones interviews Seymour Hersh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fKasEeOgE0
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Jul 3, 2017 16:24
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Ghost of Babyhead posted:Hard-hitting investigative reporter Alex Jones interviews Seymour Hersh: Wow. I've got to say I respect Hersh's work a lot, though I haven't particularly trusted him lately. But this, drat.
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Jul 3, 2017 16:38
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Ghost of Babyhead posted:Hard-hitting investigative reporter Alex Jones interviews Seymour Hersh: Man, this is just tragic. I thought Alex Jones had more credibility than that.
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Jul 3, 2017 16:43
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Razputeen posted:*hopping from war to war holding up a foam We're #1 finger and then fleeing when each stops being cool like a clowny beer-gutted angel of death* tezzor, i know my opinion matters deeply to you, so I'm Paul Wolfowitz irl, ama.
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Jul 3, 2017 16:47
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Count Roland posted:So a 4th of July intervention in Qatar, while Americans are busy barbecuing and lighting fireworks? I'm expecting them to stick with the current "sorta" blockade for the time being. Upping it to a "real" blockade is a literal act of war and I don't think the Saudis are ready to go that far quite yet.
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El Disco posted:I'm expecting them to stick with the current "sorta" blockade for the time being. Upping it to a "real" blockade is a literal act of war and I don't think the Saudis are ready to go that far quite yet. I'm inclined to agree with you, its just that about every action makes KSA look terrible. Issuing this 10 day ultimatum, and then a 2 day extension, only for it to be ignored, is a blow to credibility, is it not? I feel like KSA has to take *some* visible action to not look dumb, but I have no idea what this could be.
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Jul 3, 2017 18:09
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Count Roland posted:I'm inclined to agree with you, its just that about every action makes KSA look terrible. Issuing this 10 day ultimatum, and then a 2 day extension, only for it to be ignored, is a blow to credibility, is it not? I feel like KSA has to take *some* visible action to not look dumb, but I have no idea what this could be. They don't, either.
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Jul 3, 2017 18:13
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if theres one hard rule you should apply to any arab ruler it's that never expect their decisions to make any real sense or understanding of how it benefits anything beyond their personal bottom line and personal vendettas.
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Al-Saqr posted:if theres one hard rule you should apply to any arab ruler it's that never expect their decisions to make any real sense or understanding of how it benefits anything beyond their personal bottom line and personal vendettas. Yeah, well, that's my worry, that somebody starts thinking guns are the way to do it.
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Jul 3, 2017 18:19
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SDF have been squeezing Raqqa and the surrounding areas pretty hard: https://twitter.com/CivilWarMap/status/881781296430796800 quote:Syrian Democratic Forces captured Ratlah village from Islamic State - southeast of Raqqa quote:remudapudding:
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Jul 3, 2017 19:16
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Jul 3, 2017 19:42
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so isis is thoroighly dead at this point. its just remnant running around ptactically. maybe parts of the established isis order remain but its just an execution at this point
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Blut posted:I wonder how long Raqqa will last. 2 weeks? 4 weeks max? It'll be very interesting to see where the SDF aims for after that. Lmao. Two months if we're lucky. Fighting for the city will last well into autumn and probably the winter too.
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LeoMarr posted:so isis is thoroighly dead at this point. its just remnant running around ptactically. maybe parts of the established isis order remain but its just an execution at this point hopefully. i am sure some other monster will rise from the ashes but i am pretty sure its dead for now, though i suspect we will see a few more terror attacks in the wests as they hit desperation/gently caress you mode. also is Baghdadi dead? i heard some reports that the russians killed him but nothing more.
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Blut posted:I wonder how long Raqqa will last. 2 weeks? 4 weeks max? It'll be very interesting to see where the SDF aims for after that. You're really lowballing the numbers here. A reminder that the battle for Tabqa, an unprepared and relatively badly defended city with less than half the population and size of Raqqa took two and a half months to complete. This siege is gonna go on for much longer than a month, I'm afraid. E: https://twitter.com/iraqi_day/status/881895546952314880 The old city in Mosul is a handful of days and a few hundred meters away from being completely recaptured (24 more hours according to the federal police chief), aside from whatever elements are keeping a low profile elsewhere in the city. I expect the ISF will finally turn their attention to the Kirkuk pocket once this wraps up. Dapper_Swindler posted:also is Baghdadi dead? i heard some reports that the russians killed him but nothing more. It seems somewhat likely at this point that a Russian airstrike did kill him sometime last month, but we'll also probably never get any real confirmation. But for what it's worth, some IS preacher named Abu Qutaiba was said to have confirmed his death during a prayer last friday- and today he has reportedly been burned alive for sedition, so. . . Bohemian Nights fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:hopefully. i am sure some other monster will rise from the ashes but i am pretty sure its dead for now, though i suspect we will see a few more terror attacks in the wests as they hit desperation/gently caress you mode. um yeah due its xalled shiite militias vs sunni militias its already happening. the next sectarian conflict is already happening. Trump took Iraw off the child soldier list... but its bullshit. over 50% of militiamen are under 18. they WANT to fight. its nasty. but this is a slow grind tbrough people that have no choice but to die. der exzor is center isis territory it will taje months to even get near it.
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Ghost of Babyhead posted:Hard-hitting investigative reporter Alex Jones interviews Seymour Hersh: I can't stop laughing.
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Bohemian Nights posted:
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LeoMarr posted:um yeah due its xalled shiite militias vs sunni militias This post reads like someone trying to scramble their post to prevent the Illuminati from textmining their plans.
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Man what a bombshell. "Sy Hersh Exposes the Obama-ISIS Alliance"
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Brett McGurk posted a series of tweets with photos, with a focus on IDPs/refugees and the restoration of normalcy. This kinda gives an overview of how things are currently going, and some of the plans for the post-ISIS future: https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/881826580594659328 quote:In #Syria last week to asses the #Raqqa campaign and post-#ISIS phase, stabilization, support for IDPs. Some photos to follow. 1/10 https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/881826885361119232 quote:Abdullah Al Erian, Deputy Chair of Raqqa Civilian Council, organizing US and UN-supported response north of #Raqqa in #AinIssa. 2/10 https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/881827186659004416 quote:On visit to #Syria in May (photo left) IDPs had nowhere to go. Now, aid flowing and camps available for Syrians fleeing #ISIS (right). 3/10 https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/881827428766806018 quote:Near #AinIssa, addressed nearly 200 eager recruits from the four districts of #Raqqa training to hold their home areas after #ISIS. 4/10 https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/881828537724018688 quote:Traveled next to #Tabqa and #TabqaDam, liberated only six weeks ago; access routes just last week cleared of #ISIS booby traps & IEDs. 5/10 https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/881829012263383044 quote:#Tabqa now in earliest phases of recovery with markets opening & first aid deliveries arriving days ago after roads were cleared. 6/10 https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/881829541940998145 quote:Nearby #Tabqa Dam was a fortress for #ISIS foreign fighters; used for assassinations, planning terror abroad, now secure & operating. 7/10 https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/881830029151416320 quote:Inside the dam #ISIS three-year presence and attempts to sabotage its operations visible everywhere. Syrian engineers back at work. 8/10 https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/881830667583193088 quote:Significant work ahead in #Tabqa from more humanitarian aid to rubble removal to arrival of intn'l NGOs now that routes are clear. 9/10 https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/881830982013394944 quote:Our @coalition will meet in DC July 14 to coordinate enhanced support for these areas with focus on their immediate stabilization needs. /10
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This bad editorializing isn't helpful. They aren't idiots to do that. They are making the enemy expend resources to fix a problem that wouldn't otherwise be there. They aren't children, they leave areas extensively booby trapped to deny access and easy use to the enemy. It reminds me of your "SDF really likes pincer attacks" trope you went on and on about. It's like the most basic of strategies and has been since pre-history most likely.
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Coldwar timewarp posted:This bad editorializing isn't helpful. They aren't idiots to do that. They are making the enemy expend resources to fix a problem that wouldn't otherwise be there. They aren't children, they leave areas extensively booby trapped to deny access and easy use to the enemy. Yeah, 'ISIS seems really bad at defending against encirclement' would be the better take.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:hopefully. i am sure some other monster will rise from the ashes but i am pretty sure its dead for now, though i suspect we will see a few more terror attacks in the wests as they hit desperation/gently caress you mode. the russians have claimed that they killed Baghdadi several times, so maybe
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Coldwar timewarp posted:This bad editorializing isn't helpful. They aren't idiots to do that. They are making the enemy expend resources to fix a problem that wouldn't otherwise be there. They aren't children, they leave areas extensively booby trapped to deny access and easy use to the enemy. It made sense when they were fighting ill-equipped rebel forces (at least in the medium term), but when the US is able to clear bombs and repair things in such a short period, is it still such a good policy? It seems like PR suicide.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Yeah, 'ISIS seems really bad at defending against encirclement' would be the better take. With US airpower and surveillance, I don't think they have the operational mobility to do it. Victory disease stopped them from doing the logical thing, defend urban strongholds and use civilians as a shield. That has been their most effective strategy, but it isn't a winning one. They were never going to win once the US decided to forcefully oppose them, it was a matter of time.
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Discendo Vox posted:It made sense when they were fighting ill-equipped rebel forces (at least in the medium term), but when the US is able to clear bombs and repair things in such a short period, is it still such a good policy? It seems like PR suicide. I don't think IS will suffer from bad PR. but those set of posts showed that it took time and effort to clear those areas and make them usable. That time likely led to a delay of attacks on the neighboring villages on the south of the Euphrates on the way to Raqqa. That is a success in some way. When your enemy has effectively unlimited resources, making them pay with time and give you more time to prepare is the best victory you are going to get. They were never going to get power from that dam again, for example, why not wreck it? The coalition was never going to drown Raqqa,, why not make them fix it? It all seems very logical to me, which is why I think infantilising them makes no sense. The coalition is razing Raqqa, that "bad PR" doesn't stop the bombs, nor will it stop the advance.
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