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Reality Winner posted:Is government working today or is everyone getting ready to get shirfaced tomorrow people are working. 2 mondays in one week  this indignity would never happen under ed ball
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Reality Winner posted:Is government working today or is everyone getting ready to get shirfaced tomorrow wiat are we supposed to wait until tomorrow???
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Tesseraction posted:Great Ormond Street Hospital, the people who are saying 'no' are doing so because the treatment in the US is to reduce the severity of the symptoms for children who are expected to survive. This kid is already brain dead and losing health hourly. As doctors they have a moral obligation to not provide false hope - they have merely stated that the child's case is terminal, they appreciate the feelings of the parents but have stated that the treatment in the US will not help him, and will not allow him to live a day longer. I mean, they've also said he's going to die at the hospital instead of at home (or on a pointless flight to America) so there are some issues here.
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HEY NONG MAN posted:I just realized my wife's mom is Canadian. I think we have our ticket out. do it before the economy crashes, imo
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Relevant Tangent posted:I mean, they've also said he's going to die at the hospital instead of at home (or on a pointless flight to America) so there are some issues here. I think they also said they want to disconnect life support though they walked it back a little. I don't see the harm in letting the parents try.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/881941502875881473 like the expansion or all of it
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Relevant Tangent posted:Story in the link said he had. Kids still dead, it's just a question of how long and how much it'll cost. The UK has death panels though, so. Which story? Neither the USA Today article linked earlier, nor the CNN article mentioned, seem to say one way or the other, that I could see.
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thrawn527 posted:Which story? Neither the USA Today article linked earlier, nor the CNN article mentioned, seem to say one way or the other, that I could see. The best article (as usual) I've read on it is the NYTimes.
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Squizzle posted:radical meme tbf God does wants the boy for His purposes HMG is just acting appropriately
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Vladimir Putin posted:Why don't they let the parents decide? They have the money and can pay for it. What's the harm? Presumably the doctors have already expressed their opinion to the parents. Because it's an expensive operation that will not improve the child's quality of life. His lungs have failed, his liver, kidney and heart have all rotted beyond feasibility and the doctor who they want to take him to be treated by has already said his operation won't have any effect on the destruction of the child's brain. The doctors have stated this, every consultant they've spoken to has said this. The law states that if the doctors say one thing and the parents refuse, it is the duty of the state to determine what is in the best interests of the child, not of the parents. The child is living in constant agony and the High Court see no benefit to anyone in parading a corpse across the ocean to perform a surgery that won't do anything.
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Vladimir Putin posted:I think they also said they want to disconnect life support though they walked it back a little. I don't see the harm in letting the parents try. The kid is already dead
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Tesseraction posted:Because it's an expensive operation that will not improve the child's quality of life. His lungs have failed, his liver, kidney and heart have all rotted beyond feasibility and the doctor who they want to take him to be treated by has already said his operation won't have any effect on the destruction of the child's brain. The doctors have stated this, every consultant they've spoken to has said this. The law states that if the doctors say one thing and the parents refuse, it is the duty of the state to determine what is in the best interests of the child, not of the parents. The child is living in constant agony and the High Court see no benefit to anyone in parading a corpse across the ocean to perform a surgery that won't do anything. But imagine all the value add to the US Healthcare economy? -VP presumably
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Vladimir Putin posted:I think they also said they want to disconnect life support though they walked it back a little. I don't see the harm in letting the parents try. The harm is that their betters have made a decision and who are they to question? Citizens vs subjects.
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Thom and the Heads posted:The kid is already dead If he's dead and the parents pay then just let them try. I can't tell but it doesn't look like they are religious looneys or anything or want to make a political point. They just seem like two parents who live their kid. What's the harm here?
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Vladimir Putin posted:The best article (as usual) I've read on it is the NYTimes. Do you have a link? Because this article, posted 30 minutes ago doesn't say whether he's been accepted into anything either. Just that the parents have raised money for the treatment. But not if anyone in the US has agreed to treat him. I'm not trying to post a "gotcha", I actually want to know if anyone has even accepted this kid.
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Tesseraction posted:Because it's an expensive operation that will not improve the child's quality of life. His lungs have failed, his liver, kidney and heart have all rotted beyond feasibility and the doctor who they want to take him to be treated by has already said his operation won't have any effect on the destruction of the child's brain. The doctors have stated this, every consultant they've spoken to has said this. The law states that if the doctors say one thing and the parents refuse, it is the duty of the state to determine what is in the best interests of the child, not of the parents. The child is living in constant agony and the High Court see no benefit to anyone in parading a corpse across the ocean to perform a surgery that won't do anything. hey there this is AMERICA buddy! we can rebuild him! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoLs0V8T5AA
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Tesseraction posted:Because it's an expensive operation that will not improve the child's quality of life. His lungs have failed, his liver, kidney and heart have all rotted beyond feasibility and the doctor who they want to take him to be treated by has already said his operation won't have any effect on the destruction of the child's brain. The doctors have stated this, every consultant they've spoken to has said this. The law states that if the doctors say one thing and the parents refuse, it is the duty of the state to determine what is in the best interests of the child, not of the parents. The child is living in constant agony and the High Court see no benefit to anyone in parading a corpse across the ocean to perform a surgery that won't do anything. free market b*tch
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Relevant Tangent posted:The harm is that their betters have made a decision and who are they to question? Citizens vs subjects. The idea that parents know better than doctors is the reason we are having outbreaks of measles because poo poo idiot parents won't vaccinate their children
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Jazerus posted:bad....dog?? No bad dogs, only bad owners.
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Venom Snake posted:The idea that parents know better than doctors is the reason we are having outbreaks of measles because poo poo idiot parents won't vaccinate their children Excuse me, parenting free range is accepted by many home schooling communities.
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Vladimir Putin posted:If he's dead and the parents pay then just let them try. I can't tell but it doesn't look like they are religious looneys or anything or want to make a political point. They just seem like two parents who live their kid. What's the harm here? quote:The European court ruled that the British courts had taken under consideration the views of Charlie’s parents and of medical experts, and had concluded that “it was most likely Charlie was being exposed to continued pain, suffering and distress, and that undergoing experimental treatment with no prospects of success would offer no benefit, and continue to cause him significant harm.” i mean sure by all means spend millions of morons money to play badminton with a suffering mostly dead baby for a few more weeks - *extremely financierishly voice*
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thrawn527 posted:Do you have a link? Because this article, posted 30 minutes ago doesn't say whether he's been accepted into anything either. Just that the parents have raised money for the treatment. But not if anyone in the US has agreed to treat him. The hospital who are currently keeping him alive have an FAQ on the subject: http://www.gosh.nhs.uk/frequently-asked-questions-about-charlie-gard-court-case Key notes: quote:What is his condition? Note the underlined.
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Dr Cheeto posted:I believe very strongly in the rights of the parents to take their brain-dead meat puppet to whatever doctor they want I actually do. But as much as I hate the whole "it's a distraction! Don't pay attention to the pee babby predisent's dementia addled rants" shtick, this is 100% a distraction for real. Donny doesn't care about anything except money and Ivanka's vagina.
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Tesseraction posted:The hospital who are currently keeping him alive have an FAQ on the subject: http://www.gosh.nhs.uk/frequently-asked-questions-about-charlie-gard-court-case Ok, so someone is offering to accept him, while also saying that it won't help. Thanks.
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thrawn527 posted:Ok, so someone is offering to accept him, while also saying that it won't help. Thanks. As the Hypodermic Oath says, "First, hand over the Benjamins."
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thrawn527 posted:Ok, so someone is offering to accept him, while also saying that it won't help. Thanks. I guess they are doing for the money? Yeah that kind of seems weird. Like if the U.K. team made their decision based on ethics and the US team also did the same then WTF.
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Venom Snake posted:The idea that parents know better than doctors is the reason we are having outbreaks of measles because poo poo idiot parents won't vaccinate their children listen pal I played Oregon Trail and those were real free men upon the land unlike you LIEberal pansies and *dies of dysentery*
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