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Senor P. posted:Glass, to my knowledge, is not chemically nasty. (Although you could conceivably use etchants/acids for cleaning it afterwards as well as other chemicals for adding colors...) welcome to the beautiful PNW
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:lovely aspects of Portland's housing crisis seem to stem from a lack of infrastructure that supports sustainable development. When you've got premiere apartments/condos being built with little or no attention paid to traffic, parking congestion, or impact on communities This sounds like near my office, by all the hundreds of new units being put up around Vancouver and Williams streets, between Shaver and Alberta, and I'm morbidly curious to see what it'll look like in a few years, once they've put the finishing touches on the new buildings while having done absolutely nothing to improve traffic management. Between a couple of single lane streets, the 405 ramps, and a few hundred new cars and bicycles per hour, it's going to be a spectacular shitshow.
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Jul 3, 2017 23:23
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Senor P. posted:Well...... to start with how about Seattle and surrounding area doubles or triples the tax paid on property owned by non-U.S. citizens? First, a vacancy tax is much more fair and far less racist. Second, funding government doesn't work like that. Unsexy programs need money also.
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Jul 3, 2017 23:33
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Thaddius the Large posted:This sounds like near my office, by all the hundreds of new units being put up around Vancouver and Williams streets, between Shaver and Alberta, and I'm morbidly curious to see what it'll look like in a few years, once they've put the finishing touches on the new buildings while having done absolutely nothing to improve traffic management. Between a couple of single lane streets, the 405 ramps, and a few hundred new cars and bicycles per hour, it's going to be a spectacular shitshow. here's a sneak peek of what to expect: division times five
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Jul 3, 2017 23:35
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"develop interstate, a main thoroughfare with existing MAX access, decent bus transit coverage, and plenty of vacant lots and abandoned buildings that nobody will miss? maybe in a few years"
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Jul 3, 2017 23:37
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Peachfart posted:First, a vacancy tax is much more fair and far less racist. As for taxing the non-citizens... Why should citizens of any outside nation be able to own land and displace the local populace? Senor P. fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Jul 3, 2017 23:49
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Senor P. posted:Unsexy programs can keep getting funded like they've been to date. (Gas tax, sales tax and property tax.) Behind the scenes. I personally don't care if the rich rear end in a top hat loving me is from the USA or not. I'm still getting hosed.
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Senor P. posted:Why should citizens of any outside nation be able to own land and displace the local populace? because that's literally the history of America I'm not saying this as justification. There's a very big gap between "let's impose a domestic pseudo-tariff on foreign interests profiting off American livelihood" and "you shouldn't be able to own property if you aren't a citizen." IM DAY DAY IRL fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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Jul 4, 2017 00:08
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Peachfart posted:I personally don't care if the rich rear end in a top hat loving me is from the USA or not. I'm still getting hosed.
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Jul 4, 2017 01:28
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I understand where that sentiment comes from but it's very difficult for me to reconcile that not only are people being hosed by fast and loose development but that property/real estate is being hoovered up as veritable offshore holding accounts with little intention of occupancy, management, or operation. There would likely be widespread support throughout the political spectrum to increase property tax on foreign-owned assets and it'd be a step in the right direction with regard to focusing tax liability on those who (theoretically) could afford it. If Seattle could lower or eliminate mandatory flat taxes on its citizens by replacing them with more progressive (in the tax sense, not political sense) tax measures it could be helpful in offsetting the rising cost of life.
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Jul 4, 2017 02:11
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to be completely honest I've grown so accustomed to the no sales tax in Oregon that I frequently forget how punishing it can be in other states.
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Vancouver's vacancy tax is still pretty new, and I was not able to find another example of such a tax. Has it been tried anywhere else?
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Vacancy tax sounds amazing.
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George posted:Vacancy tax sounds amazing.
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anthonypants posted:It sounds like a way for landlords to claim that they're being unfairly persecuted, and that's why they need to raise rents. What we need is rent control. Landlords don't need an excuse though, as long as demand is higher than supply they'll just keep raising the rent. Rent control would be nice but are there any negative effects? Does it cause ghettos? Prevent development or something? Why isn't it promoted more and/or is there any opposition to he idea? Does mandating a percentage of new developments be low income solve the same problem?
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Why not both!
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Mr. Lobe posted:Why not both!
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I only suggested a vacancy tax because it is the perfect counter to the 'foreign investment' tax, which is an easy out for right-leaning people to try and blame all of our housing issues on 'foreign investors'(read: the dastardly Chinese). A vacancy tax would do much more as it goes after the high-end apartment complexes that are left mostly vacant so as to increase pressure on the housing market. And reducing the pressure on the housing market is what will help the most people the quickest. I think rent control would(unfortunately) be a much harder sell to the voters.
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ElCondemn posted:Does mandating a percentage of new developments be low income solve the same problem?
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anthonypants posted:landlords ignore those rules and do whatever they want, and the city eventually lets them. also let's not forget the fact that in a very large percentage of cases tenants are unwilling to report violations for fear of unlawful evictions/rent increase/retribution from landlords
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I think the government should invest in flooding the market with publc housing and make that housing not-lovely and interspersed with units sold to middle income families. Increase supply of affordable units near the core so much that rents decrease.
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therobit posted:I think the government should invest in flooding the market with publc housing and make that housing not-lovely and interspersed with units sold to middle income families. Increase supply of affordable units near the core so much that rents decrease. Oh okay, well thanks for the simple solution there. We should just start by turning the ?????? into housing? Therobit for HUD secretary, all your cities housing problems solved! 
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therobit posted:I think the government should invest in flooding the market with publc housing and make that housing not-lovely and interspersed with units sold to middle income families. Increase supply of affordable units near the core so much that rents decrease. did you hear someone mention this idea at your local DSA meeting or something
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I mean it's never gonna loving happen but once upon a time the.government built public housing. One of the problems with government housing has been ghettoization. Mixed developments are a way to limit that ghettoization. There is developable land near the core in the Portland area but the city is more interested in sucking the dicks of developers. If you want to push poor people to the margins of the city then you get Rockwood.
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Rent control is dumb, just let private developers actually make more housing in more than a tiny slice of the city and have the government build non-lovely public housing (mixed income, mixed use).
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Yes, clearly what we just need is trickle down housing. The free market just needs to be left alone.
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SeaborneClink posted:Oh okay, well thanks for the simple solution there. We should just start by turning the ?????? into housing? If by ?????? you mean 'tear down sfh', then yes.
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Cicero posted:Rent control is dumb, just let private developers actually make more housing in more than a tiny slice of the city and have the government build non-lovely public housing (mixed income, mixed use). Why is it dumb exactly Also vacancy tax is definitely the right way to go and even the barest minimum of requirements necessary to waive the tax would still hit exactly the groups of people this thread is complaining about. But we also absolutely need rent control and I have never heard of a good argument against it.
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DevNull posted:Yes, clearly what we just need is trickle down housing. The free market just needs to be left alone. 2. Yeah we could probably get lower housing prices through public housing ala Singapore or Vienna too, but that ain't happening right now either. Ideally we'd have both. Peachfart posted:If by ?????? you mean 'tear down sfh', then yes. And even if we had full communism now, ~*~the state~*~ would tear it down to provide housing for people too. Reene posted:Why is it dumb exactly Only helps you if you get in early. So it's pretty nativist and exclusionary. How does it help future poor/working-class/middle-class people who want to move in after an economic boom? It doesn't. It segregates people by timing, which is dumb. Ties people down with geographic golden handcuffs. Hope you never have to move to go to college, or to be closer to work, or to temporarily to take care of an ailing relative, or to have a bigger home because now you have kids, or one of a million other reasons, because then rent control does jack poo poo for you. There are probably other reasons, those are the ones I got off the top of my head. Rent control like in Germany would probably be okay though because it's more broad-based and land use in Germany is actually sane.
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Cicero posted:1. That's the problem, the market is pretty obviously not free at the moment. Zoning in nearly every American city is a disaster that seems designed to hurt people, especially the poor and working class. You think super low density is something intended to help the working man? It's pretty obviously exclusionary and classist (and probably racist), especially when combined with school district boundaries. And yet we get idiot leftists thinking that putting what amounts to a production quota on a product that everyone needs has no relation to the rising prices, like supply and demand don't exist.
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Lack of parking should require developers to invest a meaningful portion of the money they squeeze in mass transit and bike infrastructure. This is a huge no-brainer.
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George posted:This is a huge no-brainer. As an avid cyclist I will openly say that increased funding in bike infrastructure does very little to actually impact traffic congestion and is money better spent elsewhere. Funds for mass transit only work when the city actually wants to invest in a practical, sustainable, and expandable system. Investments like this make more sense when residents are likely to utilize public transit. If they continue to build $750,000 apartments in NoPo it's a pretty safe bet the new owners/tenants are unlikely to be spotted on a public bus or... ***GASP*** THE CRIME TRAIN. Force developers to incorporate logical parking solutions that meet a pre-determined criteria into their designs or refuse permits- funneling money into a blue sky public transit system will never provide enough financial (or political) support to effectively make an impact.
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Peachfart posted:First, a vacancy tax is much more fair and far less racist. Anyone who thinks a tax levied on non-citizens is automatically "racist" is a moron
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call to action posted:Anyone who thinks a tax levied on non-citizens is automatically "racist" is a moron IM DAY DAY IRL posted:As an avid cyclist I will openly say that increased funding in bike infrastructure does very little to actually impact traffic congestion and is money better spent elsewhere. Funds for mass transit only work when the city actually wants to invest in a practical, sustainable, and expandable system. Investments like this make more sense when residents are likely to utilize public transit. If they continue to build $750,000 apartments in NoPo it's a pretty safe bet the new owners/tenants are unlikely to be spotted on a public bus or... ***GASP*** THE CRIME TRAIN. Force developers to incorporate logical parking solutions that meet a pre-determined criteria into their designs or refuse permits- funneling money into a blue sky public transit system will never provide enough financial (or political) support to effectively make an impact. anthonypants fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Jul 5, 2017 |
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call to action posted:Anyone who thinks a tax levied on non-citizens is automatically "racist" is a moron Anyone who doesn't understand why this is racist is probably a racist.
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As someone living in Seattle that has had their rent go up 50% in the last 18 months I can say that landlords will use any excuse to jack the rent. building maintenance/Property taxes/Wind shifts to the left 3 degrees on a Sunday
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I'm glad that you guys have managed to collaborate and jointly recognize what is a universal truth; that everyone is racist. you already triggered me with this in the Oregoons thread tony.
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:I'm glad that you guys have managed to collaborate and jointly recognize what is a universal truth; that everyone is racist. 
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BlueBlazer posted:As someone living in Seattle that has had their rent go up 50% in the last 18 months I can say that landlords will use any excuse to jack the rent. It sounds like your rent may have been increased illegally. If you have an existing lease they are not allowed to change the terms of that lease, that's true in all of Washington. In Seattle proper they're also required to give you a 60 day notice of a rent increase over 10% or more in a 12 month period. Quick google gives me this page, seems to cover everything that you would need to get your rent reduced http://www.tenantsunion.org/en/rights/rule-changes-rent-increases If I were you I'd start looking for a new place to live though...
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