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But at least most of those shots are low at his legs instead of all the shots he takes to the head.
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Heliogabalos posted:so CAS, what are the feels at the moment? I am on board with what Benning has done so far this summer. He's finally accepted that we're not temporarily embarrassed contenders and has (seemingly) committed to incremental improvement over time. Most of the draft picks he made were solid from a percentages perspective, and all his free agent signings were stopgaps that keep the team from rushing young players into the lineup again and could potentially be flipped for assets in the future. I don't mind that the team hasn't traded Tanev. Dallas' 3rd overall (or a similarly valued pick or prospect) is the only return that the team should've considered moving him for. He's not going anywhere and He pushes the rest of the defence down a spot which they very much need.No matter how you shake it, that back end is going to be subpar at absolute best. Worst comes to worst they can ice an Edler-Tanev pairing for 25 minutes a night because they know that works and keeps everyone else from being brutally exposed. With that said, you're bang on when you say this team has no core to build around. They are steadily improving their prospect base, but there are no sure thing impact players in there. This is essentially year one of the rebuild, and even if everything went right with every u21 player they have that's not a top quality contender there. I love Horvat, but he's a depth player on a team with serious designs at winning a cup. It's more likely than not that the team has yet to draft a single part of their future core. The team is going to be bad for a while. Likely very bad, but if these moves were done with that mindset (which seems to be the case) then the healing can begin. Whether the PP or PK is improved or not next year is largely irrelevant to me. What you see on the ice come October is going to bear little to no resemblance to what we'll see when the team is respectable again. Really the only things that matter next year are how the youngsters perform and if Green's system is one to keep moving forwards. A few percentage points here or there isn't going to markedly affect things over the long term. If they play a fun, upbeat style I'll tune in. If they continue that dreadful trap style they employed under Willie then I won't. Daniel hitting 1000pts could very well be the only noteworthy moment of the 2017-18 Vancouver Canucks season.
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ThinkTank posted:~words~ So still riding that high from Luca Sbisa being selected by Vegas.
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Schlesische posted:So still riding that high from Luca Sbisa being selected by Vegas. Yeah, and unlike Bergevin, Benning didn't go out and immediately throw 25M at an awful UFA to replace him.
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grack posted:Yeah, and unlike Bergevin, Benning didn't go out and immediately throw 25M at an awful UFA to replace him. The only questionable decision is making good, multi-year signings (the sort that are harder to flip) rather than purposely only picking up garbage for the full tank.
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Heliogabalos posted:so CAS, what are the feels at the moment? The thing about trading Tanev in 3 years is he's at his peak *now*. He will not be a better player in 3 years, and will very likely be a worse one. That being said, maybe the return is better next year, or possibly even in 3 years - that it would have been now - but is the team that much worse without Tanev (Keeping in mind their 29th place finish this season)? I doubt it. But ThinkTank brings up a good point that without Tanev there someone else has to step into those minutes. Stetcher maybe could, but it's only his 2nd season and I don't think that'd be good for his development. Hutton took a step back this season, and maybe isn't up to the task either. It's also unlikely Benning even tries to get anything for the Sedins at the end of their last year here, so we really do need to have the team trying to aggressively acquire assets sooner rather than later from somewhere
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HookShot posted:Also it's going to take the Canucks a lot more than three years to be a good team again. I have my fingers crossed that they'll figure it out and be a bit less embarrassing by the early 20s, but I'm not holding my breath. Schlesische posted:So still riding that high from Luca Sbisa being selected by Vegas. Benning almost succeeded in trading Gudbranson for Jason Demers. Like in real life, not a video game. I feel like I've stepped into an alternate universe.
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https://twitter.com/TonyMarinaro/status/882051314993201153 but why?
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If it's short term and cheap I could be on board, but other than that forget it
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He's still good just don't overwork him or he's pretty brutal. I mean yeah this applies to everyone but especially Markov.
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Shawn Cotureier posted:If it's short term and cheap I could be on board, but other than that forget it Yeah if it's one year for cheap, fine, but that's not happening. Hextall said he didn't want to sign veterans to block the kids. It doesn't make sense for anyone.
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Markov was great this year. The bottom could always fall out but he's held up as well as any old defenseman.
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Schlemko - Weber Benn - Petry Alzner, Davidson, Morrow Habs are gonna miss the playoffs. Carey should've asked for more money playing in front this garbage. yellowcar fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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The Atlantic is still pretty bad, so I expect the Habs will squeak into the playoffs just to be unceremoniously bounced in 5 games in the first round.
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Suspicious posted:The Atlantic is still pretty bad, so I expect the Habs will squeak into the playoffs just to be unceremoniously bounced in 5 games in the first round. Eh, Toronto got better. Ottawa and Boston are mostly the same. Tampa should be hot hot hot next year with Stamkos playing a full season. I could see them missing pretty easily, especially if they can't find a way to make up Radulov/Markov's points.
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Buffalo is gonna be better next season. How much better is yet to be seen.
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The Habs have lost: Subban, Sergachev, Barberio, Beaulieu, Pateryn all in a span of two loving years. Contract the Habs.
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yellowcar posted:The Habs have lost: Subban, Sergachev, Barberio, Beaulieu, Pateryn all in a span of two loving years. You forgot Radulov
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iospace posted:You forgot Radulov David Desharnais, Sven Andrighetto, Lars Eller and there is a 0% loving chance that Paul Byron hits 20 goals again.
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I meant in terms of just defence (Markov too now). But yeah, you're right.
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yellowcar posted:Schlemko - Weber You know that Alzner - Weber will be the Habs first pairing.
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The stars might be good this year Maybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Kilza posted:You know that Alzner - Weber will be the Habs first pairing. It doesn't even matter. It's gonna be bad. Slow and bad.
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Carey Price is playing four dimensional chess. He gets more money AND gets to spend the playoffs at home with his new kid. loving genius.
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The Leafs getting Marleau has me all hot and bothered even though I realize it's no longer 2006. But it's a name I actually recognize. Gonna have to watch them more this year. Are they a dark house for the Eastern conference finals?
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:The Leafs getting Marleau has me all hot and bothered even though I realize it's no longer 2006. But it's a name I actually recognize. Gonna have to watch them more this year. Are they a dark house for the Eastern conference finals? Hell no.
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yellowcar posted:Hell no. Ya, it'll be tough to go through the grueling gauntlet that led Ottawa to the Conference Finals.
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Shinjobi posted:The stars might be good this year I believe. They proved that all you need is goals and I have tempered but moderate expectations of bishop. Then again, that d corps...
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Ya, it'll be tough to go through the grueling gauntlet that led Ottawa to the Conference Finals. They took the Stanley Cup champion to double overtime game 7. The east sucks poo poo, anything can happen. Like, Buffalo making the SCF wouldnt even phase me at this point.
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MononcQc posted:yeah but they got players like John Scott, Steve Ott, Karl Azner, Brandon Davidson, Andrew Shaw, and Dwight King so uh definite win there Well, Brandon Davidson is pretty good so expect Bergevin to trade him for a conditional 5th or something.
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