[The Succ Zone] I unblocked you, again, to say this: You don't fucking know me.

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1994 Toyota Celica: Sep 11, 2008; by Nyc_Tattoo

Flunky posted:

so i read their bullshit reasoning but whats the real, actual goal of doing this

finish destroying public ed, leave charter schools as the only option other than homeschooling for educating children

# ? Jul 4, 2017 05:16

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# ? May 11, 2024 09:32

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

I'm from Cedar Rapids and I say chill 'em all.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 05:17

Squizzle: Apr 24, 2008

Joementum posted:

[turns to camera]

that's just what ahh wanted them to think was
mah plan

politics
zynga
president trump

# ? Jul 4, 2017 05:21

ThndrShk2k: Nov 3, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo; Bread Liar

Flunky posted:

so i read their bullshit reasoning but whats the real, actual goal of doing this

Poors are controlled and stay poor if they can't meet the demands of the state since there will be no jobs for those without a diploma.
It basically forces them to stay locked to where they are or move away and take a GED or whatever the local equivalent is, which of course not completing highschool properly to get a diploma where you attended is a bias of it's own for potential employers.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 05:27

new phone who dis: May 24, 2007; by VideoGames; Morbid Hound

Flunky posted:

so i read their bullshit reasoning but whats the real, actual goal of doing this

Shifting blame for the poo poo economy onto young workers and encouraging more loan borrowing.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 05:30

OhFunny: Jun 26, 2013; EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Joementum posted:

Rahm is a monster part the infinity

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/882038190735052801

This is super hosed.

Destroy Democrats.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 05:34

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Barbe Rouge posted:

https://agenda-blog.com/2017/07/03/primary-colors-on-democratic-presidential-politics-neoliberalism-and-the-white-working-class/

i found this to be a pretty interesting read even if i dont agree with the author's historical analysis of elections decades past. however i feel they bring up an excellent point in that neither "whites are racists" nor "voters want progressive policies" fully explains the outcome of 2016.

if you factor age into it i feel things begin to make a little more sense i feel. young voters overwhelmingly want progressive policies as seen by obama's 08 numbers and that sanders won primary states were youth turnout, particularly 18-30, was a couple of points higher. the key, i believe, isn't that progressive policies are going to win over the racists that jumped ship in the 70s and 80s and now make up the republicans strongest voting bloc. progressive policies however will turn out the youth vote (who almost reached double digits in their voting for 3rd parties in 2016) and provide a path for a victory

# ? Jul 4, 2017 05:56

ThndrShk2k: Nov 3, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo; Bread Liar

ThndrShk2k posted:

The gently caress?

The gently caress!?!? :psyduck:

# ? Jul 4, 2017 05:57

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

https://youtu.be/P6oOuKQnPaU

# ? Jul 4, 2017 05:59

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

ThndrShk2k posted:

The gently caress!?!?

dems bad

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:01

FuriousxGeorge: Aug 8, 2007; We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.

So an 18 year old finishes senior year and wants to get married and be a homemaker instead of working. They are now not allowed to graduate high school. hahahahahaha, what?

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:10

Gene Hackman Fan: Dec 27, 2002; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

speaking ex cathedra on this one: if rahm was the kind of people Obama surrounded himself with, maybe his legacy isn't worth defending and we as a party would do well to start treating these people as highly radioactive.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:12

Mormon Star Wars: Aug 13, 2005; It's a minotaur race...

Subjunctivitis posted:

QQ: Why don't all these #resist Dems harp about this? Like, they're not saying,"We can't repeal Obamacare and hang people out to dry! We need to expand it to more people with a public option while fixing the inherent pricing flaws!"

I also watched all of the debates, and I never heard Hillary say this, or at least in a way that would perk up my ears to it. I never went to her website

She actually did say she supported a public option. Then she defined "Public Option" as lowering the Medicare age to 55:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-health-care-public-option.html posted:

I’m also in favor of what’s called the public option, so that people can buy into Medicare at a certain age,” Mrs. Clinton said on Monday at a campaign event in Virginia.

Mr. Sanders calls his single-payer health care plan “Medicare for all.” What Mrs. Clinton proposed was a sort of Medicare for more.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:12

Gene Hackman Fan: Dec 27, 2002; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mormon Star Wars posted:

She actually did say she supported a public option. Then she defined "Public Option" as lowering the Medicare age to 55:

so... that's actually a no.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:13

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

speaking ex cathedra on this one: if rahm was the kind of people Obama surrounded himself with, maybe his legacy isn't worth defending and we as a party would do well to start treating these people as highly radioactive.

Racesexism :byodood:

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:14

ThndrShk2k: Nov 3, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo; Bread Liar

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

so... that's actually a no.

Well she "said" she "did" "support" it.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:15

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

Mormon Star Wars posted:

She actually did say she supported a public option. Then she defined "Public Option" as lowering the Medicare age to 55:

she supported both public option *and* medicare buy-in, two separate proposals (although she is a bit ambiguous there). she also supported a public option when she ran in 2008

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:18

Frijolero: Jan 24, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo

GalacticAcid posted:

Rahm is by leaps and bounds the worst of the Obama admin.

It's really not close.

Uhh, Obama was the greatest of garbos

Then of course there's Hillary Clinton :laffo:

Eric Holder lol, Rahm is like 4-5 on the list of terrible human beings

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:19

Ytlaya: Nov 13, 2005

anime was right posted:

ive said repeatedly that clinton would have been a fine president, but like, she literally never advocated for her mostly good policies which were a harder sell because

she ran on a list of terms and conditions attached to bernies platform and didn't even list off the table of contents

The thing that concerned me about Clinton is that, even though she had articulated a number of good policies (mostly on her website), her history doesn't really make her a reliable actor to implement them. I also feared that she may have only been so willing to make the concessions she did because a Congress that wouldn't be able to pass such legislation was likely to also result from the election. Like, if I put myself in the shoes of "a centrist Democrat who wants to win the votes of more leftist Democrats without scaring off my more traditional donors and supporters", she did about what I would have done - technically include some good/progressive ideas in your platform, but under circumstances where you have a ready excuse for not actually implementing them and without being particularly vocal about them (so as to not concern the aforementioned traditional donors and supporters).

All this being said, I still would have gladly taken the small chance of her actually doing some of this stuff over Trump.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:22

1994 Toyota Celica: Sep 11, 2008; by Nyc_Tattoo

Concerned Citizen posted:

cultist

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:26

Corky Romanovsky: Oct 1, 2006; Soiled Meat

Concerned Citizen posted:

she supported both public option *and* medicare buy-in, two separate proposals (although she is a bit ambiguous there). she also supported a public option when she ran in 2008

I bet if you ask her or her press secretary they will say "she means what she said" or something along those lines, while the rest of the public is left puzzled by the word salad, not unlike our current situation with Trump.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:28

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

Corky Romanovsky posted:

I bet if you ask her or her press secretary they will say "she means what she said" or something along those lines, while the rest of the public is left puzzled by the word salad, not unlike our current situation with Trump.

well luckily that was not the only instance of her campaign saying the words "public option" so we don't need to be puzzled about it

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:32

Corky Romanovsky: Oct 1, 2006; Soiled Meat

You agreed there is ambiguity.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:33

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

Corky Romanovsky posted:

You agreed there is ambiguity.

ambiguity in that one sentence.

quote:

�Hillary will work with interested governors, using current flexibility under the Affordable Care Act, to empower states to establish a public option choice.�

which, btw, is still retrograde from her position in 2008 but is pretty clearly distinguished from a medicare buy-in

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:34

ThndrShk2k: Nov 3, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo; Bread Liar

Ytlaya posted:

...even though she had articulated a number of good policies (mostly on her website), her history doesn't really make her a reliable actor to implement them.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:36

UHD: Nov 11, 2006

hillary bad

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:41

Rand alPaul: Feb 3, 2010; by Nyc_Tattoo

Hillary takes a backseat to no one when it comes to her credentials as a mealymouthed supporter of the Pubic Option.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:45

Corky Romanovsky: Oct 1, 2006; Soiled Meat

Public Opinion

public definition: the option available to the public to buy in to a cheaper alternative to private health insurance

private definition: the option available to the public to die in a way that enriches private companies

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:51

Corky Romanovsky: Oct 1, 2006; Soiled Meat

Universal Healthcare

public definition: a system in which a minimum level of care is guaranteed

private definition: a system in which a minimum level of profit is guaranteed to private companies

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:54

Corky Romanovsky: Oct 1, 2006; Soiled Meat

Single Payer

public definition: a form of health insurance in which the government negotiates and pays for medical expenses

private definition: a form of health insurance in which the individual is obliged to pay whatever is demanded by the sole service provider in the area

# ? Jul 4, 2017 06:58

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

just as humans consume everything

so will we finally consume ourselves

# ? Jul 4, 2017 07:06

Bip Roberts: Mar 29, 2005

FuriousxGeorge posted:

So an 18 year old finishes senior year and wants to get married and be a homemaker instead of working. They are now not allowed to graduate high school. hahahahahaha, what?

Good?

# ? Jul 4, 2017 07:14

SKULL.GIF: Jan 20, 2017

Lastgirl posted:

just as humans consume everything

so will we finally consume ourselves

the explicit and literal purpose of life is to consume

all life beyond the mitochondrial level is nothing but more complicated methods of consuming energy that is selfishly advantageous to that specific form of life

# ? Jul 4, 2017 07:17

Guy Goodbody: Aug 31, 2016; by Nyc_Tattoo

Bip Roberts posted:

Good?

How is that good?

# ? Jul 4, 2017 07:19

Subjunctivitis: Oct 12, 2007; Causation or Correlation?

https://twitter.com/LucianNikki/status/882073243246485504

# ? Jul 4, 2017 07:22

Jazerus: May 24, 2011

SKULL.GIF posted:

the explicit and literal purpose of life is to consume

all life beyond the mitochondrial level is nothing but more complicated methods of consuming energy that is selfishly advantageous to that specific form of life

mitochondria are the original slaves

# ? Jul 4, 2017 07:22