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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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Those guys are relatively young legit NBA players (well I personally don't want Smart anywhere near my team but whatever) and Crowder has one of the best contracts in the league, it's not like they're dumping Mozgov and his awful contract where you need to sweeten the pot. They should be able to get something in return. I'd be fine with Utah dumping a pick to get Crowder back.
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Jul 6, 2017 15:55
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Nets about to do it againquote:The Pistons already were over the salary cap and with the Galloway move, possibly made it more difficult to get Caldwell-Pope. “The issue is that KCP’s maximum salary is $24.8 million, so if he got an offer sheet somewhere else for the maximum and Brooklyn — once Otto Porter gets the max — seems like the only reasonable option to do that,” NBA cap expert Nate Duncan told The Detroit News. “If that happens, (the Pistons) — as it stands right now — could not match and could not go over that apron for any reason at any time during the season, once they sign Langston Galloway.” http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2017/07/05/pistons-keeping-kcp-tricky-proposition/103458328/
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Jul 6, 2017 15:55
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FlamingLiberal posted:I really thought LeBron was smarter than to go back and work under Dan Gilbert. I hope he leaves again. Gilbert's never going to stop pulling the same crap. LeBron made the right decision for a number of reasons (#1 being erasing all the bad PR from when he rightly left the first time, and that's coming from a Cavs fan). But, if the ownership keep loving with the team when everyone with a brain knows LeBron recruits and probably pays guys extra off the books I don't blame him for leaving again (though I would once again be very sad). Dan Gilbert just needs to be an absentee owner who opens the check book to bring in all stars from 2011 that LeBron parties with and hope that GSW get some injuries before the Finals next year.
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Jul 6, 2017 15:56
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Bigass Moth posted:LeBron made the right decision for a number of reasons (#1 being erasing all the bad PR from when he rightly left the first time, and that's coming from a Cavs fan). But, if the ownership keep loving with the team when everyone with a brain knows LeBron recruits and probably pays guys extra off the books I don't blame him for leaving again (though I would once again be very sad). Lol what
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Jul 6, 2017 15:59
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Nets loving up others teams cap future out of pure spite is spectacular.
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Jul 6, 2017 15:59
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Cool Buff Man posted:Nets about to do it again Please do this brooklyn
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Jul 6, 2017 16:01
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Paul Zuvella posted:Because negotiating from a completely powerless place is a bad place to be. Utah is the only one who could live taking on those guys without caring because they don't want to be left with nothing when Hayward bolts. Letting another team take Crowder, et al for nothing when you could have had those guys for 75 cents on the dollar seems like a very dumb move. The leverage Boston has is the asset themselves and the fact that someone will make a deal. Boston might also favor a S&T so they can juggle cap and maybe make another move. That might be worth taking a smaller asset back from Utah vs other contracts being offered. Also, if I wanted to be a contender I would not want to get rid of Avery Bradley, he seems like a perfect "4th guy" for a legit contender.
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Jul 6, 2017 16:02
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morestuff posted:I wouldn't even bother going for Giannis since he's going to be dead eventually. Same with all these other so-called superstars Glory is fleeting, but future firsts are forever - Danny Ainge
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Jul 6, 2017 16:04
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Lol @ LeBron paying guys. Pretty much everyone on that team either has a Max or leveraged an overpay for themselves. If anything they should be paying him.
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Jul 6, 2017 16:04
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MourningView posted:Lol what owner lebron doesnt play by the same rules as gm lebron
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Jul 6, 2017 16:04
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LeBron paying guys extra is a common conspiracy theory in Cleveland, probably not true but nothing about under the table money in pro sports would surprise me.
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Jul 6, 2017 16:06
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he pays them extra in that hes made the ownership overpay for roleplayers to keep the team together putting dan gilbert deep in the tax meanwhile kd taking money straight outta players pockets and putting it into joe lacobs hands smh
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Jul 6, 2017 16:09
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Bigass Moth posted:LeBron paying guys extra is a common conspiracy theory in Cleveland, probably not true but nothing about under the table money in pro sports would surprise me. It'd be more believable if they had a single underpaid guy on the roster
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Jul 6, 2017 16:11
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Bigass Moth posted:LeBron paying guys extra is a common conspiracy theory in Cleveland, probably not true but nothing about under the table money in pro sports would surprise me. Who on the Cavs is so underpaid that LeBron needed to sweeten the pot. Was Iman Shumpert getting a lot of max offers? If he's gonna cheat he should really go get, like, Kevin Durant instead, he's not doing a very good job of this.
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Jul 6, 2017 16:11
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Look I know it's against the rules but sorry, I just need to have Richard Jefferson and he's got that lucrative podcasting gig to fall back on
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Jul 6, 2017 16:12
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MourningView posted:Who on the Cavs is so underpaid that LeBron needed to sweeten the pot. Was Iman Shumpert getting a lot of max offers? If he's gonna cheat he should really go get, like, Kevin Durant instead, he's not doing a very good job of this. He's paying Kevin Durant the 10 million he left on the table. Boom. Solved
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Jul 6, 2017 16:13
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MourningView posted:Look I know it's against the rules but sorry, I just need to have Richard Jefferson and he's got that lucrative podcasting gig to fall back on
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Jul 6, 2017 16:15
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Paul Zuvella posted:That would make it even more impossible for them to sign hayward. Not if the team wasn't selfish.
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Jul 6, 2017 16:23
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Disillusionist posted:Seems pretty clear to me. He's saying that Boston shouldn't just throw in Smart/Crowder/Bradley in a sign-and-trade for Hayward to Utah. Those guys can fetch assets from another team, so unless Utah wants to pay an asset Boston should trade them to another team and sign Hayward outright. 5 years
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Jul 6, 2017 16:29
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MourningView posted:Look I know it's against the rules but sorry, I just need to have Richard Jefferson and he's got that lucrative podcasting gig to fall back on sensational.
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Jul 6, 2017 16:30
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euphronius posted:5 years From what I understand it's in Hayward's best interest to take a shorter deal and hit the market again when he's got 10 years of experience. With his agent apparently facilitating the sign-and-trade it might have been a pre-req for him going to Boston, though
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Jul 6, 2017 16:33
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morestuff posted:From what I understand it's in Hayward's best interest to take a shorter deal and hit the market again when he's got 10 years of experience. With his agent apparently facilitating the sign-and-trade it might have been a pre-req for him going to Boston, though Boston might get a 4 plus one which is better than a 3 plus 1. Better for boston.
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Jul 6, 2017 16:35
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End of an era https://twitter.com/DanFeldmanNBA/status/882975365488148480
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Jul 6, 2017 16:47
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Guy Fieri is tight
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Jul 6, 2017 16:47
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So, the Pels are bringing Darius Miller into camp. For those with good memory, he was a 2nd round pick for the Pels in the same draft as Davis. He only stayed for a couple years and has been playing overseas since. I found a couple videos from this blog that, to me, show a much improved handle and quicker release. It will be interesting to me to see if he makes it out of camp. Best game as a Pel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPt14BVuIDk Highlight video of last season overseas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtf7tefp8vY&t=13s
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Jul 6, 2017 17:00
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morestuff posted:From what I understand it's in Hayward's best interest to take a shorter deal and hit the market again when he's got 10 years of experience. With his agent apparently facilitating the sign-and-trade it might have been a pre-req for him going to Boston, though When you are a blown Achilles away from your lifetime earnings tanking, you want the most guaranteed salary as possible. Plus the cap isn't jumping again anytime soon, so the raises you get will probably outpace the cap/category raise if you opt out. Really, only a handful of players can afford/know they will get a Max even if they lose a leg to prefer flexibility over guaranteed salary. I don't think Hayward is there.
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Jul 6, 2017 17:01
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Lockback posted:When you are a blown Achilles away from your lifetime earnings tanking, you want the most guaranteed salary as possible. Plus the cap isn't jumping again anytime soon, so the raises you get will probably outpace the cap/category raise if you opt out. If there is one thing this offseason has taught us, it is that over-valuing your potential future earnings is a horrible move to make as a player.
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Jul 6, 2017 17:05
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Lockback posted:When you are a blown Achilles away from your lifetime earnings tanking, you want the most guaranteed salary as possible. Plus the cap isn't jumping again anytime soon, so the raises you get will probably outpace the cap/category raise if you opt out. Well, unless things change he's agreed to a 3+1 already, so he's already got some protection with that player option. When he hits 10 seasons after that third year he's eligible for 35% of the cap vs. 30%, so it's really not a small amount. Paul Zuvella posted:If there is one thing this offseason has taught us, it is that over-valuing your potential future earnings is a horrible move to make as a player. 
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Jul 6, 2017 17:06
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Bigass Moth posted:LeBron made the right decision for a number of reasons (#1 being erasing all the bad PR from when he rightly left the first time, and that's coming from a Cavs fan). But, if the ownership keep loving with the team when everyone with a brain knows LeBron recruits and probably pays guys extra off the books I don't blame him for leaving again (though I would once again be very sad). MourningView posted:Lol what Not directly, but if you think about it playing next to LeBron did wonders for Kyrie's shoe sales and Love's endorsements and both of their general exposure. Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Jul 6, 2017 |
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Jul 6, 2017 17:11
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morestuff posted:I wouldn't even bother going for Giannis since he's going to be dead eventually. Same with all these other so-called superstars I'm not entirely convinced that LeBron is mortal.
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Jul 6, 2017 17:12
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I haven't really been in here, but I like the Clippers offseason because they literally acquired 3 of my favorite players in the NBA, but I also don't like it because we should have just S&T'd Blake to OKC and traded DeAndre and tanked probably
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Jul 6, 2017 17:13
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Memphis is great https://twitter.com/GaryParrishCBS/status/882996301578817537
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Jul 6, 2017 17:16
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straight up brolic posted:I haven't really been in here, but I like the Clippers offseason because they literally acquired 3 of my favorite players in the NBA, but I also don't like it because we should have just S&T'd Blake to OKC and traded DeAndre and tanked probably Tanking is boring and lame and Blake effectively acting as the point will be really fun for the like 10 games he and Gallo are both healthy
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Jul 6, 2017 17:19
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straight up brolic posted:I haven't really been in here, but I like the Clippers offseason because they literally acquired 3 of my favorite players in the NBA, but I also don't like it because we should have just S&T'd Blake to OKC and traded DeAndre and tanked probably Before the trade for Gallinari I said that a good GM could get the Clips to 50 wins this season. I'm not sold on Danilo and Blake being a good pairing, but I believe the Clippers are a 50 win team. I think it makes sense for the Clippers to tread water for a bit and see if maybe another superstar falls into their lap.
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Jul 6, 2017 17:25
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I love this
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Jul 6, 2017 17:26
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morestuff posted:Well, unless things change he's agreed to a 3+1 already, so he's already got some protection with that player option. When he hits 10 seasons after that third year he's eligible for 35% of the cap vs. 30%, so it's really not a small amount. If you do a S&T you can do 7.5% raises, which back of the napkin looks like it gets him over 35% anyway if the cap grows at it's current slowish pace. The era of getting a big pay raise that out paced normal raises was a product of the cap jump. Historically you did better by keeping your raises as high as possible.
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Jul 6, 2017 17:26
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I missed cap smoothing chat but I don't see why everyone should suffer just because Portland doesn't know what a good contract looks likeCool Buff Man posted:Nets about to do it again One of these days the other team isn't going to match and the Nets are actually gonna be stuck with one of these dumbass contracts Hashtag Banterzone posted:Before the trade for Gallinari I said that a good GM could get the Clips to 50 wins this season. I'm not sold on Danilo and Blake being a good pairing, but I believe the Clippers are a 50 win team. I think it makes sense for the Clippers to tread water for a bit and see if maybe another superstar falls into their lap. It's kinda hard to see who that would be though. Maybe Paul George gets really confused and signs with the wrong LA next season?
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Jul 6, 2017 17:29
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Kibner posted:So, the Pels are bringing Darius Miller into camp. Darius has been really good over the last couple of years. He is an excellent defensive wing. I hope he gets some guaranteed money, he deserves a real chance at rotation minutes.
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Jul 6, 2017 17:30
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The Grizzlies own.
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Jul 6, 2017 17:31
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Do the grizz have any other retired numbers?
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