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Look on the bright side: once people get their drop they stop playing for the week, so you will always be rolling against 7 other people who also haven't gotten their drop yet and your odds will never increase. Wait
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Saint Freak posted:Look on the bright side: once people get their drop they stop playing for the week, so you will always be rolling against 7 other people who also haven't gotten their drop yet and your odds will never increase. or you could just go with goons, it is an mmo after all.
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Holyshoot posted:do you like doing long boring grinds? if so then not an issue. But for most people its loving awful. I've been going fishing or doing botany poo poo while I'm in dungeon queue, and that's not too bad. What else were you honestly going to do for 16 minutes or whatever?
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deadly_pudding posted:I've been going fishing or doing botany poo poo while I'm in dungeon queue, and that's not too bad. What else were you honestly going to do for 16 minutes or whatever? im a tank
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Holyshoot posted:or you could just go with goons, it is an mmo after all. I did a pony farm with goons once. The person that started it got super mad they didn't get the first drop and quit and then everyone else petered out.
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Saint Freak posted:I did a pony farm with goons once. The person that started it got super mad they didn't get the first drop and quit and then everyone else petered out. lmao
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Saint Freak posted:I did a pony farm with goons once. The person that started it got super mad they didn't get the first drop and quit and then everyone else petered out. yea sounds accurate
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Holyshoot posted:im a tank Wait to level Fisher until you have a few dps classes to level up then!
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What I think they should just do with normal mode loot is just have a single token, and you get one per turn just for clearing and then so many tokens drop off the boss and you can win one of those per floor per week as well. There, you don't have people not lotting on things to try to game the lots, you mitigate bad roll luck (you can't go a week without getting anything at all unless you outright fail to clear), and you're still ensuring that some portion of the population runs it more than once a week. What they're actually going to do with normal mode loot is just use the system they have now forever.
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Got my DRG to 70 yesterday so I did some of the new raid as that instead of my AST. DRG feels awkward. On dummies it's kind of okay. The timers kind of drift funny but okay. My major fear going into content was that I'd drop eyes left and right but in practice my bigger issue was bunching of oGCD and weird timing shifts while trying to do mechanics. I feel like the job could really be saved by cutting down the animation lock on the new abilities and maybe even cutting back on life surge. But at the end of the day, what really kind of bothers me is that my DPS didn't even change that much when I felt I did it "right" and when I think I hosed the whole thing up. Not sure if this was their intention but I guess it was.
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nuru posted:What you're describing would fit exactly what they've done with Brute Justice and what I'm proposing for O4S. Also, stop quoting ten people in your posts N nuru posted:What you're describing would fit exactly what they've done with Brute Justice and what I'm proposing for O4S. Also, stop quoting ten people in your posts O Truga posted:if you can figure out a system where people will still run more than once per week, but isn't also worse in every single way, I'd love to hear it. The EX primal token system. You get a drop or you collect enough tokens to get what you want. Mordiceius posted:A real odd strat because you should roll on your preferred item last. I got the thing I wanted in one shot of each omega thing by doing this, even though I only rolled about 50 on my last item. Feet and gloves in one week  Saint Freak posted:Look on the bright side: once people get their drop they stop playing for the week, so you will always be rolling against 7 other people who also haven't gotten their drop yet and your odds will never increase. Except for 3 and 4 where some progression raiders still are only taking the items for chest and legs, leaving easy rolls on other stuff, even though you will get enough of whatever the new currency is in 2 weeks to get chest. Here is my super pro elite gearing strat: Week 1: feet, feet, hands, hands | Lakshmi and Susan as possible for weap and RS Week 2: waist, head, legs, legs | Lakshmi and Susan Week 3: any missing acc slot, head, legs, legs | cap tomes Week 4: missing acc, missing acc, whatever, doesn't matter | cap tomes, buy chest Week 5: tomes Week 6: tomes Week 7: tomes, buy new tome weapon with the 7 gears unless I've been lucky and got a drop Means I don't have to smash my face on a wall to get specific drops and I'm still fully geared in 4 weeks But people farm v3 and v4 over and over and over because someone made a table that forgets that tomes exist but shows that if you get your specific doodad you can gear in 4 weeks
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I vaguely got back into doing mining stuff last night despite spending all of Heavensward on Fisher. Trying to collectible mine reminded me why I abandoned it for fishing, why is this such massive rear end? And why do cordials have a 4 minute cooldown? 
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Please nobody forget the first iteration of this system where it was just two randomly selected tokens from the pool available to each instance. It can always be worse.
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What are the chances goons are still going to be running normal Omega once savage comes out? Because with the amount I play I probably won't be ready for normal until savage is out, and I'd really prefer not to have to run with randoms because everyone else is running savage.
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Harrow posted:What are the chances goons are still going to be running normal Omega once savage comes out? Because with the amount I play I probably won't be ready for normal until savage is out, and I'd really prefer not to have to run with randoms because everyone else is running savage. I hope they are. I did omega the other day with a full goon group and that was pretty neat. I don't care about savage and hate scheduling to play games, so Omega being viable for pickup groups is pretty nice.
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Harrow posted:What are the chances goons are still going to be running normal Omega once savage comes out? Because with the amount I play I probably won't be ready for normal until savage is out, and I'd really prefer not to have to run with randoms because everyone else is running savage. Very high. Alex normal was very popular all through its savage releases.
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Some newbie questions: Are retainer ventures worth it? Turned my first retainer into a conjurer and have been sending her on field expeditions, since conjurer/white mage is the only class I've leveled extensively so far. Company seals, what's the best use for them? I heard in guildchat that they're used to by venture tokens, but I've spent most of mine leveling up gc rank to private first class. How important are they and what's their best use for a newbie? Is there any particular use for gathering classes if I've always hated crafting in MMOs? Thinking about maybe trying fishing as a change of pace and to relax some, and I heard mention it rewards minions and whatnot. Finally, is there anything in particular I should be saving gold for? Only really using it for teleports and turkeyports so far.
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Pierson posted:I want Ravana and Susano-o to fight. That would be too much fun being had in one location, it would cause some sort of happiness singularity.
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Are savage raids so trivial that you just expect people to drop normal for it? Besides those dreaded pubbies can do normal difficulty stuff just fine most of the time.
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Coughing Hobo posted:Very high. Alex normal was very popular all through its savage releases. Okay cool. I've never really been a raider in MMOs but I'd at the very least like to run normal modes in FFXIV. (I'm not opposed to running savage modes if it turns out it's not as time-consuming and I expect, but for now as long as I can do normals I'll be happy.)
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Harrow posted:What are the chances goons are still going to be running normal Omega once savage comes out? Because with the amount I play I probably won't be ready for normal until savage is out, and I'd really prefer not to have to run with randoms because everyone else is running savage. Once Savage comes out I'll probably only be running O4N once per week for the item needed for the weapon and not at all otherwise, since I'll have everything else I needed from it by the end of week 3.
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Truga posted:if you can figure out a system where people will still run more than once per week, but isn't also worse in every single way, I'd love to hear it. Give 1 cracked cluster per run you do where you have A. Received the loot for that version already and B. At least one of the party members has yet to receive loot It's not perfect and a bit gameable, but there you go, relatively low effort method of encouraging people to do extra runs. The siren song of rank 6 materia that isn't based off awful hunt spam.
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Normal is going to stay relevant for like 2 months, o4 for longer since 7 weeks is just 1 weapon.
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While I liked FFV well enough I have to say Omega's music is not as awesome or memorable as Alexander's or Coil's. There's also less of it (albeit just slightly in the case of Alex) since there's no corridors or trash, just bosses.Cythereal posted:Some newbie questions: 1) Retainer ventures are absolutely worth it especially if you're a crafter, even if not you can use it to keep a decent amount of money around by just looking at what sort of skins/mob loot people need for crafting and gathering/selling it. As an omnicrafter I use my retainers to gather materials to craft with rather extensively (though I also pay for additional retainers so I can have 1 of each gathering class + 1 combat). 2) When you're a newbie and don't have much gear you can buy gear/promotions with them. When you're pushing the cap because you Greed all the expert roulette loot that people just pass on for some reason, you can dump the seals on Ventures, Cordials (if you're a gatherer), Dark Matter (if you're a crafter), or I dunno, durability droughts. Basically don't worry about "wasting" them as a newbie as if you greed everything in a dungeon you can eventually turn in gear for company seals and will end up with more than you know what to do with. 3) Generally crafting and gathering go together but you can always just fish for minions or whatever if you want to. It might be worthwhile to have a fisher retainer if you do this because some minions are locked behind fishing ventures. You probably won't end up doing the high end stuff without help from crafters (buying the gear or whatever), but if it's just to relax why not? 4) Gil isn't all that important unless you want to decorate a very pretty room/personal house. Keep enough so that you can pay for basic necessities like repairs and teleports (ventures should more than provide for this) and you're good. Magil Zeal fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jul 6, 2017 |
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Obligatum VII posted:Give 1 cracked cluster per run you do where you have This is great, yeah.
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Cythereal posted:Some newbie questions: Extremely yes. It's a bit like gambling but quick ventures can bring back a very wide variety of items and are the only way of getting the rare dyes. Hunting ventures can save you a little farming too. Gathering is pretty good money as long as you're not going for huge ticket items that everyone is fighting over. It's cake to spend a half hour or so watching a YouTube video and gathering many many logs that sell for 1k+ each. And Gil is mostly for housing and buying expensive glamour stuff, although teleport fees are getting steep lately its not a real issue. Couldn't tell you what the best GC item is though. Coke used to be hot for housing construction but it's next to nothing on the mb on Hyperion right now. Ventures are always good.
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Mordiceius posted:Let's talk about two of my favorite things in this game: Crafting and Gathering! Quoting this for any other people leveling crafting.
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Speaking of rank VI materia, has anyone crunched the numbers and figured out if it's better to meld critical hit or direct hit when given the choice?
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Cythereal posted:Some newbie questions: quote:Company seals, what's the best use for them? I heard in guildchat that they're used to by venture tokens, but I've spent most of mine leveling up gc rank to private first class. How important are they and what's their best use for a newbie? quote:Is there any particular use for gathering classes if I've always hated crafting in MMOs? Thinking about maybe trying fishing as a change of pace and to relax some, and I heard mention it rewards minions and whatnot. quote:Finally, is there anything in particular I should be saving gold for? Only really using it for teleports and turkeyports so far.
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Cythereal posted:Some newbie questions: Weighing pros and cons: Yes. Retainer ventures can be a way to get some rare and weird things, as well as crafting mats that can from time to time be quite annoying to get at hold of. And you don't lose much by sending them off. Company seals aren't super important in the grand scheme of things. You can buy some weapons and armour for them - might come in handy as you level. Leveling up your rank should, I think, be your first priority. Once you hit sergeant, you'll be able to turn in dungeon drops for seals, which is not rarely a better use for those drops than most other things you could be doing with them (ie. vendoring them) Gathering classes are quite the pain in the rase to get to 50, but after that it gets easier. That said, it's eminently possible to do without, even if you do decide to pick up crafting (which, I should mention, is a lot more involved in this game than most, and a bit of a puzzle minigame unto itself, albeit one it's very possible to look up solutions for) Gold is super easy to come by enough of for regular gameplay. Apart from what you've been doing plus pittances for repairs, it's mostly if you want to buy some stuff to help you look good... Or if you want to craft.
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Thanks for the responses. Also noticed the leveling slowing down significantly now that I've hit 40, which I think I'm okay with. Was hoping to not need to make the call about whether to buy the expansions quite as fast as it was looking in the 20s and 30s. 
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Question for PS4 users: If the power goes out do you always have to redownload the game? I'm pretty sure my system was completely off, not in rest mode, when I went to bed last night. We lost power briefly, but when I turned on the PS4 today I got a notice about not being shut down properly and now I have to download 23 gigs worth of data. I'm just wondering, for the future, is this a regular thing? It's possible the PS4 was in rest mode, but we usually turn it off completely at night. Anyone else experience this?
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:I would be so on board with Omega stealing the aesthetic of the machine lifeforms from Nier:Automata. Personality-wise Omega's already not far off. cant wait for the master servo fight
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Here's my solution to the story mode loot system: nothing drops from story mode.
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Fister Roboto posted:Here's my solution to the story mode loot system: nothing drops from story mode. Nah, Savage mode shouldn't have drops. Why do you need better gear if you can kill the hardest stuff? The reward should be the sense of accomplishment and the friends you lost along the way!
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Oxyclean posted:Nah, Savage mode shouldn't have drops. Why do you need better gear if you can kill the hardest stuff? The reward should be the sense of accomplishment and the friends you lost along the way! you can't kill the hardest stuff without the gear it drops. h t h
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Holyshoot posted:you can't kill the hardest stuff without the gear it drops. h t h So make it a bit easier so you can. hth
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Oxyclean posted:Nah, Savage mode shouldn't have drops. Why do you need better gear if you can kill the hardest stuff? The reward should be the sense of accomplishment and the friends you lost along the way! And the amazing mounts!
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:Speaking of rank VI materia, has anyone crunched the numbers and figured out if it's better to meld critical hit or direct hit when given the choice? I don't know if anybody has posted the numbers yet, but I'm fairly confident that crit will still outweigh other substats for most or all jobs.
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