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Tobey Maguire's original screen test for Spiderman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J61RWkXEKTc
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 19:45 |
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Tobey Maguire's original screen test for Spiderman This makes me think of a Spider-Man that kept a closer tonal similarity with The Fly. Which, as much as I like Raimi's Spider-Men, would be interesting. Play up mental changes rather than just physical.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 19:50 |
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Drifter posted:Reeves is talking an awful lot about Chris Nolan but Snyder made the best Batman movie of the two of them. It could have been better if only it wasn't yoked to an "extended universe" like some unwanted fatty tumor
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 20:49 |
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it's a three way tie between Batman V Superman, Dark Knight Rises and Batman Returns.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 20:56 |
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Burkion posted:You'd think he would have been let in on it regardless if only so that when he made a sequel it wouldn't be tonally inconsistent The best / worst thing about Whedon's Avengers movies was that he just couldn't accept that other designers put together better-looking costumes for Captain America. The one used in The First Avenger is pretty much pitch-perfect, and then Whedon goes, "No, I want something more comics-accurate" and signs off on what looked like a $10 Rubie's costume you'd get from Party City. Then the Russos do a pretty decent job with adapting the Secret Avenger suit (as well as going back to the one from First Avenger), and what does Whedon do for Age of Ultron? Goes right back to a garish piece of poo poo.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:00 |
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Timby posted:and what does Whedon do for Age of Ultron? Goes right back to a garish piece of poo poo. Eh, the Age of Ultron suit was a decent halfway between the 1940's paratrooper suit and the cartoonish suit. The strap business was really the best thing they did to the suits to sell them as tactical-looking edit: VVVV I agree but I also gotta give props to Winter Soldier. The airforce stripes around the star are great and the vents/layers in the rest of his suit really sell "tactical" almost as well as the straps Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jul 6, 2017 |
# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:07 |
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Civil War has the best suit honestly.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:12 |
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They all look fine. I don't really get the big deal over them. The middle one which I assume is Avengers is the least "realistic" of them but that doesn't really bother me at all
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:17 |
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I still think that Tobey Maguire had the perfect look and voice for Spider-Man. I also really like Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland. As far as I'm concerned Spidey has never been badly cast. Ironically enough out of all media I've seen the only Peter Parker look I've truly hated is McFarlane's.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:18 |
Even the most buck wild cartoon-rear end cap costume could have been made to work if the director knew how to shoot it.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:20 |
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I just re-read Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man #1 and I forgot that it ends with NEXT: PART 2. No poo poo, you idiot.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:22 |
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Al Borland Corp. posted:They all look fine. I don't really get the big deal over them. The middle one which I assume is Avengers is the least "realistic" of them but that doesn't really bother me at all It looks like a lovely Halloween costume
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:25 |
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Cap changes his fighting style in The Avengers, too. In The First Avenger he's tossing dudes around and loving people up, and then in The Avengers he's doing pirouettes and poo poo.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:38 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I still think that Tobey Maguire had the perfect look and voice for Spider-Man. I also really like Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland. As far as I'm concerned Spidey has never been badly cast. They're all very different versions of Peter Parker, none of them feel like one actor copying another, which is nice. Tobey McGuire played the perfect Ditko-era Total Dork Peter Parker, Garfield was really great as a modern version of a John Romita-esque romantic lead, adjusted so that he still comes off as a loser, and Holland feels like a cross between Bendis' two young Spider-Men, complete with extended supporting cast (though still deeply, deeply nerdy). I like Garfield's the most, but I don't think I begrudge anyone for liking one Parker over the other. I think McGuire suffered a bit in the suit compared to the other two though.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:52 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Reeves has said that The Batman solo film is going to be different from BvS and The Batman from BvS. Considering Superman saved Batman's soul in BvS, a less violence incarnate version makes sense. Especially since Batfleck is one of the few Batmen to do actual detective work.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:56 |
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Well there was that whole "piecing the bullet together" thing in TDK. I guess that's more forensics.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 22:01 |
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Steve Yun posted:edit: VVVV I agree but I also gotta give props to Winter Soldier. The airforce stripes around the star are great and the vents/layers in the rest of his suit really sell "tactical" almost as well as the straps Winter Soldier's still my favorite of them. To me it gives a feeling of being armored, which the other suits lack.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 22:14 |
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Well there was that whole "piecing the bullet together" thing in TDK. I guess that's more forensics. How did that work again?
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 22:14 |
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DC Murderverse posted:I don't think I begrudge anyone for liking one Parker over the other. I think McGuire suffered a bit in the suit compared to the other two though. I absolutely agree that Maguire's Suit Presence was poor. See I actually thought that Maguire could have transitioned into that Romita-esque guy. I could see him being a picked on dork and a dude who ladies swooned for (but with a bit of a marshmellow center). He could look like a doughy dork or a handsome dude, as permitted. I like a lot of what Raimi did but he never really did the transition between Ditko -> Romita Spidey. Him coming out of his shell and becoming more "normal" socially. I would like to have seen Pete's College Days. Also, secretly, I've always wanted Spider-Man to actually be set in 1963 and be a period piece.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:07 |
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hiddenriverninja posted:How did that work again? Alfred test-fires like five different guns into pieces of concrete to see which most accurately matches the bullet pattern. It's pretty goofy and Nolan very smartly edited it to get through that scene as quickly as possible. Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I absolutely agree that Maguire's Suit Presence was poor. See I actually thought that Maguire could have transitioned into that Romita-esque guy. I could see him being a picked on dork and a dude who ladies swooned for (but with a bit of a marshmellow center). He could look like a doughy dork or a handsome dude, as permitted. I like a lot of what Raimi did but he never really did the transition between Ditko -> Romita Spidey. Him coming out of his shell and becoming more "normal" socially. I would like to have seen Pete's College Days. Also, secretly, I've always wanted Spider-Man to actually be set in 1963 and be a period piece. Maguire suffered from having stunt doubles that were easily like 20 pounds more lithe than him, and also from some pretty rough CGI. It got a little better in Spider-Man 2, but especially in the first movie it's transparently obvious when it's not him in the suit -- he had a weirdly chunky build in his torso that stuck out like a sore thumb. Timby fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Jul 6, 2017 |
# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:11 |
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This review alleviates most of the worries I had about Homecoming. The bolded part is extremely good to hear.quote:Review: Spider-Man: Homecoming is the best superhero movie of 2017
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:12 |
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Sounds like a book report.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:16 |
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Timby posted:Maguire suffered from having stunt doubles that were easily like 20 pounds more lithe than him, and also from some pretty rough CGI. It got a little better in Spider-Man 2, but especially in the first movie it's transparently obvious when it's not him in the suit -- he had a weirdly chunky build in his torso that stuck out like a sore thumb. They had to give him a digital tummy tuck in 3 because he just refused to work out for it.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:38 |
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The author of that Spidey Homecoming review is a Vox writer named Alex Abad-Santos, who you might know as the guy who wrote a review entitled Batman v Superman review: this movie is a crime against comic book fans This is not a slam on him, it just provides some context as to what he's looking for in a superhero movie.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:38 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:The author of that Spidey Homecoming review is a Vox writer named Alex Abad-Santos, who you might know as the guy who wrote a review entitled Batman v Superman review: this movie is a crime against comic book fans What about his other reviews? Does he have any inaccurate ones?
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:40 |
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Well there was that whole "piecing the bullet together" thing in TDK. I guess that's more forensics. I remember a lot of reviewers back when TDK came out making a big deal about how the movie was the first to finally remember that he's also the World's Greatest Detective. Also, man, I can't believe it's almost a decade since TDK came out.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:48 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:What about his other reviews? Does he have any inaccurate ones? That quip's so on-point it could be in a Joss Whedon movie.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:48 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:What about his other reviews? Does he have any inaccurate ones? It's a pretty bad review that says the worst part of the movie is when Batman does Crossfit...and that's bad because it won't logically help him beat Superman. Maybe you should actually read/see the stuff you're discussing. I certainly learned my lesson on that front with Lego Movie.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:54 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:It's a pretty bad review that says the worst part of the movie is when Batman does Crossfit...and that's bad because it won't logically help him beat Superman. Maybe if he trains long enough he can break his limits like Saitama and defeat Superman in one punch
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:59 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:It's a pretty bad review that says the worst part of the movie is when Batman does Crossfit...and that's bad because it won't logically help him beat Superman. Did we not watch the same film where Batman is wearing so much armor and carrying so much equipment he appears to be a bronze statue brought to life rather than a man in a suit?
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:04 |
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Barudak posted:Did we not watch the same film where Batman is wearing so much armor and carrying so much equipment he appears to be a bronze statue brought to life rather than a man in a suit? Shhhh. This is not important. What's important is that we signal to the thread, for the 1000th time, that we hate Batman v Superman. Even if it means defending a really bad review.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:09 |
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Chairman Capone posted:Also, man, I can't believe it's almost a decade since TDK came out. It's aging really poorly outside of Ledger and Oldman's performances, too. Roberts', too, I suppose. But it just feels so bloated when compared to Begins.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:19 |
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Timby posted:It's aging really poorly outside of Ledger and Oldman's performances, too. Roberts', too, I suppose. But it just feels so bloated when compared to Begins. I still really like all the random character actors in it.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:22 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I still really like all the random character actors in it. Oh, absolutely. Keith Szarabajka is always a delight, and then you've got people like Michael Jai White and Ron Dean showing up for bit parts (Dean as the corrupt cop is a fun reversal of his role as the CPD detective who's bloodthirsty for Kimble in The Fugitive). I'm always happy to see Nestor Carbonell and Melinda McGraw getting work, too.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:25 |
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Nolan resembles Hitchcock in no other way so much as his appreciation of character actors. Tom Wilkinson, for example, was perfect casting.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:29 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Nolan resembles Hitchcock in no other way so much as his appreciation of character actors. Tom Wilkinson, for example, was perfect casting. Matthew Modine in Rises, too. I had pretty much forgotten that Modine even existed and then he comes out of nowhere and makes the most of a garbage role.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:32 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Nolan resembles Hitchcock in no other way so much as his appreciation of character actors. Tom Wilkinson, for example, was perfect casting. Man, that meeting in the bar. Wilkinson kills it. It also can't be overstated how fun Cillian Murphy is in that trilogy.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:35 |
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LesterGroans posted:Man, that meeting in the bar. Wilkinson kills it. "You're taller than you look in the tabloids, Mr. Wayne." Sold me on his character right then and there.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:37 |
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Wilkinson's bored phony insanity is one of my faves, too. "Doc, I can't take it, the walls are closing in on me, yadda yadda yadda" while he rolls his eyes and drat near makes a jerk-off motion with his hand.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:38 |
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Stan Lee's wife died. 93, Married for 70 years.
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