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Givin posted:Not sure if you knew this but: Nope, wasn't aware! I'm still on my free 30 days. Started playing the day SB dropped.
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Cythereal posted:Would if I had the expansions and dark knight wasn't a tanking class. IMO even if you don't like tanking DRK is worth taking from 30-50 just for the job story
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Jul 7, 2017 04:33
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Tanking is Good, you feel Needed and Powerful and it is very Satisfying. Also tank jobs are very easy to actually play.
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Jul 7, 2017 04:36
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I don't like tanking much but Dark Knight is a really fun tanking class to play and feels super-satisfying.
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Jul 7, 2017 04:37
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Sade posted:Tanking is Good, you feel Needed and Powerful and it is very Satisfying. Also tank jobs are very easy to actually play. ImpAtom posted:I don't like tanking much but Dark Knight is a really fun tanking class to play and feels super-satisfying. Become Tank. Feel Joy. A Love to make you Beautiful.
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Jul 7, 2017 04:41
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I tanked some in HW as DRK and the thing that always annoyed me was that against bosses you're basically always doing a really simple combo. It's fun when you're pulling a shitload of mobs at once and hitting cooldowns in pairs just to stay alive, but given that the bosses actually hit less hard outside of savage/EX stuff it just felt boring. Same thing with healer DPSing.
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Jul 7, 2017 04:41
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Sade posted:Tanking is Good, you feel Needed and Powerful and it is very Satisfying. Also tank jobs are very easy to actually play. 
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Jul 7, 2017 04:47
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Cythereal do not tank in this game. I've seen your posts in the WoW subforum and people will be just as lovely here as they are there for doing single pulls in dungeons once you get to around level 50. Earlier too depending on group make-up since the only reason people don't do massive pulls at low levels is that lots of jobs don't get AE attacks until the 30's and 40's.
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Jul 7, 2017 04:52
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I always laugh at how many people completely missed the point of this statement and 1-30 Conjurer  (of course I guess SE doesn't really expect healers to do damage but let me have this)
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Jul 7, 2017 04:54
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Failboattootoot posted:Cythereal do not tank in this game. I've seen your posts in the WoW subforum and people will be just as lovely here as they are there for doing single pulls in dungeons once you get to around level 50. Earlier too depending on group make-up since the only reason people don't do massive pulls at low levels is that lots of jobs don't get AE attacks until the 30's and 40's. Yup, I played a gladiator to 15, went through the adventurer's guild tutorials, and decided nope this is not for me. I really do enjoy playing a healer and I don't mind dps (not that I'm an honest healer). Tanking just isn't for me - I realized my problem with tanking is that I'm a control freak, and I find tanking for pubbies stressful. Healing pubbies doesn't bother me as much.
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Jul 7, 2017 04:57
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Ciaphas posted:I always laugh at how many people completely missed the point of this statement and 1-30 Conjurer S-E could go whole hog on lore integration and give honest healers an uncleansable stacking debuff that persists across sessions and eventually deletes their character.
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Jul 7, 2017 04:59
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Kongming posted:The worst times I've ever had in an MMO is when everyone is too polite to tell someone they seriously suck poo poo and need to improve because they're holding everyone else back. Sometimes someone has to be the rear end in a top hat. It's me, I'm the poo poo player. I quit my static about 5 minutes before I was thrown out. That was as healer, and I wanted to try this cycle as a dps, but I'm not even ilvl 300 yet so whelp
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Jul 7, 2017 04:59
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Yo goons, when you hit the 70 MSQ trial, yell in FC chat to get a goon group, because pubbies seriously suck at it.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:02
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Philonius posted:My dream is still to find a group of people to raid once a week for at most 2 hours with. I can justify blocking that off in my schedule. Unfortunately most people who are actually competent at the game tend to want to raid more than that, and people who want the same laidback schedule can be hard to get to show up consistently. I kind of ran into the same thing since I enjoy the more challenging parts of the game, but I've found that with the Party Finder even the parties labeled as learning parties have a lot of people who don't actually handle learning or basic communication very well. So if anyone wants to run things no more than two nights a week and needs another healer, let me know 
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Jul 7, 2017 05:03
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dogsicle posted:S-E could go whole hog on lore integration and give honest healers an uncleansable stacking debuff that persists across sessions and eventually deletes their character. Hold up. I don't play healer, what's this about lore and healers needing to do damage or they die or something? Spoil me, I don't mind.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:05
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Fortuitous Bumble posted:I kind of ran into the same thing since I enjoy the more challenging parts of the game, but I've found that with the Party Finder even the parties labeled as learning parties have a lot of people who don't actually handle learning or basic communication very well. The problem is that people that can do the fight move on to farm parties leaving the same people that can't clear to keep putting up pfs expecting to get carried.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:06
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Sotar posted:Yo goons, when you hit the 70 MSQ trial, yell in FC chat to get a goon group, because pubbies seriously suck at it. I actually really enjoy helping bads out on Royal Menagerie. It's a fun fight and it's not too demanding on your DPS as long as you nail every single mechanic. I'm really excited for the Extreme version of that trial.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:06
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SKULL.GIF posted:Hold up. I don't play healer, what's this about lore and healers needing to do damage or they die or something? Spoil me, I don't mind. Part of the lore of the CNJ 1-30 quests is that Sylphie's mom was an honest healer that refused to ever use stone/water/air spells and so she wound up depleting her own life force, which killed her. Apparently casting DPS spells replenishes your life force or something, I don't remember.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:07
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SKULL.GIF posted:Hold up. I don't play healer, what's this about lore and healers needing to do damage or they die or something? Spoil me, I don't mind. Sylphie was super awesome at healing like her mother was but they had a fatal flaw of not communing with the elementals and borrowing their power so they healed with their own lifeforce instead. Sylphie's mom died like an idiot for this while Sylphie nearly did the same until you and your CNJ senpai both slap sense into her. It's a metaphor for "hey you know those elementally themed buttons like Aero and Stone? You should use those too."
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Jul 7, 2017 05:08
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SKULL.GIF posted:Hold up. I don't play healer, what's this about lore and healers needing to do damage or they die or something? Spoil me, I don't mind. Conjurers draw their aether from the elementals in and around the black shroud. The elementals apparently like blowing things up. The CNJ in the screenshot is a novice who doesn't want to draw on the elemental's aether because her mom healed people just fine without any of that! Until she died healing someone because if you don't draw on the elementals you draw on your own aether and eventually kill yourself. Moral of the story: wreck poo poo with stone and wind so you have their aether to heal with. edit: are we putting spoiler tags on the first couple hours of arr?
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Jul 7, 2017 05:10
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Renegret posted:
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Jul 7, 2017 05:10
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Farg posted:this guy loving rules if you don't say "to you!" and "to me!" over voice chat every time you do a tank swap i dont wish to know you
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Jul 7, 2017 05:11
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hobbesmaster posted:Conjurers draw their aether from the elementals in and around the black shroud. The elementals apparently like blowing things up. Eh, I just got in the habit of tagging things, I don't think anyone actually cares.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:16
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cheetah7071 posted:That sucks, I had 54 gathering ones saved up as vain progress towards the next book I think you can turn the blue scrip tokens into the i180 gear. I got my gatherer retainers some full sets of i200 gear this way. If you have some insane patience you could probably buy the jewelry and convert it into materia.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:19
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hobbesmaster posted:Conjurers draw their aether from the elementals in and around the black shroud. The elementals apparently like blowing things up. If they weren't so adamant against the idea of healers dpsing, they could give white mages a mechanic where damage spells enhance their healing abilities in some way to fit with this theme. That would be a lot more exciting than lilies.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:23
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Sylphie's Mom must've been a scrub. Red Mages use only their own internal aether just fine. Of course, they've spent a few hundred years developing techniques to use their body as a focus and accelerator, so what I'm trying to say is 
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Sylphie's Mom must've been a scrub. Red Mages use only their own internal aether just fine. Of course, they've spent a few hundred years developing techniques to use their body as a focus and accelerator, so what I'm trying to say is I thought RDM used their swords/crystals as their focus, not their bodies.
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I'm a casual but by being in several linkshells and keeping an eye on FC chat, I've gotten my Omega drops done with one group in one night, cleared LakEx a buncha times, and beat SusEx enough times to buy my RDM a rapier and get the BLM weapon as a drop. Get to know people and if you're good enough, they'll remember you.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I thought RDM used their swords/crystals as their focus, not their bodies. It's sorta both, though either one could be a metaphor - not a lot of time is spent on the actual physicality of spellcasting and more the significance of it being your own energy rather than the world's.
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Argas posted:I'm a casual but by being in several linkshells and keeping an eye on FC chat, I've gotten my Omega drops done with one group in one night, cleared LakEx a buncha times, and beat SusEx enough times to buy my RDM a rapier and get the BLM weapon as a drop. Get to know people and if you're good enough, they'll remember you. Networking... is good??
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homeless snail posted:Eureka is going to be incredibly good. Here's my evidence: Stormblood dungeons are great -> they're making one less dungeon on the patch that Eurkea will come out -> that missing dungeon energy will be transferred to Eureka via the law of energy transference -> Eureka is good. What is Eureka
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Sylphie hosed up because she was blowing off guild lessons to spam healing. The metaphor works for healer DPS but it's not meant to be a 1:1 taken as a whole. There's more to conjury than spamming heals and part of what the conjurer's guild teaches is to not gently caress yourself from healing.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:31
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Fister Roboto posted:If they weren't so adamant against the idea of healers dpsing, they could give white mages a mechanic where damage spells enhance their healing abilities in some way to fit with this theme. That would be a lot more exciting than lilies. Make stone proc lilies, maybe 20%. Bam, done.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:32
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hobbesmaster posted:Make stone proc lilies, maybe 20%. Bam, done. Make it so that only DPS spells proc lilies.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:33
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It doesn't matter what procs lilies until they make Lilies actually good instead of bad
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Jul 7, 2017 05:34
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I wish I didn't hate Plenary Indulgence more than Lilies to be honest. What a dumb stupid spell that is.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:36
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Countblanc posted:It doesn't matter what procs lilies until they make Lilies actually good instead of bad They might as well just make lily procs directly reduce the cool down on assize because that's what's going to consume them. Maybe asylum. PvP lilies reduce the cd of benediction to 60s and it's as good as it sounds.
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Jul 7, 2017 05:38
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Kalenn Istarion posted:What is Eureka
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Kalenn Istarion posted:What is Eureka it's an upcoming zone or series of zones or something that's intended to fill a similar niche to diadem, except presumably not boring/awful, and it'll be involved in upgrading the relic weapon - that's all we know right now efb god dammit
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Fister Roboto posted:If they weren't so adamant against the idea of healers dpsing, they could give white mages a mechanic where damage spells enhance their healing abilities in some way to fit with this theme. That would be a lot more exciting than lilies. They hate the idea of healers DPSing which is why this expansion made it more convenient to DPS as a healer and all the healers got upgrades to their basic offensive spells.
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