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EorayMel posted:If you don't use the kunai with a joker build to orally purge the evil from your disciple's soul before turning him over to the righteous side of crime, you're doing it wrong
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tweet my meat posted:What are the quickest and easiest heists to solo stealth? I enjoy playing with friends but am wanting to grind out some cash to start unlocking things. unfortunately playing solo is a dreadful slog that takes 90% of the fun out of the game so I just want to get the grind over with so I can get to a decent level to flesh out my skill tree and unlock guns.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:You can do Diamond Store solo stealth in ~12 minutes if you get it down to a science. Gives tons of XP and has a decent payout, too, I believe. Diamond store has become much less reliable on higher difficulties once they fixed a bug: the side door into the security room isn't always supposed to spawn.
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Discendo Vox posted:Diamond store has become much less reliable on higher difficulties once they fixed a bug: the side door into the security room isn't always supposed to spawn.
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maswastaken posted:This is where a saw, Stockholm Syndrome, ECMs that don't block pagers and some good cover game come into play. Then one of the security guards somehow squeezes off a shot and breaks one of the display cases. 
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clockworkjoe posted:What are the new rewards for crime spree? ~9 new armors (bicolor patterns) is all so far.
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tweet my meat posted:What are the quickest and easiest heists to solo stealth? I enjoy playing with friends but am wanting to grind out some cash to start unlocking things. unfortunately playing solo is a dreadful slog that takes 90% of the fun out of the game so I just want to get the grind over with so I can get to a decent level to flesh out my skill tree and unlock guns. For raw speed (quick completions means more card flips for mods/mask materials), Mallcrasher is the way to go. Bring grenades and you can trigger the helicopter within a minute and be out in under five. For easy solo cash? I'd go with Ukrainian Job. Jewelry Store isn't good since in that most of the bags are worth gently caress-all. Bank: Gold is probably a decent alternative - more cash, but takes a bit longer.
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Discendo Vox posted:~9 new armors (bicolor patterns) is all so far. is there a list and what spree levels you get them from?
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clockworkjoe posted:is there a list and what spree levels you get them from? I can't compile a list atm, but ther 's no order. The patterns drop one at a time every ~120 spree levels. Which you get is random but you get no duplicates. The fastest route is thus just to get to 1 armor from zero, end the spree to cash it in, and repeat.
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I can't wait for the week lock to pass so I can give you guys the weapons skins I'll never use that I've accumulated on my quest to get a Nitro skin for my CAR 4.
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juliuspringle posted:I can't wait for the week lock to pass so I can give you guys the weapons skins I'll never use that I've accumulated on my quest to get a Nitro skin for my CAR 4. sell them, buy the skin you want.
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Tempest_56 posted:For raw speed (quick completions means more card flips for mods/mask materials), Mallcrasher is the way to go. Bring grenades and you can trigger the helicopter within a minute and be out in under five.
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The metal detectors in Ukrainian aren't actually hardwired to alert the police- they just make an "alarm" sound that makes everyone in a wide radius uncool.
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Solo Stealth For Fun & Profit Jewelry Store/Ukrainian Job OD Diamond Store OD Election Day OD (the payoff's meh but the +20% stealth bonus to a Diamond Store or subsequent loud heist is worthwhile) Firestarter is a loud day and two solo-stealthable ones. Murky Station OD Shadow Raid OD (reward's poo poo for the time investment) Harvest & Trustee bank heists OD Car Shop  (no, don't actually do this)
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I agree with this. Mallcrasher isnt stealth but you can get it done so fast it doesnt matter, just let the bots and jokers distract the cops till the heli arrives. Key for surviving Mallcrasher: take Armorer, buy one can of gas and light up the fitness center. Once it's ablaze, duck behind the L-shaped counter and wait. The fire doesn't entirely reach there and cops can't/won't path to you because of the fire. You're basically 100% safe as long as you stay behind there. When the heli arrives, sprint for the exit that's about twenty yards away. Armorer gives you 2s of invulnerability, which is more than enough to get in the zone and trigger the escape even if you get downed immediately once you're there. (Of course since you're doing Mallcrasher for cards/Gage packages there's no real need to do it on high difficulty, but still this is drat near risk-free.)
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Tempest_56 posted:For raw speed (quick completions means more card flips for mods/mask materials), Mallcrasher is the way to go. Bring grenades and you can trigger the helicopter within a minute and be out in under five. Mallcrashers has the best XP/Time/Cash/Fun ratio - you should be able to reach 50K on your own within 30 seconds. Just walk right in, mask up, throw a Grenade into the shoe store, up the escalators and throw a second into the boltto (liquor store), then dash over to the pear store to throw your last grendade before getting your LMG rock and roll on at the skylights then any other assorted glass. A rocket launcher can speed up this process, my record is about 25 seconds solo from the start. Then you cower in the bag store until the chopper spawns, or just sprint around mowing down cops- Tempest_56 posted:Key for surviving Mallcrasher: take Armorer, buy one can of gas and light up the fitness center. Once it's ablaze, duck behind the L-shaped counter and wait. The fire doesn't entirely reach there and cops can't/won't path to you because of the fire. You're basically 100% safe as long as you stay behind there. Huh, neat. It's like when you could set one of the clothing stores on fire then stand on the counters and not be impacted by the fire. Rougey fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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chairface posted:Solo Stealth For Fun & Profit Don't forget Mallcrasher OD!
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gently caress Car Shop.
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The Car Shop escape is literally the developers being dicks just for the hell of it. After doing the hardest parts of the heist, in order to complete it you need to park in a container with lovely controls and then get out and go to the escape van. There is absolutely every chance that you can still fail despite having perfectly completed the actual stealth portions of the heist. Just end it when players reach the docks, after all they have already stolen the loving cars and this isn't a car parking simulator.
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What gets to me about Car Shop is how much better the rationale could have been for its failure state: make the time limit count down to when the car's ignition deactivates. The cars are very clearly protected by GenSec, so they would logically have some kind of remote disabling system.
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Yeah but on the other hand GenSec's keyboards are all one time use. Logical rationale is clearly not their forte.
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juliuspringle posted:gently caress Car Shop. I disagree, when I play that and to a greater extent goat simulator day 2 I get to fully reenact this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvonsFvHPp4&t=636s
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Rest in peace stealth flamethrower, we hardly knew ye.
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Me: *Kills 290 policemen in 15 minutes on the way to completing DW The Diamond* Random pubby (50 kills) at exp screen: That wasn't so hard.
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So what are the pro perk decks? I'm sticking to overkill until infamy 5 and hitman on overkill makes everything a breeze but no one else seems to like it. I feel like I'm constantly being chip damaged to death so having that guaranteed armor refill is the bees knees. I rarely go down.
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FalloutGod posted:So what are the pro perk decks? I'm sticking to overkill until infamy 5 and hitman on overkill makes everything a breeze but no one else seems to like it. I feel like I'm constantly being chip damaged to death so having that guaranteed armor refill is the bees knees. I rarely go down. Not Hitman. (Some people can make Hitman work but it's really not good for the average player.) Most stuff will work if you build properly for it, though a few decks are sub-par/inferior to another similar deck. Super short overview: Easy But Good: - Muscle is simple, good and easy to use. Basically the perfect newbie deck and still decent enough at higher levels. - Anarchist is great for turning ICTV into a near-literal tank, but really shines with a suit/LBV so you're running around at crazy speeds with ICTV-level armor. - Grinder is strictly light armor only, but it's solid for keeping you alive for doing things you were going to be anyway. - Burglar is the best for stealth, but really only good for stealth. Harder But Still Good: - Crook and Sicario are both great for dodge with a ballistic vest (LBV or HBV) and really shine with Hostage Taker and Sneaky Bastard. I think Sicario's better these days, but it needs a bit more care in smart use of the smoke grenade. - Infiltrator is a great tanky deck for close-range heists but loses a lot when caught in the open/long range - Crew Chief can be good, but you need to build for it and really succeeds best with a team made to work with it. - Gambler is a little dicey at times to use - it's a huge help for the team and can keep you going fine, but the need to run out into fire to get ammo pickups to not die can bite you in the rear end at times. - Biker is kind of a heavy armor Grinder. Requires a bit more care in building and is a bit weaker, but it works as a carry deck since it gives you health and armor off the whole team's murder sprees. - Kingpin is Muscle+. It needs a fair bit more care with timing, but you can get amazing results if you're smart with it. So-So: - Rogue is kinda generally worse than Crook/Sicario since you get a marginal dodge increase for significantly less armor. Slightly better odds for less margin of error, and it isn't a great tradeoff. Still strong on One Down, but that's because One Down is weird. - Armorer is kinda a slightly worse Anarchist. Can be better in specific circumstances, but generally not as good. - Sociopath, like Infiltrator, works best at close ranges. The downside is that it relies on you personally killing things at a fairly brisk pace and so drops off as you hit difficulties where fast killing is a problem. The panic is great, however. - Ex-President is basically Grinder but worse. More likely to get you killed and more likely to waste the healing. Basically mandatory to pair with Bullseye and Sneaky Bastard. - Maniac scales really poorly. 30 to 40-ish damage absorption is crazy powerful at mid-difficulties (and has great synergy with some other decks) but has issues at high level without assistance. Meh: - Hitman is functional. Basically demands Hostage Taker for higher difficulties and still isn't amazing then. Is far, far better than it used to be. Trash: - Yakuza is bad. Straight up bad. Chairface Tier: - Insert Crew Chief/Gambler/Maniac/* hype here. His setup does amazing things, but it's not really what you're asking for.
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FalloutGod posted:So what are the pro perk decks? I'm sticking to overkill until infamy 5 and hitman on overkill makes everything a breeze but no one else seems to like it. I feel like I'm constantly being chip damaged to death so having that guaranteed armor refill is the bees knees. I rarely go down. It depends on your build. I'm not up to speed on what the current hotness is, but Armorer is always a solid choice, Anarchist (used to) have some pro builds around it - but kind of a glass cannon if you ever lost armor. Dodge builds have a couple different ones, but I think recent changes affected those, anything I said would be speculation. Really though, for playing on OK, with a good squad or once you get used to the game pretty much any perk deck is viable. It's more a matter of understanding the various intricacies of each heist, knowing where cops are likely to spawn, and killing as fast as possible. Are you playing with bots, pubs, or goons?
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Can somebody give me a rundown on the revolvers? I love my bronco for pocket sniping and I tried out the castigo, but I can't hit poo poo with it and the reload sucks. Haven't tried the mateba yet. Played around with the peacemaker and I get great results for it... until I need to spend ages to reload. The longer reload times on those things are really painful for me and I don't notice any new thresholds being broken using the higher powered guns. I want to like them but... I can't. Although this is coming from a dude whose main playstyle is this with a minigun without any skills in pumping up pistols https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvonsFvHPp4&t=636s
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Bronco's better if you don't care about conceal because it's 8ish accuracy and 20ish better stability, if you want conceal at all costs you can mod the bronco to have like 70 accuracy and zero stab but 33 conceal. However of your good with like 98 accuracy and 32 stab with 28 conceal the Castigo shines. Don't use the Matver
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matever can put on a laser sight. also the reload is cool, but much longer than the bronco.
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Man Hoxout day 1 on One Down really is something. It's really just a series of shouting Inspire revives, Swan Songing, and placing Doctor Bags at crucial points all while moving the drat truck along. 
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TopHatGenius posted:Man Hoxout day 1 on One Down really is something. It's really just a series of shouting Inspire revives, Swan Songing, and placing Doctor Bags at crucial points all while moving the drat truck along. Get jokers immediately. They make all the difference in the world.
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TopHatGenius posted:Man Hoxout day 1 on One Down really is something. It's really just a series of shouting Inspire revives, Swan Songing, and placing Doctor Bags at crucial points all while moving the drat truck along. Sounds like a perfect replica of Hoxton Breakout on Deathwish back in the day.
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Discendo Vox posted:Get jokers immediately. They make all the difference in the world. I know but god drat soo many tasers. I can't count how many times I've tried to convert a cop just to get tased and instantly kill my hostage. And now I ALMOST beat day 1 but then I crashed.
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So what's the deal with perk decks? What are the good ones for various playstyles and are there any really fun gimmick ones?
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tweet my meat posted:So what's the deal with perk decks? What are the good ones for various playstyles and are there any really fun gimmick ones?
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Wow I don't know how I missed that.
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Question about anarchist, when you have the lose 50% hp for 100% armor and the 50% hp for 120% armor perks, do they stack or does it just take the highest one?
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