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gonadic io posted:I'm British and say zero day yeah i don't think i've ever heard anyone call it anything other than a zero day apart from right when the term first started gaining currency in the nineties (am i going completely senile or did it start in the warez scene?) when people would say oh-day. mind you anyone using internet jargon in speech sounds like a loving idiot no matter how they pronounce it
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gonadic io posted:I'm British and say zero day zed's dead baby
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Shifty Pony posted:so in short google could probably make android less of a privacy and security nightmare but they apparently dgaf about anything past ensuring they get first crack at collecting user data. i'm really not sure why anyone thinks anything google has ever done has ever been about anything other than this
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Jul 7, 2017 19:34
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yeah, pagerank was a long con
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Subjunctive posted:yeah, pagerank was a long con as soon as google decided they wanted to make money they became an advertising company
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goddamnedtwisto posted:i'm really not sure why anyone thinks anything google has ever done has ever been about anything other than this 
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Jul 7, 2017 19:59
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gonadic io posted:I'm British and say zero day you're not supposed to just go and blow up my cover like that 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:i'm really not sure why anyone thinks anything google has ever done has ever been about anything other than this adorable
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https://twitter.com/justin/status/883171036283285508
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hobbesmaster posted:google should probably come up with some sort of certification for crapware free like microsoft's "signature edition" laptops. It was going to be called Android Silver. The program was shut down after a grand total of zero manufacturers participated.
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mrmcd posted:sms_is_not_secure_2fa_part1000000.txt
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i genuinely thought this was a repost, wasn't there someone else complaining about the exact same thing a few months ago?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:i genuinely thought this was a repost, wasn't there someone else complaining about the exact same thing a few months ago? it's just another example of why sms 2fa is dumber than poo poo
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Jul 7, 2017 23:06
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just let us use our own rsa dongles already
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cinci zoo sniper posted:if you ever say it "zero day" to a british person you'll be laughed out into the loving oblivion. do you also "zero" when dictating a phone number with 0 in it? what
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Jul 7, 2017 23:26
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i hear it's pronounced zed-oh in canada
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i've literally never heard it pronounced anything other than zero day from english speaking peoples in the british isles as well as the colonies when you say "oh-day" i think of his brother qusay hussein
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Jul 7, 2017 23:36
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I guess that it's odd that you'd say zero for the number in most situations, but oh when dictating phone numbers
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Jul 7, 2017 23:45
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Language is weird
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jre posted:what that's what ive heard in europe the few times ive got to hear it,, and most of countries here stick to british english 
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:when you say "oh-day" i think of his brother qusay hussein
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i've only ever pronounced and heard it pronounced zero-day in real life, maybe actual scene hackers pronounce it differently but who cares
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cinci zoo sniper posted:that's what ive heard in europe the few times ive got to hear it,, and most of countries here stick to british english People saying oh-day ?
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jre posted:People saying oh-day ? yea
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nought-day
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quote:Dear Mr. Loaf barvo
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also 0-day makes me think of buh'weat
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as far as i know there aren't any national differences with oh vs. zero. zero is the name of the digit and the word for the exact value 0, and in pretty much every other situation where the digit is pronounced you say oh. so 500.09 is five hundred point oh nine, 1209 fifth street is twelve oh nine, and room 401 is four oh one. but the rules about pronouncing numbers are weird, like in addresses 1290 is twelve ninety and 410 is four ten, but in other contexts like phone numbers or id numbers they'd probably be one two nine oh and four one oh, unless they were actually counting something oh but nought is different, that's not used in american english outside of idioms
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rjmccall posted:as far as i know there aren't any national differences with oh vs. zero. zero is the name of the digit and the word for the exact value 0, and in pretty much every other situation where the digit is pronounced you say oh. so 500.09 is five hundred point oh nine, 1209 fifth street is twelve oh nine, and room 401 is four oh one. but the rules about pronouncing numbers are weird, like in addresses 1290 is twelve ninety and 410 is four ten, but in other contexts like phone numbers or id numbers they'd probably be one two nine oh and four one oh, unless they were actually counting something The idiom is naught. As in a synonym for nothing.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:yeah i don't think i've ever heard anyone call it anything other than a zero day apart from right when the term first started gaining currency in the nineties (am i going completely senile or did it start in the warez scene?) when people would say oh-day. it started in warez to denote a crack that was available the same day the software was released and made for mad bragging rights.
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Jul 8, 2017 02:23
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oh no, i used an archaic variant spelling of an almost equally archaic word
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Jul 8, 2017 02:32
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nowt you've done it
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did anyone else notice SA was down for two hours due to a bad SSL certificate
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ate all the Oreos posted:did anyone else notice SA was down for two hours due to a bad SSL certificate
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"oh" is sinokorean for 5 Not the native Korean counting system, where it's dasut, and not in actual Mandarin where it's wu3, just sinokorean
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ate all the Oreos posted:did anyone else notice SA was down for two hours due to a bad SSL certificate I noticed a cloudflare error page and assumed either the lovely old forums software or the lovely bad cdn software had poo poo the bed. Again.
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someone probably tried to turn on strict origin cert CN validation in cloudflare https://crt.sh/?id=168610427
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