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tweet my meat posted:Question about anarchist, when you have the lose 50% hp for 100% armor and the 50% hp for 120% armor perks, do they stack or does it just take the highest one? *Minimum. Please enjoy the bullshit health boosting effects of Crew Chief and Partners in Crime. maswastaken fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jul 8, 2017 |
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I tried a dodge build for the first time and its pretty fun. I got SMGs with crits and I just run around like Neo doing flips off walls and poo poo.
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Jul 8, 2017 03:28
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drat, I would have enjoyed running around with like 12.5% health and like 1000% armor, but that definitely makes more sense. I've been running a ITCV and suppressed LMG build and it's fun as poo poo being the guy who pretty much carries combat.
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Jul 8, 2017 04:14
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Man, was framing frame solo stealth always this difficult? loving day 3 and its invisible items. Either way I am loving glad I did that. Sweet, sweet +25% experience bonus
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FalloutGod posted:I tried a dodge build for the first time and its pretty fun. I got SMGs with crits and I just run around like Neo doing flips off walls and poo poo. Suit/LBV is amazing to feel after playing a lot of ICTV. I highly recommend trying a dodge (I usually use Crook or suit Anarchist) shotgun build - flying around at warp speed and obliterating entire spawn groups with an IZHMA barrage is an awesome feeling. (Though my go-to lazy build is Anarchist LBV/silenced JP36 for infinite ammo spray 'n' pray while nearly invincible.) EorayMel posted:Man, was framing frame solo stealth always this difficult? loving day 3 and its invisible items. Day 3 is super easy, though? It's all about patience. Kill four guards, wait on the roof for about 5m so the patroller leaves and boom. You've only got two guards left on the map. Use sensor tripmines and you'll know where they are almost 100% of the time. I think they may have even fixed that auto-fail state with the camera watching the one bookcase.
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FalloutGod posted:So what are the pro perk decks? I'm sticking to overkill until infamy 5 and hitman on overkill makes everything a breeze but no one else seems to like it. I feel like I'm constantly being chip damaged to death so having that guaranteed armor refill is the bees knees. I rarely go down. The last 3 sections are devoted entirely to perk decks. Hitman's VERY strong on overkill but comes up short on higher difficulties where the answer to the question "can cops blow through all my hp in the 1.5s it takes my armor to regen?" changes from "gently caress no" to "easily." Yakuza's probably the only perk deck that's outright bad, although Ex-Pres is also pretty bad and Hitman definitely suffers beyond Overkill, but otherwise there's a lot of good options with reasonable variety in playstyles supported. If you're sticking to overkill for a bit yet, another "very strong on overkill" choice that starts to lose some of its shine in higher diffs is Grinder, which regens hp based on dealing damage. On low difficulties (Mayhem and below) the hp returned is quite generous compared to the damage dealt by cops and can similarly make you feel outright invulnerable. Ex-Pres is a slight variation on the idea that gets scaled out of relevance sooner.
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Jul 8, 2017 07:57
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EorayMel posted:Man, was framing frame solo stealth always this difficult? loving day 3 and its invisible items. Framing Frame used to be easy as gently caress. Back in my day we had guards who didn't alert on broken cameras, and they didn't have fifth guard appear after you killed a certain number. Knock out four of them and dominate the fifth with no pager activation, then you just do the rest of the map and toss out a random group call "hey I've got FF day 3 done I just need people to help me move gold". The items have always been poo poo to find though.
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Jul 8, 2017 08:49
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Went to see Baby Driver last night, my ears perked up when they went to see a gun dealer named The Butcher, but was disappointed when it turned out to be a scrawny french dude.
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Jul 8, 2017 16:02
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chairface posted:The last 3 sections are devoted entirely to perk decks. Hitman's VERY strong on overkill but comes up short on higher difficulties where the answer to the question "can cops blow through all my hp in the 1.5s it takes my armor to regen?" changes from "gently caress no" to "easily." Hitman is viable on Deathwish these days, rather than being the complete waste of time that it was previously. Use ICTV to tank shots, take cover where needed, and devastate the enemy with armour-piercing akimbo SMGs with Aced Body Expertise. Odd as that might sound, it's a perk deck that makes you a glass cannon in heavy armour. But if just sticking to Overkill, even Yakuza is viable on Overkill.
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Jul 8, 2017 18:16
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What are some of the most fun and slightly gimmicky missions? I really love birth of sky and mallcrasher when I'm getting burned out on grinding murky station or the bank heists and I just wanna parachute out of a plane or blow up a mall. I could use a few more suggestions to add to my list of gently caress around missions.
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Jul 8, 2017 21:47
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HLM works for that, between blowing up a gas station and cooking meth because gently caress you that's why. beneath the mountain is also good for much the same reason birth of sky is.
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Jul 8, 2017 21:51
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Goat Simulator is the gimmickiest, seeing how some of the baggable loot on Day 1 will kick you in the face... but you said fun. Stealing Xmas has you actually steal Christmas at the end.
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Jul 8, 2017 21:51
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Biker Heist Day 1 can be annoying, but Day 2 is a rapid sprint through a moving train filled with enemies to steal top secret military hardware. Meltdown has you steal nuclear warheads, and it's fun until driving section at the end.
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Jul 9, 2017 03:08
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Biker Heist day 2 would be an awesome one day low stakes heist. The first day is definitely a little annoying though. I still really enjoyed it though.
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Jul 9, 2017 03:55
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Tempest_56 posted:I think they may have even fixed that auto-fail state with the camera watching the one bookcase. Yeah, it's fixed. There's very little significant gameplay-harming bugs left in payday 2. Aside from, you know, the design.
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Jul 9, 2017 04:49
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Is 25 detection rate the breakpoint I need to hit for dodge builds? I think the crit chance and sneaky bastard both cap out at 25 detection but are there any others that benefit from going even lower?
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Jul 9, 2017 18:18
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tweet my meat posted:Is 25 detection rate the breakpoint I need to hit for dodge builds? I think the crit chance and sneaky bastard both cap out at 25 detection but are there any others that benefit from going even lower?
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Jul 9, 2017 18:27
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yeah, so mathematically the breakpoints are 25 and 5, however because payday, those detection numbers don't actually exist, instead changing the breakpoints to 23 and 4. Personally I recommend going all the way down to 4 and thus saving the skill points you'd otherwise have to spend acing SB & LB. 4 is easily achievable with very competent weapons loadouts thanks to the existence of the 5/7; a handgun that pierces like a sniping rifle. With the 5/7 to cover counter-sniper and anti-shield duties, the primary slot's got tons of good options capable of getting you down to 4 detection. Silenced izhma, silenced car-4 and silenced akimbo handguns are the three options I tend towards. Crits make any weapon a whole lot better, and notably with akimbo chimano compacts and a 5/7, you can get down to 4 detection in HBV allowing hilarious Hitman and Crook builds.
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Jul 9, 2017 22:07
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Car-4 can get you down to 4 conceal without the silencer conceal boost skill too if you want to save the most points
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Ok so I spent a couple dollars on safes during the summer sale trying (and succeeding to some degree) to get a particular skin for my Car-4. As such I have a handful of skins I have no interest in. So as not to clog up this thread message me on steam and tell me which one you want because I want to clean up my inventory and I can't be bothered to try to flip the things. http://steamcommunity.com/id/juliuspringle/ THE JUDGE SHOTGUN | Dynamite, Broken-In THE JUDGE SHOTGUN | Dynamite, Battle-Worn PEACEMAKER .45 REVOLVER | Engraving, Well-Used (I have TWO of this one) COMPACT-5 SUBMACHINE GUN | Failsafe, Lightly-Marked ARBITER GRENADE LAUNCHER | Last Man Standing, Lightly-Marked ARBITER GRENADE LAUNCHER | Last Man Standing, Well-Used ARBITER GRENADE LAUNCHER | Last Man Standing, Battle-Worn (TWO of these as well) LIGHT CROSSBOW | Modernized, Mint-Condition LIGHT CROSSBOW | Modernized, Broken-In CONTRACTOR .308 SNIPER RIFLE | Frenzy, Well-Used THANATOS .50 CAL SNIPER RIFLE | Greed, Mint-Condition, Stat Boost (Stat Boost: +4 Stability) THANATOS .50 CAL SNIPER RIFLE | Greed, Lightly-Marked (TWO of these) THANATOS .50 CAL SNIPER RIFLE | Greed, Battle-Worn KROSS VERTEX SUBMACHINE GUN | Crescent, Well-Used, Stat Boost (Stat Boost: +4 Accuracy) STEAKOUT 12G SHOTGUN | Powerhouse, Lightly-Marked, Stat Boost (Stat Boost: -4 Accuracy)GONE juliuspringle fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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Jul 10, 2017 21:09
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juliuspringle posted:Ok so I spent a couple dollars on safes during the summer sale trying (and succeeding to some degree) to get a particular skin for my Car-4. As such I have a handful of skins I have no interest in. So as not to clog up this thread message me on steam and tell me which one you want because I want to clean up my inventory and I can't be bothered to try to flip the things. Were you getting an error after every safe that required you to back out and go back into Steam Inventory otherwise it failed opening the safe?
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Jul 10, 2017 21:44
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Malek posted:Were you getting an error after every safe that required you to back out and go back into Steam Inventory otherwise it failed opening the safe? If it played through the animation there's a good chance it opened anyway and the contents show up in your inventory. This error can also happen if you use a URL to bulk buy drills instead of buying them one at a time.  Also gonna echo the earlier sentiment that you should have just directly bought the one you wanted instead of gambling but it's cool you're giving your extras away.
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Jul 10, 2017 21:49
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UnknownMercenary posted:If it played through the animation there's a good chance it opened anyway and the contents show up in your inventory. This error can also happen if you use a URL to bulk buy drills instead of buying them one at a time. I just checked to give current info the Well Used Nitro Car 4 skin with stat boost I ended up getting (I just wanted some version I didn't care about condition or stat boosts) was $5 something minimum when I got it in a safe during the sale but now the cheapest Well Used stat boost one on the community marketplace is $8 something which is what I Mint Condition non stat boost started at during the sale. Figured there was probably someone that would get use out of my castoffs. Gambling seemed and turned out to be apparently cheaper. At one point I had a buy order for 6 Community Safe 3 at twenty cents each that surprisingly (to me at least) went through.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:11
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edit:ok with a slightly cooler head now. I was essentially lagged out of the game. Other players saw me standing still off in the distance while playing aftershock but I was actually moving around. I couldn't interact with anything that required the interact button or throw anything but i could shoot run jump etc. Cops did not aggro me at all but I could kill them. I eventually got kicked after trying to communicate this but I don't think they could read my messages either. Is this a known bug? tweet my meat fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Jul 11, 2017 |
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Jul 11, 2017 06:37
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tweet my meat posted:edit:ok with a slightly cooler head now. I was essentially lagged out of the game. Other players saw me standing still off in the distance while playing aftershock but I was actually moving around. I couldn't interact with anything that required the interact button or throw anything but i could shoot run jump etc. Cops did not aggro me at all but I could kill them. I eventually got kicked after trying to communicate this but I don't think they could read my messages either. It sounds like you got lagged out of the game due to a network hiccup or whatever.
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drat, does that happen often? Because I lost about 30 minutes of grueling pubbie play to that.
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tweet my meat posted:drat, does that happen often? Because I lost about 30 minutes of grueling pubbie play to that. Are you on console or PC? it could've happened on your end or the hosts & I have no idea how any of that works on console. Regardless, it sucks but it happens.
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Jul 11, 2017 06:56
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PC. I would think the hosts end because I have a pretty solid connection, oh well there's always another terrible pubbie game to join.
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tweet my meat posted:edit:ok with a slightly cooler head now. I was essentially lagged out of the game. Other players saw me standing still off in the distance while playing aftershock but I was actually moving around. I couldn't interact with anything that required the interact button or throw anything but i could shoot run jump etc. Cops did not aggro me at all but I could kill them. I eventually got kicked after trying to communicate this but I don't think they could read my messages either. I've had a very similar occurrence before, it's definitely a network related issue. Possibly not even on your end since Payday has some quirky networking - I think when I had it one of the others in my game was playing during a thunderstorm and my traffic was being routed through him, and everything was magically resolved when he got dropped.
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I absolutely love light armor anarchist builds. It gives me a ton of freedom in weapon choice while still letting me be light on my feet. I went with bullseye/iron man/die hard to help boost the armor and armor gain from anarchist a bit more and body expertise/silencer skills to boost damage. I've been more than pulling my weight on very hard and even a few overkill games with this setup. It also works with CTV or HBV if I feel like swapping out for a heavier loadout for a defense based mission like safe house raid, though I held off on acing iron man to save points to make the build a bit more general purpose, so no ICTV. Honestly an ICTV would just be overkill on this thing. Why do people use decks other than anarchist again?
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tweet my meat posted:Why do people use decks other than anarchist again? Because other decks are objectively better? I used to be big on anarchist frenzy which is still viable but it's not the end all solution. Muscle, especially for OD is more viable with the health regeneration and threat and I use the grinder deck for my crit fire build. Just no point in it with anarchist. Anarchist is good for an armor gimmick but unless you have someone with cupcakes or gambler, hovering at the low health point isn't helpful. Plus the lack of a full armor regeneration doesn't help either. In OD, you will get chewed up easily and it will take ten plus minutes to get your armor up so you can take just a single bullet.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:38
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Malek posted:I use the grinder deck for my crit fire build. Just no point in it with anarchist. My Flames of Love keep the cops warm at night.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:55
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Malek posted:Because other decks are objectively better? Fair enough, I mostly play on overkill or very hard and I can see how armor builds would get destroyed with the ridiculous amounts of damage on OD. It's definitely still my favorite deck of what I've played.
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I don't see how muscle or grinder works on one down when cops do so much damage so often. I can see it working on deathwish but on one down that's a DPS race I could never see going in your favour. And first aid kits are the most counter productive deployable to bring with anarchist builds. A good defense is a good offense: frenzerk that poo poo, gently caress first aid because they'll always be third rate compared to doctor bags.
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UnknownMercenary posted:I don't see how muscle or grinder works on one down when cops do so much damage so often. It didn't so much work as I survived long enough. Most of the turrets have a different story to tell.
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my hot take: muscle can work ok on one down but there are better options those options require me to know more about the game than i'm willing to pick up at this juncture tho
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Jul 12, 2017 00:23
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Malek posted:Were you getting an error after every safe that required you to back out and go back into Steam Inventory otherwise it failed opening the safe? Hey sorry I misinterpreted what you said before. I had change from some cards so I bought a few more cheap safes (actually got one I liked so started dicking around with akimbo deagles and some skill tweaks but that's all unimportant) and one time I did try to open a second one without backing out today and it failed to open. The other day I just kept backing out to steam inventory because I thought you had to. It seems to work fine as long as you go back to the inventory between safes to click the little thing acknowledging what you got from the safe.
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Jul 12, 2017 00:32
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Can one of you folks post a loud build that I can give to my idiot friends to shoot cops/level up with? I am level 60 with some shotgun + the fancy armor suit but I still don't know what the heck so I just put them on the road to the really big armor suit + armor/health perk decks.
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Jbz posted:Can one of you folks post a loud build that I can give to my idiot friends to shoot cops/level up with? I am level 60 with some shotgun + the fancy armor suit but I still don't know what the heck so I just put them on the road to the really big armor suit + armor/health perk decks. Here's a level 40 thing: http://pd2tools.com/l/e1f3591497405da2175f37f7e732722d Level 50: http://pd2tools.com/l/5a2a9c0ccd3500ef0c1bfa0d83b5ccb1 Level 64: http://pd2tools.com/l/8cefaca5af230316242d0b3c3994b04f Level 74: http://pd2tools.com/l/3f2c05abcb3e9bd27dfe6b9e598d3a11 ...let's just finish this Level 100: http://pd2tools.com/l/c76f132b0b313018d698c2ebd5d5ae4a It's just ICTV and two ammo (not completely upgraded) bags and the assumption of using assault rifles and SMGs. It gets converting cops, drill skills and better ammo bags along the way. It uses Muscle, because of course it does.
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Tell your friends to hop on the anarchist express with me all the way to 100.
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