Trump Thread II: The man make a tweet

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farraday: Jan 10, 2007; Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

Based on timing and the existence of the new Trump Jr statement I think this is probably an intentional leak, or at the very least something they knew would leak immediately because they had an official response ready to go.

Of course going from:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/884154042456428545

to:

https://twitter.com/KFaulders/status/884154663859347456

is raising more than a few eyebrows.

farraday fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Jul 9, 2017

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:06

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Bar Ran Dun: Jan 22, 2006

khwarezm posted:

People in the Russian interference thread still complaining about this being a story, lmao.

When I read those posts in the back of my mind Bill Murray goes: "It's true, this man has no dick".

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:07

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

farraday posted:

Based on timing and the existence of the new Trump Jr statement I think this is probably an intentional leak, or at the very least something they knew would leak immediately because they had an official response ready to go.

Of course going from:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/884154042456428545

to:

https://twitter.com/KFaulders/status/884154663859347456

is raising more than a few eyebrows.

Real news orgs generally reach out to people involved in stories for comment before they get published, so its not a shock that they had statements ready to go

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:08

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

farraday posted:

Based on timing and the existence of the new Trump Jr statement I think this is probably an intentional leak, or at the very least something they knew would leak immediately because they had an official response ready to go.

Of course going from:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/884154042456428545

to:

https://twitter.com/KFaulders/status/884154663859347456

is raising more than a few eyebrows.

So I was fooled into a meeting on the pretext that Russians had useful info to hurt Hillary, but really she just wanted to talk about adoption reform, which was the reason I attended the meeting :psyduck:

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:10

farraday: Jan 10, 2007; Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

The Glumslinger posted:

Real news orgs generally reach out to people involved in stories for comment before they get published, so its not a shock that they had statements ready to go

Its not a shock to you that the Trump administration had an official statement prepared for a breaking news story? Where have you been?

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:10

empty whippet box: Jun 9, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Unless posted:

DEAR GOD WILL IT MATTER YETTTTTTTTTT

Trump�s Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton

This seems like an incredibly big deal. Isn't this the smoking gun?

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:10

RasperFat: Jul 11, 2006; Uncertainty is inherently unsustainable. Eventually, everything either is or isn't.

farraday posted:

Based on timing and the existence of the new Trump Jr statement I think this is probably an intentional leak, or at the very least something they knew would leak immediately because they had an official response ready to go.

Of course going from:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/884154042456428545

to:

https://twitter.com/KFaulders/status/884154663859347456

is raising more than a few eyebrows.

Even if they are doing preemptive damage control, it still sets another brick in the prison they are building themselves.

Also dropped early enough to make prime time news on the East Coast. :unsmigghh:

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:10

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

farraday posted:

Its not a shock to you that the Trump administration had an official statement prepared for a breaking news story? Where have you been?

I mean, they've been hiring a shitload of lawyers, one of them has to be capable of spinning bullshit

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:10

A Shitty Reporter: Oct 29, 2012; Dinosaur Gum

Xae posted:

Just the broke brained tankies.

Wasn't like a part of NuD&D supposed to be less low effort tankie poo poo posting driving out everyone who didn't join the circle jerk?

That sort of thing would require much prompter moderation and a willingness to put in the work to keep controversial threads open. For some reason a lot or even most of the mods for D&D are on Europe time, so that's being pretty hopeful. :sigh:

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:11

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

empty whippet box posted:

This seems like an incredibly big deal. Isn't this the smoking gun?

Its one of them, but yeah, this is big stuff. This isn't proof of collusion, but it certainly shows an eagerness to collude and helps destroy more of their denials and excuses

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:11

empty whippet box: Jun 9, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

The Glumslinger posted:

Its one of them, but yeah, this is big stuff. This isn't proof of collusion, but it certainly shows an eagerness to collude and helps destroy more of their denials and excuses

It shows intent. They had obvious motive and this proves intent.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:14

Groovelord Neato: Dec 6, 2014

i feel like my brain would melt if i lied as much as these people.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:14

BlueberryCanary: Mar 18, 2016

Groovelord Neato posted:

i feel like my brain would melt if i lied as much as these people.

I think you're confusing cause and effect.

You have to have molten brains to lie this much.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:16

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

empty whippet box posted:

It shows intent. They had obvious motive and this proves intent.

I agree completely, but the smoking gun would be a meeting like this that wasn't with someone who was bullshitting. In a sane universe, this would be enough, but we clearly don't live in one of those

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:16

farraday: Jan 10, 2007; Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

I feel like this is a much bigger problem for Manafort and Kushner which is why this line is in there.

"I asked Jared and Paul to attend, but told them nothing of the substance."

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:20

KickerOfMice: Jun 7, 2017; [/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

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The Glumslinger posted:

So I was fooled into a meeting on the pretext that Russians had useful info to hurt Hillary, but really she just wanted to talk about adoption reform, which was the reason I attended the meeting

That's a loop-de-loop of shabbily taped-together lies! wth

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:32

Throwing Turtles: May 3, 2015

empty whippet box posted:

This seems like an incredibly big deal. Isn't this the smoking gun?

Have you ever thought that the gun is on fire, probably a fire started by gun hating libtards?

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:33

CuddleCryptid: Jan 11, 2013; Things could be going better

Looking in my crystal ball, I predict a future where right wing media says the meeting was a good thing because they were trying to take down the evil Killary Hitler-ton.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:33

Sulphagnist: Oct 10, 2006; WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

One interesting question is who is the "acquaintance" who acted as the go-between. Carter Page? Paul Manafort?

Donald Junior is exactly stupid enough to both arrange this kind of meeting and then incriminate himself about it afterwards. He should get his own lawyer if he doesn't already.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:36

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Phoix posted:

Trump Jr. says he invited Manafort and Kushner without telling them what the meeting was about so it seems like he's being told to jump in front of the bus.

I think it's that the NYT has a relatively complete account of the meeting, possibly via the NY FBI office, and has released parts of the story to repeatedly catch admin members in lies about what happened.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:37

Ague Proof: Jun 5, 2014; they told me
I was everything

This was clearly important as they knew not to invite Eric.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:37

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/884163201293856770

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:42

KickerOfMice: Jun 7, 2017; [/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

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Ague Proof posted:

This was clearly important as they knew not to invite Eric.

I am not sure why, but this will never get old for me. He's just heinously ugly, in every sense of that phrase.

And the American Psycho hair?

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:42

Dmitri-9: Nov 30, 2004; There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

farraday posted:

I feel like this is a much bigger problem for Manafort and Kushner which is why this line is in there.

"I asked Jared and Paul to attend, but told them nothing of the substance."

Kushner lied on his security clearance forms it doesn't matter if he initially didn't know what the meeting was for.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:44

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

_{*Israeli Government-affiliated poster}

NYT just posted a new story with sources saying that Donald Trump Jr. met with a Kremlin lawyer "after being promised damaging information on Hillary Clinton." :siren:

President Trump's lawyer says that he did not attend the meeting, had no knowledge of the meeting, and believes that Trump Jr's account is accurate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html

quote:

Trump�s Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton

President Trump�s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign, according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.

The meeting was also attended by his campaign chairman at the time, Paul J. Manafort, and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Mr. Manafort and Mr. Kushner only recently disclosed the meeting, though not its content, in confidential government documents described to The New York Times.

The Times reported the existence of the meeting on Saturday. But in subsequent interviews, the advisers and others revealed the motivation behind it.

The meeting � at Trump Tower on June 9, 2016, two weeks after Donald J. Trump clinched the Republican nomination � points to the central question in federal investigations of the Kremlin�s meddling in the presidential election: whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. The accounts of the meeting represent the first public indication that at least some in the campaign were willing to accept Russian help.

And while President Trump has been dogged by revelations of undisclosed meetings between his associates and the Russians, the episode at Trump Tower is the first such confirmed private meeting involving members of his inner circle during the campaign � as well as the first one known to have included his eldest son. It came at an inflection point in the campaign, when Donald Trump Jr., who served as an adviser and a surrogate, was ascendant and Mr. Manafort was consolidating power.

It is unclear whether the Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, actually produced the promised compromising information about Mrs. Clinton. But the people interviewed by The Times about the meeting said the expectation was that she would do so.

In a statement on Sunday, Donald Trump Jr. said he had met with the Russian lawyer at the request of an acquaintance. �After pleasantries were exchanged,� he said, �the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.�

He said she then turned the conversation to adoption of Russian children and the Magnitsky Act, an American law that blacklists suspected Russian human rights abusers. The law so enraged President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia that he retaliated by halting American adoptions of Russian children.

�It became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting,� Mr. Trump said.

When he was first asked about the meeting on Saturday, he said only that it was primarily about adoptions and mentioned nothing about Mrs. Clinton.

Mark Corallo, a spokesman for the president�s lawyer, said on Sunday that �the president was not aware of and did not attend the meeting.�

Lawyers and spokesmen for Mr. Kushner and Mr. Manafort did not immediately respond to requests for comment. In his statement, Donald Trump Jr. said he asked Mr. Manafort and Mr. Kushner to attend, but did not tell them what the meeting was about.

American intelligence agencies have concluded that Russian hackers and propagandists worked to tip the election toward Donald J. Trump, in part by stealing and then providing to WikiLeaks internal Democratic Party and Clinton campaign emails that were embarrassing to Mrs. Clinton. WikiLeaks began releasing the material on July 22.

A special prosecutor and congressional committees are now investigating the Trump campaign�s possible collusion with the Russians. Mr. Trump has disputed that, but the investigation has cast a shadow over his administration.

Mr. Trump has also equivocated on whether the Russians were solely responsible for the hacking. On Sunday, two days after his first meeting as president with Mr. Putin, Mr. Trump said in a Twitter post: �I strongly pressed President Putin twice about Russian meddling in our election. He vehemently denied it. I�ve already given my opinion.....� He also tweeted that they had �discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded...��

On Sunday morning on Fox News, the White House chief of staff, Reince Priebus, described the Trump Tower meeting as a �big nothing burger.�

�Talking about issues of foreign policy, issues related to our place in the world, issues important to the American people is not unusual,� he said.

But Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, the leading Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, one of the panels investigating Russian election interference, said he wanted to question �everyone that was at that meeting.�

�There�s no reason for this Russian government advocate to be meeting with Paul Manafort or with Mr. Kushner or the president�s son if it wasn�t about the campaign and Russia policy,� Mr. Schiff said after the initial Times report.

Ms. Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer invited to the Trump Tower meeting, is best known for mounting a multipronged attack against the Magnitsky Act.

The adoption impasse is a frequently used talking point for opponents of the act. Ms. Veselnitskaya�s campaign against the law has also included attempts to discredit the man after whom it was named, Sergei L. Magnitsky, a lawyer and auditor who died in 2009 in mysterious circumstances in a Russian prison after exposing one of the biggest corruption scandals during Mr. Putin�s rule.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:47

Calaveron: Aug 7, 2006

Uh oh, looks like papa trump's gonna pull out the ol' baseball jersey

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:50

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

the statement in response is hilarious.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/884164341649600512

right - you took a "20 to 30" minute meeting with a woman you had no idea who she was or what she wanted, invited kushner and manafort to join, because an associate from 2013 asked you nicely.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:52

Party Plane Jones: Jul 1, 2007; by Reene; Fun Shoe

skylined! posted:

right - you took a "20 to 30" minute meeting with a woman you had no idea who she was or what she wanted, invited kushner and manafort to join, because an associate from 2013 asked you nicely.

To be honest this sounds like the starting plot to a bad Russian ~~piss tape~~ porno.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:54

Spiffster: Oct 7, 2009; I'm good... I Haven't slept for a solid 83 hours, but yeah... I'm good...; Lipstick Apathy

Will it matter? That is the question...
(Cues upbeat jazz music)
it won't

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:57

OddObserver: Apr 3, 2009

skylined! posted:

the statement in response is hilarious.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/884164341649600512

right - you took a "20 to 30" minute meeting with a woman you had no idea who she was or what she wanted, invited kushner and manafort to join, because an associate from 2013 asked you nicely.

Also, important to remember that while Trump's mini-mes are pretty dumb, Manafort likely isn't (just thoroughly evil).

# ? Jul 9, 2017 22:58

Ague Proof: Jun 5, 2014; they told me
I was everything

skylined! posted:

the statement in response is hilarious.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/884164341649600512

right - you took a "20 to 30" minute meeting with a woman you had no idea who she was or what she wanted, invited kushner and manafort to join, because an associate from 2013 asked you nicely.

Would that be this Miss Universe Pageant?

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/347191326112112640?lang=en

# ? Jul 9, 2017 23:00

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

Wark Say posted:

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I'm thinking that you said "Hurry the gently caress up, Mueller" because you think that once Easy D returns, he's gonna fire Mueller...

... but wouldn't firing Mueller be seen as a very unsubtle clue that Donald (or people really close to him; the Kushners, mostly) is guilty as gently caress?

As much as firing Comey
Will it mean anything to the party in power? Absolutely loving not

# ? Jul 9, 2017 23:01

Rincewinds: Jul 30, 2014; MEAT IS MEAT

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

http://i.imgur.com/IXAnNPF.gifv this might be the only small act of kindness I've seen from him.

Meh, Donald is probably trying to be genuinely nice, and all I can think is that he reminds me of how Yeltsin behaved when drunk.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 23:01

Gynocentric Regime: Jun 9, 2010; by Cyrano4747

empty whippet box posted:

This seems like an incredibly big deal. Isn't this the smoking gun?

# ? Jul 9, 2017 23:02

Sulphagnist: Oct 10, 2006; WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Junior's defence is literally that he thought the contact had the goods on Clinton but didn't so it's cool.

# ? Jul 9, 2017 23:04

STAC Goat: Mar 12, 2008; Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Wait, so the story went from "We weren't doing anything sketchy, we were just talking about some adoption stuff" to "she promised us dirt on Clinton but she just wanted to talk about some adoption stuff"?

Are the Trumps even aware of what they're being accused of?

# ? Jul 9, 2017 23:04

Spiffster: Oct 7, 2009; I'm good... I Haven't slept for a solid 83 hours, but yeah... I'm good...; Lipstick Apathy

STAC Goat posted:

Wait, so the story went from "We weren't doing anything sketchy, we were just talking about some adoption stuff" to "she promised us dirt on Clinton but she just wanted to talk about some adoption stuff"?

Are the Trumps even aware of what they're being accused of?

Being aware of things isn't what got them to the White House so why start now?

# ? Jul 9, 2017 23:06

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Looking in my crystal ball, I predict a future where right wing media says the meeting was a good thing because they were trying to take down the evil Killary Hitler-ton.

It's always amazing watching the right praise and defend Russian ties with the POTUS, but at the same time lynched Hillary for that Russian/Canadian uranium deal she had nothing to really do with

# ? Jul 9, 2017 23:12

Agents are GO!: Dec 29, 2004

I won't truly accept the worth of this story until a few more people post it.

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awesmoe: Nov 30, 2005; Pillbug

STAC Goat posted:

Wait, so the story went from "We weren't doing anything sketchy, we were just talking about some adoption stuff" to "she promised us dirt on Clinton but she just wanted to talk about some adoption stuff"?

Are the Trumps even aware of what they're being accused of?

You have to remember that jr is really, really dumb

# ? Jul 9, 2017 23:14

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