Trump Thread II: The man make a tweet

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pillsburysoldier: Feb 11, 2008; Yo, peep that shit

https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/884558341002993665

# ? Jul 11, 2017 01:23

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# ? May 26, 2024 22:55

Dapper_Swindler: Feb 14, 2012; Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Gen. Ripper posted:

Which, funnily enough, is the exact same accusation they level at "Third Way"/"bad Dems" (i.e. any Democrat who is either to the right of Our Dear Bernie, or commits the unforgivable sin of being (((coastal elitists))) by living in California/New York); just with "the Russian interference helped bring him down" ctrl+f replaced with "they went left".

i kinda get what they are saying and i sorta feel this way. they are afraid that trump being a traitor and possibly a cheat will give the dems an out from self improvement and moving left ward. clinton was a poo poo canidate(idk if bernie would have one, but i think biden would have) and the dems need to make real offers other then "we arnt as bad as the GOP". and the dems have no real message other then double down on the same poo poo and try shaming people over poo poo. that being said, i want trump and hopefully the GOP to get extreamly hosed over this poo poo if it comes out as all true.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 01:26

SubG: Aug 19, 2004; It's a hard world for little things.

Spaced God posted:

https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/884538944305713152

lmbo

In five years the ~~Corleone~~ Trump family is going to be completely legitimate. Trust me.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 01:28

PhazonLink: Jul 17, 2010

Hollismason posted:

Ferrets are cool pets. I rescued a ferret from a heroin addict well rescue is the wrong word. I stole a ferret from a heroin addict. Then one of my roommates left a window open and no more ferret.

Reminder that lovely NYC mayor Rudy had a live radio fight with a ferret owner.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 01:28

goethe.cx: Apr 23, 2014

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i kinda get what they are saying and i sorta feel this way. they are afraid that trump being a traitor and possibly a cheat will give the dems an out from self improvement and moving left ward. clinton was a poo poo canidate(idk if bernie would have one, but i think biden would have) and the dems need to make real offers other then "we arnt as bad as the GOP". and the dems have no real message other then double down on the same poo poo and try shaming people over poo poo. that being said, i want trump and hopefully the GOP to get extreamly hosed over this poo poo if it comes out as all true.

I think this is key. The Dems already have plenty of progressive positions that people would be happy to vote for. The problem, at least with Clinton, is that she didn't run on those things, she ran on "Trump bad." The next Dem candidate needs a message highlighting the positive things they're going to do for people, since, sadly, "look at this rear end in a top hat" doesn't get votes

# ? Jul 11, 2017 01:32

Paradoxish: Dec 19, 2003; Will you stop going crazy in there?

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i kinda get what they are saying and i sorta feel this way. they are afraid that trump being a traitor and possibly a cheat will give the dems an out from self improvement and moving left ward. clinton was a poo poo canidate(idk if bernie would have one, but i think biden would have) and the dems need to make real offers other then "we arnt as bad as the GOP". and the dems have no real message other then double down on the same poo poo and try shaming people over poo poo. that being said, i want trump and hopefully the GOP to get extreamly hosed over this poo poo if it comes out as all true.

The whole argument is obnoxious as hell because people on both sides are coming from a blatantly cynical and political place. Democrats who are happy with the centrist/establishment wing of the party having more control see a Trump administration implosion as a way to continue to focus on process over policy, while Democrats that are part of the leftist wing see a slow rolling disaster as a way to force policy into the spotlight. There's nowhere for the discussion to go except around in circles because no one is actually interested in finding any kind of common ground.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 01:37

Nothus: Feb 22, 2001; Buglord

DreamShipWrecked posted:

More RightWing.txt than Trump, the NRA has released a massive cop out over the shooting of Philandro Castille

http://reason.com/blog/2017/07/10/nra-breaks-silence-on-philando-castile-s

Huh, the NRA wringing it's hands furiously while weaseling out of supporting a black gun owner murdered for exercising his rights? Quelle surprise.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 01:38

Robot Hobo: May 18, 2002; robothobo.com

pillsburysoldier posted:

https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/884558341002993665

I hate Mitch McConnell's face so much. He's held it in a look of smug self-satisfaction so constantly that it's built up the muscles of his face in such a way that now no other expressions are possible. He's like he's a kid sneaking cookies out of a cookie jar when Mom isn't looking... except the cookies are life-saving medicine, he's taking it away from your actual Mom, and he's barely containing his giggles when he daydreams about what will happen as a result. It would seem unfair to make fun of the man's looks, but everything he says and does confirms that you can judge this book by the huge print its cover.

Also, I've neglected my dog-posting duties more than once, since I'm usually on my phone. He're's a triple-dose to make up for it.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 01:38

Arrowsmith: Feb 6, 2006; SAGANISTA!

Spaced God posted:

https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/884538944305713152

lmbo

Now he's 5 for 6.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 01:44

Red Baron: Mar 9, 2007; ty slumfrog

Ague Proof posted:

I mean, you think a thing like that is going to destroy, like Hugh Grant who I love. I think he's great. He's a member of my golf club. You would have think he would have been destroyed by what happened to him and he's the biggest star now than he ever was...

Uhhhhhh what the gently caress did Hugh Grant do? I'm ready, hit me with this new thing or old thing I have somehow forgotten.

e: I am a loving moron who confused Hugh Grant with Wolverine.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 01:55

Shifty Nipples: Apr 8, 2007

Red Baron posted:

Uhhhhhh what the gently caress did Hugh Grant do? I'm ready, hit me with this new thing or old thing I have somehow forgotten.

e: I am a loving moron who confused Hugh Grant with Wolverine.

That guy from House?

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:00

Jaxyon: Mar 7, 2016; I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Shifty Nipples posted:

That guy from House?

no he means the guy from north by northwest

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:01

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

pacerhimself posted:

Why on earth do these dopes insist on sending somebody out to the media with a message and then inevitably contradicting them, sometimes within the day or the hour?

Do they not know that having no consistency in their message means that it's very difficult to trust anything they say? Are they just that stupid or is it something else?

As long as it's what their base wants to hear, or what their megadonors want them to say, why would they care?

DreamShipWrecked posted:

More RightWing.txt than Trump, the NRA has released a massive cop out over the shooting of Philandro Castille

http://reason.com/blog/2017/07/10/nra-breaks-silence-on-philando-castile-s

This is shocking. I mean what's next, the Oathkeepers side with police enforcing martial law against peaceful protestors because those protestors are black?

...oh.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:07

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-russia-email-candidacy.html?_r=0

lol

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:10

BigBallChunkyTime: Nov 25, 2011; Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.; Illegal Hen

Red Baron posted:

Uhhhhhh what the gently caress did Hugh Grant do? I'm ready, hit me with this new thing or old thing I have somehow forgotten.

e: I am a loving moron who confused Hugh Grant with Wolverine.

Busted in a car with a prostitute, I think.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:10

Unless: Jul 24, 2005; I art

Donald Trump Jr. was told in an email that material damaging to Hillary Clinton was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father

quote:

WASHINGTON � Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald J. Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father�s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.

The email to the younger Mr. Trump was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist and former British tabloid reporter who helped broker the June 2016 meeting. In a statement on Sunday, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he was interested in receiving damaging information about Mrs. Clinton, but gave no indication that he thought the lawyer might have been a Kremlin proxy.

Mr. Goldstone�s message, as described to The New York Times by the three people, indicates that the Russian government was the source of the potentially damaging information. It does not elaborate on the wider effort by Moscow to help the Trump campaign. There is no evidence to suggest that the promised damaging information was related to Russian government computer hacking that led to the release of thousands of Democratic National Committee emails.

But the email is likely to be of keen interest to Justice Department and congressional investigators, who are examining whether any of President Trump�s associates colluded with the Russian government to disrupt last year�s election. American intelligence agencies have determined that the Russian government attempted to sway the election in favor of Mr. Trump.

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Alan Futerfas, the lawyer for the younger Mr. Trump, said his client had done nothing wrong but pledged to work with investigators if contacted.

�In my view, this is much ado about nothing. During this busy period, Robert Goldstone contacted Don Jr. in an email and suggested that people had information concerning alleged wrongdoing by Democratic Party front-runner, Hillary Clinton, in her dealings with Russia,� he said to The Times in an email on Monday. �Don Jr.�s takeaway from this communication was that someone had information potentially helpful to the campaign and it was coming from someone he knew. Don Jr. had no knowledge as to what specific information, if any, would be discussed.�

It is unclear whether Mr. Goldstone had direct knowledge of the origin of the damaging material. One person who was briefed on the emails said it appeared that he was passing along information that had been given to him by others.

Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump�s son-in-law, and Paul J. Manafort, the campaign chairman at the time, also attended the June 2016 meeting in New York. Representatives for Mr. Kushner referred requests for comments back to an earlier statement, which said he voluntarily disclosed the meeting to the federal government. He has deferred questions on the content of the meeting to Donald J. Trump Jr.

A spokesman for Mr. Manafort declined to comment.

But at the White House, deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders was adamant from the briefing room lectern that �the president�s campaign did not collude in any way. Don Jr. did not collude with anybody to influence the election. No one within the Trump campaign colluded in order to influence the election.�

The president, a prolific Twitter user, did not address his son�s controversy on Monday, and instead sought to highlight other issues throughout the morning.

In a series of tweets, the president�s son insisted he did what anyone connected to a political campaign would have done � to hear out potentially damaging information about an opponent. He maintained that his various statements about the meeting weren�t in conflict.

�Obviously I�m the first person on a campaign to ever take a meeting to hear info about an opponent... went nowhere but had to listen,� he wrote in one tweet. In another, he added, �No inconsistency in statements, meeting ended up being primarily about adoptions. In response to further Q�s I simply provided more details.�

The younger Mr. Trump, who had a reputation during the campaign for having meetings with a wide range of people eager to speak to him, did not join his father�s administration. He runs the family business, the Trump Organization, with his brother Eric.

On Monday, after news reports that he had hired a lawyer, he indicated in a tweet that he would be open to speaking to the Senate Intelligence Committee, one of the congressional panels investigating Russian meddling in the election. �Happy to work with the committee to pass on what I know,� the younger Mr. Trump wrote.

Mr. Goldstone represents Russian pop star Emin Agalarov, whose father was President Trump�s business partner in bringing the Miss Universe pageant to Moscow in 2013. In an interview Monday, Mr. Goldstone said he was asked by Mr. Agalarov to set up the meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and the Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya.

�He said, �I�m told she has information about illegal campaign contributions to the D.N.C.,�� Goldstone recalled, referring to the Democratic National Committee. He said he then emailed Don Jr., outlining what the lawyer purported to have.

But Mr. Goldstone, who wrote the email over a year ago, denied any knowledge of involvement by the Russian government in the matter, saying that never dawned on him. �Never, never ever,� he said. Later, after the email was described to The Times, efforts to reach him for further comment were unsuccessful.

In the interview, he said that it was his understanding that Ms. Veselnitskaya was simply a �private citizen� for whom Mr. Agalarov wanted to do a favor. He also said he did not know whether Mr. Agalarov�s father, Aras Agalarov, a Moscow real estate tycoon known to be close to Russian President Vladimir V. Putin, was involved. The elder Mr. Agalarov and the younger Mr. Trump worked together to bring a Trump Tower to Moscow, but the project never got off the ground.

Mr. Goldstone also said his recollection of the meeting largely tracked with the account given by the president�s son, as outlined in the Sunday statement Mr. Trump released in response to a Times story on the June 2016 meeting. Mr. Goldstone said that the last time he had communicated with the younger Mr. Trump was to send him a congratulatory text after the November election, but added that he did speak to the Trump Organization over the past weekend, before giving his account to the media.

Donald Trump Jr., who initially told The Times that Ms. Veselnitskaya wanted to talk about the resumption of adoption of Russian children by American families, acknowledged in the Sunday statement that one subject of the meeting was possibly compromising information about Mrs. Clinton.

But he said that the Russian lawyer produced nothing of consequence, and that the meeting ended after she began talking about the Magnitsky Act�an American law that blacklists suspected Russian human rights abusers. The 2012 law so enraged Mr. Putin that he halted American adoptions of Russian children.

Mr. Goldstone said Ms. Veselnitskaya only offered �just a vague, generic statement about the campaign�s funding and how people, including Russian people, living all over the world donate when they shouldn�t donate� before turning to her anti-Magnitsky Act arguments.

�It was the most inane nonsense I�ve ever heard,� he said. �And I was actually feeling agitated by it. Had I, you know, actually taken up what is a huge amount of their busy time with this nonsense?�

Ms. Veselnitskaya, for her part, denied that the campaign or compromising material about Mrs. Clinton ever came up at all. She said she never acted on behalf of the Russian government. A spokesperson for Mr. Putin said on Monday that the Russian president did not know Ms. Veselnitskaya, and had no knowledge of the June 2016 meeting.

Ms. Sanders said at a press briefing that the American president had learned of the meeting recently but declined to discuss details.

The White House press office, however, accused Mrs. Clinton�s team of hypocrisy. The office circulated a January 2017 story published in Politico, detailing how officials from the Ukranian government tried to help the Democratic candidate conduct opposition research on Mr. Trump and some of his aides.

News of the meeting involving the younger Mr. Trump, Mr. Kushner and Mr. Manafort blunted whatever good feeling the president�s team had after his trip to Europe for the Group of 20 economic summit meeting.

The president learned from his aides about the existence of the 2016 meeting at the tail end of the trip, according to one White House official. But some people in the White House had known for several days that it had occurred, because Mr. Kushner had revised his foreign contact disclosure document to include it.

The president was aggravated by the news of the meeting, according to one person close to him � less over the fact that it had happened, and more because it was yet another story about Russia that had swamped the media cycle.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:10

Teddybear: May 16, 2009; Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!

skylined! posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-russia-email-candidacy.html?_r=0

lol

How many times is he gonna have to revise his statement now? This is round four?

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:11

empty whippet box: Jun 9, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Unless posted:

Donald Trump Jr. was told in an email that material damaging to Hillary Clinton was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father

Do they keep releasing barebones stories so that they'll tell a bunch of disprovable lies, and then leaking details which prove they were lying? Or is that just happening naturally because they're lying liars who can't stop lying or talking?

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:12

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Teddybear posted:

How many times is he gonna have to revise his statement now? This is round four?

the article is amazing. his new lawyer describes it as much to do about nothing.

pish posh, when you're rich you're allowed to collude with hostile nations against your political adversaries. the proles let you.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:13

twice burned ice: Dec 29, 2008; My stove defies the laws of physics!

Welp. That's the closest thing to a smoking gun we've seen so far. Holy gently caress.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:14

CannonFodder: Jan 26, 2001; Passion’s Wrench

Spaced God posted:

https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/884538944305713152

lmbo

Well considering this mess may end up in RICOville, best to get an attorney that already has RICO cred.

edit: well gently caress, that landed while I was typing.

CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jul 11, 2017

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:15

Ague Proof: Jun 5, 2014; they told me
I was everything

This is amazing. How much more do they know? I hope more revelations keep coming every day.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:16

FizFashizzle: Mar 30, 2005

empty whippet box posted:

Do they keep releasing barebones stories so that they'll tell a bunch of disprovable lies, and then leaking details which prove they were lying? Or is that just happening naturally because they're lying liars who can't stop lying or talking?

yes and it loving owns

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:16

moostaffa: Apr 2, 2008; People always ask me about Toad, It's fantastic. Let me tell you about Toad. I do very well with Toad. I love Toad. No one loves Toad more than me, BELIEVE ME. Toad loves me. I have the best Toad.

empty whippet box posted:

Do they keep releasing barebones stories so that they'll tell a bunch of disprovable lies, and then leaking details which prove they were lying? Or is that just happening naturally because they're lying liars who can't stop lying or talking?

yes.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:17

Grapplejack: Nov 27, 2007

poo poo, I was about to post that article.

twice burned ice posted:

Welp. That's the closest thing to a smoking gun we've seen so far. Holy gently caress.

Yeah he's super hosed.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:17

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

empty whippet box posted:

Do they keep releasing barebones stories so that they'll tell a bunch of disprovable lies, and then leaking details which prove they were lying? Or is that just happening naturally because they're lying liars who can't stop lying or talking?

ya, and apparently these assholes are so full of themselves that they will do dumb poo poo like agree to speak to a senate intel committee because they did nothing wrong and honestly don't you take meetings with people you don't know about subject matters you are not aware of in the middle of a campaign?

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:18

FizFashizzle: Mar 30, 2005

maddow is on it

yes

YES

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:20

BigBallChunkyTime: Nov 25, 2011; Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.; Illegal Hen

Ague Proof posted:

This is amazing. How much more do they know? I hope more revelations keep coming every day.

I want it to be like that week a couple months back where bombs dropped every loving day.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:20

Unless: Jul 24, 2005; I art

There's a lot being written and reflected upon by journalists after the shitshow of last year, all centered around how you deal with a dude like Trump. All-at-once drops get buried in a week, damage over time creates permanence.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:21

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Unless posted:

Donald Trump Jr. was told in an email that material damaging to Hillary Clinton was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father

OK, the NY Times is doing this on purpose to just bait out statements that they can show to be false afterwards

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:21

OhDearGodNo: Jan 3, 2014

Please tell me someone has a link to the NYT revision Maddow is talking about.

e: you fuckers are fast. Awesome.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:21

goethe.cx: Apr 23, 2014

It's amazing how much these people don't give a gently caress. Like, I get it, there are a lot of complicated rules about what you can and can't do for a political campaign. But this is the kind of thing that would make any normal person be like, "well, hang on, let's see what the law says about meeting with this person." Nope

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:22

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Koyaanisgoatse posted:

It's amazing how much these people don't give a gently caress. Like, I get it, there are a lot of complicated rules about what you can and can't do for a political campaign. But this is the kind of thing that would make any normal person be like, "well, hang on, let's see what the law says about meeting with this person." Nope

They're whole lives have been based around "I'm rich and I have enough money and connections to whatever the gently caress I want, and even if I gently caress up, I can just rely on those things for another chance". Its no shock that they took the same approach to politics

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:24

KickerOfMice: Jun 7, 2017; [/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.; Fun Shoe

Nothus posted:

Huh, the NRA wringing it's hands furiously while weaseling out of supporting a black gun owner murdered for exercising his rights? Quelle surprise.

This is bogglingly stupid-.

http://reason.com/blog/2017/07/10/nra-breaks-silence-on-philando-castile-s [same Reason.com article]

quote:

NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch said during a debate on CNN. "It's a terrible tragedy that could have been avoided."

Then a generalized half-rear end admission that 'a thing occurred' from Loecsh.
the next line -

quote:

Since Loesch, a conservative TV and radio host, explicitly said she was speaking for the NRA, this seems to be the organization's first official statement on the case

The NRA is aghast that people might have thought their official card-carrying spokeswoman could possibly speak for the NRA. Yes, tell me more...
It's a damned shame that these people can tarnish the name of a respectable organization when they act so quickly! If only the NRA had more that a year and four days to react! :rolleyes:

e- I propose a new national sport, all lobbyists must 1 on 1 fight to the death. Then dump the last one headfirst down a well.

KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Jul 11, 2017

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:25

Mavric: Dec 14, 2006; I said "this is going to be the most significant televisual event since Quantum Leap." And I do not say that lightly.

Oh my god this really is stupid watergate isn't it.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:26

awesmoe: Nov 30, 2005; Pillbug

and jr is dumb even by the standards of the trump kids.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:26

treasured8elief: Jul 25, 2011; Salad Prong

Unless posted:

Donald Trump Jr. was told in an email that material damaging to Hillary Clinton was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father

💯

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:29

Jaxyon: Mar 7, 2016; I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Mavric posted:

Oh my god this really is stupid watergate isn't it.

"You don't get to be that rich by being stupid" - every Trump voter.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:29

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Red Baron posted:

Uhhhhhh what the gently caress did Hugh Grant do? I'm ready, hit me with this new thing or old thing I have somehow forgotten.

e: I am a loving moron who confused Hugh Grant with Wolverine.

Hugh Jackman has done awful things too:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458525/

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:31

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# ? May 26, 2024 22:55

Shifty Pony: Dec 28, 2004; Up ta somethin'

empty whippet box posted:

Do they keep releasing barebones stories so that they'll tell a bunch of disprovable lies, and then leaking details which prove they were lying? Or is that just happening naturally because they're lying liars who can't stop lying or talking?

Both.

They probably have more than they initially report on because they were unable to verify it in time for their internal deadline to publish. They also probably get a wave of new tips and documents when people in the know see Trump's (Donald, Jr, whoever) blatant lies.

# ? Jul 11, 2017 02:31

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