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NikkolasKing posted:Yu Yevon wasn't really a god, though. The funniest thing about X's story is that the Yevon rligion, by the time of X, had nothing to do with Yevon. Wakka and Lulu are as clueless as Tidus when Yunalesca and Mika namedrop Yu Yevon. Who could have imagined that over a thousand years "Oh my god! Yu Yevon, stop killing us!!" morphed into "O' Yevon; my god! Stop it from killing us!"
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Meridian posted:So I'm passed the initial starting dungeons, at the point of meeting up with Balthier and Fran to go rescue Penelo. This is roughly the point I've reached in the past when playing this game, but I am having way more fun this time around. No joke I did not enjoy the original version at all and turns out giving me a job system was all I needed to love the game (Also a turbo button)
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Attitude Indicator posted:Who could have imagined that over a thousand years "Oh my god! Yu Yevon, stop killing us!!" morphed into "O' Yevon; my god! Stop it from killing us!" Easter morphed from an orgiastic celebration of springtime to celebrating how Jesus rose from the dead; Saturnalia/Christmas have a similar relationship. It's not super far-fetched, which is part of why I loved the world-building of FFX so much.
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Jul 12, 2017 15:29
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I've hit Ozmone Plains and I'm starting to feel the effects of wanting to equip all six party members. A few of my characters lack adequate weapons and even Penelo is still wearing her default armor. I hate to say it but I'll have to farm for a bit. Anyone else having trouble keeping up?
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Jul 12, 2017 15:54
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I wish X had followed in the popularity of VII and gotten more spin-off games; I think it would be pretty sweet to have a Lightning Returns-style game set during the Zanarkand-Bevelle machine war
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Jul 12, 2017 15:57
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Calaveron posted:I can sell anything in the Loot category or what? Yes
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I forgot Snow didn't. I did know Fang didn't! (and never bothered to use Hope, gently caress that guy) Story/Character reasons aside, Hope is a really good character. He's pretty much the best Rav; he doesn't get any access to the Strikes, but he's the only one with access to all the spells and elements (has Aeroga which is an important launcher unlike Vanille, and all the others only have limited element spells). As a medic, he's one of the 2 characters that actually has both Curasa and Raise (not to mention Curaja). He's the best Syn up there with Sahz; only difference is Veil vs Vigilance. He's also a pretty good Com once you give him Ruin. Most of this is at relatively low/mid level too. What ties all of this together is him having the highest magic stat, which means he's the best in all of these roles when they aren't explicitly physical. He also has a faster casting speed than Sahz/Vanille too. Just don't use him for a Sen or Sab. quote:And I did actually mean Death in COM/COM/COM for when you needed to hit 99999 at a relatively lower level, Highwind could easily be superior though. Been long enough I haven't done the math Well, the thing about Highwind/Sovereign Fist is that they get raw damage multipliers added to them when attacking staggered targets. You'll be hitting the normal damage cap with just a com/rav/rav paradigm in most cases, at least I'm pretty sure you'd be doing that at a Stage 9 Crystarium (which is when you get full-atb skills). Calaveron posted:I can sell anything in the Loot category or what? Someone said it before, but basically yeah.
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Good to know, poo poo's expensive in this game Also why would I want to equip a Firefly?
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DoubleCakes posted:I've hit Ozmone Plains and I'm starting to feel the effects of wanting to equip all six party members. A few of my characters lack adequate weapons and even Penelo is still wearing her default armor. I hate to say it but I'll have to farm for a bit. Only played the original but what reason is there to do that? I only ever used or upgraded the first three characters. I was just barely always able to give them the strongest weapons and armor. Then they slaughtered everything just by attacking. I didn't even understand why they gave you more than 3 characters to use when they were all the same. Is the game much harder?
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Kelp Me! posted:I wish X had followed in the popularity of VII and gotten more spin-off games; I think it would be pretty sweet to have a Lightning Returns-style game set during the Zanarkand-Bevelle machine war All I really want is a prequel featuring Jecht, Braska and Auron.
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Calaveron posted:I can sell anything in the Loot category or what? I'd recommend keeping a few of each piece of loot around if you can afford it. There's one item you get from a hunt (Great Serpentskin) that is used for a couple different bazaar items so you don't want to sell them all off at once.
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Jul 12, 2017 16:01
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Calaveron posted:Good to know, poo poo's expensive in this game To stay low level for challenge runs
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Sefal posted:All I really want is a prequel featuring Jecht, Braska and Auron. They're not teenagers or in their early 20s. Japan would not be interested unfortunately.
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some guy on the bus posted:Only played the original but what reason is there to do that? I only ever used or upgraded the first three characters. I was just barely always able to give them the strongest weapons and armor. Then they slaughtered everything just by attacking. I didn't even understand why they gave you more than 3 characters to use when they were all the same. Well now they at least have different jobs you can switch them out for. You can still stick to 3 characters but I like to keep them all leveled and geared for variety.
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The story of Jecht, Auron and Braska felt more compelling at times than FFX's own party but you can't have a modern Final Fantasy without bishi heartthrobs and waifus.
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some guy on the bus posted:They're not teenagers or in their early 20s. Japan would not be interested unfortunately. This game is basically ffxv E: noctis is even a summoner and dies at the end
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Jul 12, 2017 16:06
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You want the great serpent skin to get the best outcome for the medical attention sidequest which nets you another one of those LP doubling earings aka that item that destroys the games difficulty curve completely.
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some guy on the bus posted:They're not teenagers or in their early 20s. Japan would not be interested unfortunately.
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quote:Unwilling to let Zanarkand be destroyed, Yu Yevon had the surviving citizens turn themselves into fayth and used them to summon an idealized version of Zanarkand at the peak of its power. Yu Yevon gathered a horde of pyreflies and transformed them into an armor for himself, which became the creature, Sin. this is my favorite final fantasy character
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Yu Yevon's plan still doesn't make any sense to me. Like, if you have enough willing subjects to help summon a horrendous seamonster to destroy all the other civilizations of Spira, why not just... try that first and preserve the actual Zanarkand before it gets destroyed.
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exquisite tea posted:Yu Yevon's plan still doesn't make any sense to me. Like, if you have enough willing subjects to help summon a horrendous seamonster to destroy all the other civilizations of Spira, why not just... try that first and preserve the actual Zanarkand before it gets destroyed. Because the actual of creating that giant sea monster effectively destroyed Zanarkand anyway. Basically: Zanarkand was under attack by Beville. They were losing the war. They had a last-ditch solution which would preserve the people (in Faith/dream form) and let them get revenge. So they did that. There was no way to preserve the actual Zanarkand and also have the thing powerful enough to wreck the poo poo out of the machina-equipped armies at their doorstep.
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ImpAtom posted:Because the actual of creating that giant sea monster effectively destroyed Zanarkand anyway. It's almost like, in life, you become the thing you hate the most. Whoa.
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The one thing about FFX that was never clear to me was that each Sin kill made it's respawn time shorter? Has that been figured out yet?
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IIRC Sin always came back almost immediately, but the new host was conscious and held the Sin body back. As the years went by, Yu Yevon's influence became stronger and the new hosts lost control even faster.
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I think it's also suggested that the Sin we fight has been awakened too soon Executus... too soon because Jecht was still somewhat in control, allowing Tidus and Auron to ride his totally tubular armor back to Spira.
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:what's the hardest final fantasy that isn't 2 Probably Final Fantasy Tactics or 8, because their mechanics are more obtuse than "kill things get loot kill more things" They become REALLY easy once you can wrap your brain around the mechanics, though!
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GulagDolls posted:this is my favorite final fantasy character Source for this?
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Die Sexmonster! posted:Probably Final Fantasy Tactics or 8, because their mechanics are more obtuse than "kill things get loot kill more things" Nah, 8 is easy if you play it on a surface level because Summon boosting is good enough. Tactics gets really hard real quick with Dorter City, and the UI in general is kinda obtuse for modern games.
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:I came into this thread to ask if there were any significant differences to Zodiac Age in terms of core gameplay and I see people talking about dual jobs, geez  https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasyXII/comments/6mthvn/anyone_get_seitengrat_yet/ this gently caress got it easily
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Can I sell all loot in one go?
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Tae posted:Nah, 8 is easy if you play it on a surface level because Summon boosting is good enough. Yeah FFT has one of the steepest immediate difficulty curves when you go from 3 or 4 battles against other melee dudes and some weak monsters into "here are some black mages and archers that start on rooftops, have fun slowly chasing them down while they steadily move further away from your squires and chemists while potshotting you from afar every turn" The first time I played through it I had more trouble in Dorter than I did with Velius
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Die Sexmonster! posted:Probably Final Fantasy Tactics or 8, because their mechanics are more obtuse than "kill things get loot kill more things" 8 i found easy when i spent 10 minutes grinding out diablos' "no encounters" my plan was to just not have encounters until i found a boss I couldn't beat and then grind as little as possible and that's how I found out bosses in ff8 are level scaled lol
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:
Are the models for these still invisible? That was pretty much enough for me to never bother with them lol
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FFT is easily the hardest FF but it's also easily the best. Liking FF12 so far. Some of the reorchestrated musical pieces are better than the originals and some are worse. I like the original version of the Rabanastre music better than the new one. It had a better tempo. The new one sounds too fast. Any tips for any of the trials? I'm going to mess around with them tonight.
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Elephant Ambush posted:FFT is easily the hardest FF but it's also easily the best. Each trial autosaves, if you load the autosave it dumps you into the main game with whatever exp, lp and items you have earned. Trials mode then starts over at stage one.
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Meridian posted:Each trial autosaves, if you load the autosave it dumps you into the main game with whatever exp, lp and items you have earned. Trials mode then starts over at stage one. Can you grind stage 1? I'm not sure I want to grind too hard but it would be cool to get a jump start.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Can you grind stage 1? I'm not sure I want to grind too hard but it would be cool to get a jump start. I haven't done it yet since I am still working, but I don't see why not.
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MMF Freeway posted:Are the models for these still invisible? That was pretty much enough for me to never bother with them lol yep Elephant Ambush posted:Can you grind stage 1? I'm not sure I want to grind too hard but it would be cool to get a jump start. yep if you run along the inside edge you can get the diamond armlet which sells for 6000 gil over and over, or attempt to steal a 90 attack katana from the flowering cactus in trial 3
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:let me tell you about dustia farming There is a way to do this without having the EXP curve broken and you just getting all the cash and LP. You can have Vaan be dead and have Penelo do it before she leaves. She'll absorb all the levels. You see, each joining party member's level is based off Vaans, and when Penelo leave the game doesn't save it, instead it recalculates it again based off Vaan's level once she rejoins. So you could level Penelo to 99 on Dustia and it wouldn't matter.
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