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SKULL.GIF posted:*gazes upon beautiful acres upon acres marshland* You're at your gooniest and I don't like it.
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Frijolero posted:And what's your solution besides "Can all y'all please have less children? For starters? I would tyrannically crush all organized religious action preventing birth control from being easily accessible. Education of women is already happening but spread can be improved. We also need to work on improved healthcare, social safety nets, and a generally better social fabric so people don't feel pressured to have children to provide for them in their old age or to keep them company when all their friends have died
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I would also stifle the free speech of any fuckhead who argues that it's a moral imperative to expand as much as possible, that's a cancerous idea stemming from capitalism. We should live in harmony and equilibrium with our habitat while improving our living standards, not try to exploit as much of it as humanly possible chasing an illusionary idea of a high score.
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RT if you want the republicans to give you a pony
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Medicare for all might cover the spinal transplants that congress' healthcare plan apparently doesn't.
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Frijolero posted:You're at your gooniest and I don't like it. One guy's literal argument was that we occupy a physically minuscule portion of the planet therefore it's perfectly fine to keep on expanding.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I already told you the problem isn't just about pollution and waste. Why are you ignoring that, and deliberately trying to make it a racial thing? Do you think people in China or India are perfectly fine with the population numbers in their countries? Or maybe the solution for this is devolution of political power rather than the one-child policy quote:Do you think people in China or India are perfectly fine with the population numbers in their countries?
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Hey guys I'm an enlightened liberal who is deathly afraid of the majority of people in my country, I've classified them as an "other" and I am 100% convinced that they want to kill me, specifically. I'm the extremely smart and intelligent adult in the room. By the way all loving rurals should loving hang. Yea I'm pretty woke. Hey guys I just want you to know that everyone who disagrees with me politically in any way is evil and only does things out of totally evil intentions. Also, if they ever say anything that sounds like it isn't evil, don't worry, it's either a codeword for something evil or they're lying to hide their true evil intents. I have cracked the code.
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Tunicate posted:Hey guys I just want you to know that everyone who disagrees with me politically in any way is evil and only does things out of totally evil intentions. Also, if they ever say anything that sounds like it isn't evil, don't worry, it's either a codeword for something evil or they're lying to hide their true evil intents. on the other hand, monarch worshipping "centrists" are very evil
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shut up shut up shut the gently caress up and shut your loving mouth loving forever
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Everybody deserves quality air conditioning. I also think the world is a better place with wild animals in it. So, yes, there are too many people. Also, someone please primary Tim Kaine ffs.
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What does "income standardized to a household size of three" mean? ThndrShk2k posted:Close in the future with more efficient LED Grow lights that can make a vertical building produce multiple times produce using the same land as it would've as a normal farm plot. They can use only a partial amount of the overall energy put into traditional farming (fuel costs, etc.) and be placed in both urban and rural areas as it's just a building. With a controlled environment yields would be bigger and labor would be less. No, the electricity costs are quite substantial, and likely come from fossil fuels (converting solar to electric and back to light is not efficient). The energy savings primarily come from transporting water through pipes instead of in the back of a truck trapped in lettuce and tomato. Even with efficiency improvements, urban vertical farming will probably only be beneficial for high water content vegetables. The Little Kielbasa posted:Everybody deserves quality air conditioning. I also think the world is a better place with wild animals in it. So, yes, there are too many people. I still think we can have both with the right infrastructure and homesteading.
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SKULL.GIF posted:One guy's literal argument was that we occupy a physically minuscule portion of the planet therefore it's perfectly fine to keep on expanding. lol you have a brain disease
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it actually meant something more like we occupy a minuscule portion of the planet therefore its not really an issue and also most of the problem isn't caused by either group of people largely, but multinational conglomerates viciously profit seeking
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Those people are considered "urban" anyway by the census. But they self-ID as rural and think of themselves as cowboys because they own a truck and three guns.
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SKULL.GIF posted:For starters? I would tyrannically crush all SKULL.GIF posted:I would also stifle the free speech Wow great ideas. Keep it up!
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Vox Nihili posted:But they self-ID as rural and think of themselves as cowboys because they own a truck and three guns. The guns can stay, but the commute to work via car has to go.
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Dairy Days posted:put a gun rack in the high speed rail carriage That would own. Please check your guns before boarding the hyper loop to city 17.
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I've got a masters and I don't think I'll ever see 8k a month jesus gently caress. Probably depends on how they are calculating this as to whether its accurate or not.
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Corky Romanovsky posted:No, the electricity costs are quite substantial, and likely come from fossil fuels (converting solar to electric and back to light is not efficient). The energy savings primarily come from transporting water through pipes instead of in the back of a truck trapped in lettuce and tomato. Even with efficiency improvements, urban vertical farming will probably only be beneficial for high water content vegetables. The goal for such indoor operations should be to most efficiently grow the plants, and hopefully they have a bullet of "use as little energy as possible". This would be important for some of the inefficient sustainable power sources, as well as coal fired sources. The problem with a lot of energy coming from coal is more of a general issue for all sources of electricity and not specifically for indoor growing.
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Dairy Days posted:most of the land is uninhabited and we got this far using only 1/3 of the arable land with laughably bad technique used on most of it BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHY YOU SHOULDNT HAVE KIDS The Earth actually is overpopulated, but English-speaking countries aren't the ones who need to hear "have fewer kids."
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call to action posted:So-called "brown people" don't produce much carbon tho China and India, the two most populated countries in the world, also produce shitloads of carbon.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I would also stifle the free speech 
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*rattling home from my IT job in a ford excursion* *hauling my fat rear end to my gaming rig in 50 degree fahrenheit air conditioning* *thinking with furrowed brow* the third world...there's too many people and they demand too much in the way of global resources
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poo poo where in earths readme.txt did they write the explicit maximum population how could we have been so foolish to overstep our bounds
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GalacticAcid posted:*rattling home from my IT job in a ford excursion* Air conditioning is a reasonable thing for people to have. Dairy Days posted:poo poo where in earths readme.txt did they write the explicit maximum population how could we have been so foolish to overstep our bounds Here's one of the more simple metrics that show how we're demanding more of the Earth than it can provide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Overshoot_Day
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Here's one of the more simple metrics that show how we're demanding more of the Earth than it can provide:
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:I've got a masters and I don't think I'll ever see 8k a month jesus gently caress. It's median pre-tax household income, so in most cases that's not going to be coming from one income stream. An individual making $100k a year is very uncommon, but a pair of highly educated individuals in their late-20's to early-30's working salaried jobs that earn ~$40-60k each isn't.
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Dairy Days posted:[galaxy brain] instead of changing our ways we should sterilize the browns
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Dairy Days posted:[galaxy brain] instead of changing our ways we should sterilize the browns greetings madame secretary
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[Drake Looking away, disgusted] Over Population is a problem. [Drake gesturing enthusiastically, smiling] Over Population is a self-correcting problem.
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Also like SKULL.GIF was saying, it would be really lovely to have to cut down nature preserves for more farmland or suburbs or megacities; or for places to get so crowded it's a lovely experience anyway. But luckily China's been doing a pretty good job of fixing the problem with their one-child policy which was effective enough they were able to relax it to a two-child policy a couple years ago. It's worse in India, where the overpopulation is causing more problems and is being met with more drastic answers, like forced female sterilization (only female because they're patriarchal as hell)
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Dairy Days posted:[galaxy brain] instead of changing our ways we should sterilize the browns Didn't you just make a post about how nobody was arguing something?
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Here's one of the more simple metrics that show how we're demanding more of the Earth than it can provide: Only a couple months overshoot a year? That's a relief, seeing how the Earth's been around for a couple billion years, we can just burn through those stockpiles for another billion or so.
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We all agree that the issues are the same symptoms. Some of us say that the cause is too many dudes Some of us say that the cause is too inefficient dudes Maybe we have too many dudes in specific areas for our level of efficiency? 🤔
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