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blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer
The angry girlfriend porn dude's problem wasn't whether watching porn is "ok/not ok" in general. It's that his (psycho) girlfriend made it clear bthat it was Not OK with her, and instead of him saying, "well, that's not something I can deal with" he lied and said, "ok, I won't watch it anymore."

Man up, and either commit to your promises, or admit that the relationship is going nowhere, but trying to walk a tightrope because you're afraid to be alone is a recipe for disaster.

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Dec 31, 2008

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Haha oh my god the comments are great. She went over and confronted them and they called the police and threw her out and the police didn't give a gently caress about her side of the story

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Mirthless posted:

be careful about who you admit to liking Zak Smith's work around, you're sure to get an earful about how terrible of a person he is, like that is a trait unique to him in the gaming industry rather than him just being the idiot dumb enough to express his stupid opinions

Oh, I'm aware of Zak's reputation. He earned it in part by purposefully antagonizing the sizable Special Snowflake Twitter crowd that inhabits indie tabletop gaming circles(as I see the situation). He's not the only indie guy that has done so. I'm still going to recommend a book I bring to every session because it is small and yet jam packed with good material and evocative art and weird flavor. The dust cover even has charts on it! The pornstar uses every part of the book carcass.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Haifisch posted:

See also: The dudes who still unironically believe the stupid poo poo about vaginas their buddies theorized in middle school.

S-so Asian women don't have horizontal vaginas?

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー
That she's replying to posts on reddit gives me full confidence that it's 100% real. It's just so loving beautiful, I love it.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Batterypowered7 posted:

S-so Asian women don't have horizontal vaginas?

Of course not, the correct term is sideways snappers

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

fruit on the bottom posted:

Haha oh my god the comments are great. She went over and confronted them and they called the police and threw her out and the police didn't give a gently caress about her side of the story

https://youtu.be/EbPcSKCqKLc

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
that's gonna be a good episode of Snapped when she eventually ambushes and murders both of them

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Mirthless posted:

be careful about who you admit to liking Zak Smith's work around, you're sure to get an earful about how terrible of a person he is, like that is a trait unique to him in the gaming industry rather than him just being the idiot dumb enough to express his stupid opinions
If it were just him expressing his lovely opinions then I might let this slide but he actively harasses and stalks people who disagree with him and runs them out of their livelihoods. You're actually defending someone who incites others to commit crimes against another simply because he doesn't like being told that he isn't the greatest person to ever exist.

Pvt.Scott posted:

Oh, I'm aware of Zak's reputation. He earned it in part by purposefully antagonizing the sizable Special Snowflake Twitter crowd that inhabits indie tabletop gaming circles(as I see the situation). He's not the only indie guy that has done so. I'm still going to recommend a book I bring to every session because it is small and yet jam packed with good material and evocative art and weird flavor. The dust cover even has charts on it! The pornstar uses every part of the book carcass.
Yeah, drat those "special snowflakes" who want to live without constant attacks from an abuser! They should just accept that Zak S is inviolate and such blase things as "finding graphic descriptions of rape disgusting" and "treating people who are trans as people" are of no concern to him!

poo poo like this is why we have Trump in office. Don't normalize racism/sexism/homophobia/etc. just because it doesn't directly harm you.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Yawgmoth posted:

If it were just him expressing his lovely opinions then I might let this slide but he actively harasses and stalks people who disagree with him and runs them out of their livelihoods. You're actually defending someone who incites others to commit crimes against another simply because he doesn't like being told that he isn't the greatest person to ever exist.
Yeah, drat those "special snowflakes" who want to live without constant attacks from an abuser! They should just accept that Zak S is inviolate and such blase things as "finding graphic descriptions of rape disgusting" and "treating people who are trans as people" are of no concern to him!

poo poo like this is why we have Trump in office. Don't normalize racism/sexism/homophobia/etc. just because it doesn't directly harm you.

This is what I'm talking about

I didn't defend him, dummy, I just didn't go out of my way to poo poo all over his body of work on the grounds of him being relentlessly terrible (which, admittedly, he is. harassment campaigns and driving people out of the industry is pretty typical across the board, though. Gaming culture is, itself, relentlessly terrible.)

While we're in the neighborhood, what are your opinions on fourth edition and can you tell us in essay form how unfairly it was treated by wizards of the coast

Haifisch posted:

Not reddit, but I feel like it belongs here:

This is a great and satisfying bit of schadenfreude but it reads a little too much like the product of somebody writing an open relationship story based on a trope checklist

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Mirthless posted:

harassment campaigns and driving people out of the industry is pretty typical across the board, though. Gaming culture is, itself, relentlessly terrible.

This kind of attitude just perpetuates things. We should demand better. "We" meaning people, not gamers, I'm speaking more generally here.

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream
Are these people you only know if you are a shut-in broke-brain?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Time posted:

Are these people you only know if you are a shut-in broke-brain?

You have to care way too much about pretending to be a elf on graph paper to know about any of this poo poo

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

blarzgh posted:

The angry girlfriend porn dude's problem wasn't whether watching porn is "ok/not ok" in general. It's that his (psycho) girlfriend made it clear bthat it was Not OK with her, and instead of him saying, "well, that's not something I can deal with" he lied and said, "ok, I won't watch it anymore."

Man up, and either commit to your promises, or admit that the relationship is going nowhere, but trying to walk a tightrope because you're afraid to be alone is a recipe for disaster.

I don't think he deliberately lied. Lots of people commit to things they think are going to be easy only to find out down the road that it wasn't as easy as they thought. Given the way she describes their sex life in that post, I would be willing to bet that the long periods of being bullied into involuntary celibacy (for lack of a better term) within the confines of his committed relationship didn't help him maintain his commitment to what he had promised.

quote:

- He lied to me about watching porn: I got hurt
- I got hurt: So I hurt him and made him feel horrible about it
- He feels horrible about it all: He tries to bring up other stuff related to sex
- He tries to bring up other stuff related to sex: It triggers me and I flip out on him again
- I flip out on him so many times: He doesn't want to have conversations about sex at all
- He doesn't want to have conversations about sex at all: I try to initiate them
- I try to initiate them: He shuts it down now because he is so used to me flipping out at him
- He shuts it down: I feel rejected, so I stop trying
- Annnnnd we will be left with our sex life being poo poo because we both feel the entire thing is taboo.

She is making it out to be a "we're both at fault for our sex life sucking!" situation but it's pretty clear what foot the shoe starts on and she's basically waging psychological warfare on her boyfriend for having any sexual needs at all. I guarantee you the guy looking at porn doesn't think sex is a taboo, only the person with incredibly weird hangups who refuses to field discussions about sex until her boyfriend isn't interested in it anymore, and then becomes super demanding right up until they start wanting to have sex again

Her sex life checklist is way more hosed up than anything else in that post imo

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER
Hahaha I almost seriousposted at Mirthless because I didn't read the username. Way to go you shitlord! Get your 'Worst Poster in a Bad Thread' crown back.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

VanSandman posted:

Hahaha I almost seriousposted at Mirthless because I didn't read the username. Way to go you shitlord! Get your 'Worst Poster in a Bad Thread' crown back.

Wouldn't it be better to just not reply instead of making a passive-aggressive jab and effectively letting the world know he got under your skin?

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

WampaLord posted:

This kind of attitude just perpetuates things. We should demand better. "We" meaning people, not gamers, I'm speaking more generally here.

obviously but if I only consumed products not developed by people with bad opinions and terrible behaviors I wouldn't own any tabletop material and my steam library would be about two dozen titles, and half of those only because the developers were too reclusive and faceless to associate with viewpoints

Tanith
Jul 17, 2005


Alpha, Beta, Gamma cores
Use them, lose them, salvage more
Kick off the next AI war
In the Persean Sector
Didn't see this one yet:

F/21 my boyfriend is draining my financially and emotionally. What is your advice here

quote:

I'm talking financially and emotionally. We live together, he has a job. I have a job. We've lived here since April and he has yet to give me any money for bills. Which is fine, I moved out on the terms that I'd be able to support myself. Key word; myself if anything were to happen to him. (he's an addict, unfortunately...)
But what's not fine is that, even with his own paychecks, (that he's telling me he's not getting it's been three months and they're "holding it" but obviously is getting paid because he's getting high everyday) he asks me for money for subs or for gas or food or whatever the excuse is that day. It's $20 here, $15 there, $5.. often. It's draining my bank account. I can't pay all the bills, buy all the food, take care of the upkeep and continue to work 40+ hours a week to have my bank account float in the same place Every. Single. Week. I make good money (for my living expenses. I should be extremely comfortable. I, myself am very good at saving money.)
For example in the next two weeks I'll bring home at least $1000, I'm a server, it varies. which SHOULD have me at $1800. However, with him needing money all the time I PROMISE after bills come out and everything, I'll still be at $800 in my bank account when I should be at $1250. And I'll more than likely dip below that because of him.
The main problem here is, and what you're probably thinking; "why can't you just say no to him?" Well I DO but he says "fine I'll just go get drugs for free hopefully I don't overdose" and well, I WATCHED him overdose on our anniversary last year he KNOWS what those words do to me as I struggled A LOT after that happened as I'm 100% straight edge I don't smoke or even drink. I'm just now beginning to be okay. He uses it against me every time I say no, therefore leading me to saying yes. Every. Single. Time.
Should I cut him off from money for EVERYTHING? He "should" be getting another paycheck on Saturday. Apparently his job is "holding it from him because his W2 form has to go through the accountants" I would've quit by now if that was true it's been three months and idek what all of his excuses are anymore but my idea is that instead of him giving me the $300 paycheck (as he owes me $1200 for bills ) is that he just "keeps" it and "buys himself everything he keeps asking me for" I can't afford to keep doing this I'm digging myself into a hole
TL;DR My addict boyfriend is draining my bank account and draining me emotionally with all of these lies, should I cut all ties of money with him?

:murder:

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Mirthless posted:

obviously but if I only consumed products not developed by people with bad opinions and terrible behaviors I wouldn't own any tabletop material and my steam library would be about two dozen titles, and half of those only because the developers were too reclusive and faceless to associate with viewpoints

I'm not talking about consumption, I'm talking about defending them because "Well, the whole industry is bad."

I like media from terrible people too, but I don't defend those people.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

WampaLord posted:

I'm not talking about consumption, I'm talking about defending them because "Well, the whole industry is bad."

I like media from terrible people too, but I don't defend those people.

Yeah I really wasn't trying to defend him with that statement so much as condemn the entire industry as terrible

A lot of the baggage around Zak S seems to have a lot more to do with the particular flavor of tabletop he likes than the uniquely lovely nature of the way he behaves, some goons are just more transparent about it than others.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Yawgmoth posted:

If it were just him expressing his lovely opinions then I might let this slide but he actively harasses and stalks people who disagree with him and runs them out of their livelihoods. You're actually defending someone who incites others to commit crimes against another simply because he doesn't like being told that he isn't the greatest person to ever exist.
Yeah, drat those "special snowflakes" who want to live without constant attacks from an abuser! They should just accept that Zak S is inviolate and such blase things as "finding graphic descriptions of rape disgusting" and "treating people who are trans as people" are of no concern to him!

poo poo like this is why we have Trump in office. Don't normalize racism/sexism/homophobia/etc. just because it doesn't directly harm you.

Let me clarify, I believe that is how Zak views the situation. The book I recommend contains no such material as far as I am aware.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Ein cooler Typ posted:





I can't believe her boyfriend is so closed-minded!

Aside from this being generally awesome and absolutely the correct response to someone trying to ask you to open your relationship. I googled it to find the comments and it turns out not only was the OP deleted (which I had assumed from the screenshot) but someone actually went through and deleted all the comments in what had been a pretty popular thread.

I wonder what happened.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

ArbitraryC posted:

Aside from this being generally awesome and absolutely the correct response to someone trying to ask you to open your relationship. I googled it to find the comments and it turns out not only was the OP deleted (which I had assumed from the screenshot) but someone actually went through and deleted all the comments in what had been a pretty popular thread.

I wonder what happened.

If you see that in a Reddit thread it's almost certainly because somebody got Doxxed

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
As far as The Greatest Poly Post goes, Captain Awkward's response has a weird mix of forgiveness and condemnation; https://captainawkward.com/2017/07/13/992-my-husband-is-dating-my-mom/

quote:

Obviously the ick factor of a your husband having an affair with his wife’s mother is high. Y’all have an open marriage, he could theoretically be with anyone in the world, and he chooses your mom? And your mother chooses the one man in the universe who is married to her daughter? That is some unfathomable shitheadery right there, from both of them. For the record, I don’t believe in soulmates. I don’t believe that there is romantic love that is somehow divorced from the choices you make about what to do about your feelings. I don’t believe there are feelings of love and attraction that “have to” be acted upon. I don’t believe in “it just happened.” “It” happens because people make it happen. These two assholes chose this.
...
It’s nice that you are thinking about the possibility of forgiveness for your husband (after you break them up somehow, of course), but my read on this situation is that there is no going back to any kind of happy equilibrium in these relationships. He’s always going to be the guy who dated your mom. Your mom is always going to be the mom who dated your husband. You’re framing it as “My mom stole my husband” but your husband did just as much stealing and breaking of trust.

Also, forgiveness is for when someone has a) stopped doing the harmful thing and b) apologized. These people haven’t even done you the courtesy of an honest conversation about what’s happening. I give you permission to ignore the entire concept of forgiveness for now.

Even if they agreed to end things, is there any going back to the life you (thought you) had, where your husband is a safe haven who will always leave the light on for you while you explore your addictions totally unproblematic day-drinking hobby?

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Tanith posted:

Didn't see this one yet:

F/21 my boyfriend is draining my financially and emotionally. What is your advice here


:murder:

You nees to step into a boxing ring and repeat after me, "If he dies, he dies"

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Mameluke posted:

As far as The Greatest Poly Post goes, Captain Awkward's response has a weird mix of forgiveness and condemnation; https://captainawkward.com/2017/07/13/992-my-husband-is-dating-my-mom/

You can tell this guy is an open relationship advocate because the only touching he does on her completly outrageously self serving behavior is point out that day drinking is bad

Not "well maybe banging every loser with a bar tab and a pulse while expecting your husband to pick up the pieces is kind of lovely too", just, "day drinking is almost as bad as what he and your mom are doing"

Mirthless fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jul 13, 2017

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Mameluke posted:

As far as The Greatest Poly Post goes, Captain Awkward's response has a weird mix of forgiveness and condemnation; https://captainawkward.com/2017/07/13/992-my-husband-is-dating-my-mom/

What a weird reading. I mean yeah, him dating the mom is pretty bad regardless of their relationship status, like it'd be weird to date your ex's brother/sister too, but it's like he ignored all the parts of her moving out to go on a year long bender loving other dudes that makes her completely in the wrong no matter what he ended up doing. Like they didn't have an open relationship, she just divorced him without doing the paperwork.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Mirthless posted:

You can tell this guy is an open relationship advocate because the only touching he does o her completly outrageously self serving behavior is point out that day drinking is bad

Day drinking is actually cool and good.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Mameluke posted:

As far as The Greatest Poly Post goes, Captain Awkward's response has a weird mix of forgiveness and condemnation; https://captainawkward.com/2017/07/13/992-my-husband-is-dating-my-mom/

I don't think he railed on her hard enough for straight up moving out of her house and in with her non-husband lover. I mean, I don't poly and maybe I've read the wrong things about it, but generally isn't your husband/wife supposed to be your primary lover, so wouldn't you actually live with them and dump/get rid of other bfs/gfs if it was affecting your marriage?

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Given they arent divorced, I am assuming her husband is gambling on the assumption his wife will die from liver failure long before she ever thinks to divorce him.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



MF_James posted:

I don't think he railed on her hard enough for straight up moving out of her house and in with her non-husband lover. I mean, I don't poly and maybe I've read the wrong things about it, but generally isn't your husband/wife supposed to be your primary lover, so wouldn't you actually live with them and dump/get rid of other bfs/gfs if it was affecting your marriage?

You would think but actually that would be the "veto power" and "couple privilege" panels in this terrible comic I am inflicting on your eyes and brain:

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Apparently, but a lot of poly people whine endlessly about their partner's "primary" taking priority. It's almost as though they don't know what the word means!

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

MF_James posted:

I don't think he railed on her hard enough for straight up moving out of her house and in with her non-husband lover. I mean, I don't poly and maybe I've read the wrong things about it, but generally isn't your husband/wife supposed to be your primary lover, so wouldn't you actually live with them and dump/get rid of other bfs/gfs if it was affecting your marriage?

Some people think that's regressive. It was a while ago but someone posted a comic where the author was whining about how bad it was that her boyfriend was prioritizing his wife's wants over her needs and it was the most eyerolly thing ever.

But of course these are the kind of people who claim they can love and invest in all their partners equally while being unable to wait more than 5 minutes after their own marriage vows to sneak off with their fuckbuddies.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I would hope the person youre married to takes priority because they have the actual financial power to rock your world like your other lovers can only dream of, but also why the gently caress is your poly rear end married?

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

MF_James posted:

I don't think he railed on her hard enough for straight up moving out of her house and in with her non-husband lover. I mean, I don't poly and maybe I've read the wrong things about it, but generally isn't your husband/wife supposed to be your primary lover, so wouldn't you actually live with them and dump/get rid of other bfs/gfs if it was affecting your marriage?

If there's one thing I've learned from this thread, it's that the definition of what is and isn't acceptable in a poly relationship is set by the person who pressured their partner into the poly relationship

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Mirthless posted:

/r/relationships: If there's one thing I've learned from this thread, it's that the definition of what is and isn't acceptable in a poly relationship is set by the person who pressured their partner into the poly relationship

sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


Errant Gin Monks posted:

I got you fam.

Disclaimer: this is all bullshit that no one but incels believe.

Young virgin women only have pretty innie vaginas with no protruding labia. But starting at 13 they start getting that pussy beaten up by massive Chad cock. This causes their vaginas to extend out big floppy brown labia aka a roastie because it looks like roast beef by the age of 16. 16 being the time they cement the fact they are all whores.

Incels are horrid loving people

oh ok

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE


Glad you quoted this or I would have missed it, Mirthless posted a good thing, what the gently caress, should I unblock him?!?

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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?




i told u u didn't want to know but u were like the nebbishy lovecraft protagonist who just had to follow up on their uncles last bloodstained letter from the space monster house

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