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There may be a couple Republicans that actually do believe that the underclasses of society should get tax cuts and the uber rich should be footing the bill. Probably not though.
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Chilichimp posted:They have another year and a half to pass some kind of repeal, so... the answer is... "maybe?" If they don't get this done now before moving on to the budget and the debt ceiling, then its over until after 2018. They were hoping a year and a half would be long enough for people to forget and for the rage to die down. There is not a chance in hell they pass a massive medicaid cut during an election year.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:48
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How did his last ultimatum go?
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Jul 13, 2017 18:49
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Ehhh..... https://twitter.com/LACaldwellDC/status/885552764142714881 Still worried.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:50
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Nonsense posted:I don't think Republicans care much about appearing virtuous. our ideas are so repugnant to the country at large that we can only expect to continue winning elections if we break any law that stands in our way.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:51
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Jaxyon posted:Drug addiction is a medical condition so I think they should get care too. This shouldn't be an either or situation at all. There's no reason to not fund both. At the same time, if you're going to choose between diabetes treatment for 42 year old John who got Type 2 diabetes partially because of lifestyle choices and Timmy who at age 3 got Type 1 diabetes because of an immune system disorder, I have trouble with the idea of letting Timmy die.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:54
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I...like my HSA. But my employer only has a 1300 deductible (lowest you can legally have with the health plan), plus they contribute between 500 and 1100 a year into it. I pay $50 every two weeks for insurance, and put another $20 in there. It's nice to just swipe my card for minor dental, vision, doctor, and prescription care and not worry about it. Most of my expenses are dental and vision related. Plus, I SUCK at saving money, so forcing me to do so directly from my paycheck is a good thing. That being said, it would blow in an emergency, because I generally can't get my balance above $1500 or so. Single payer preferred, but HSA's aren't a boogeyman.
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Dogwood Fleet posted:This shouldn't be an either or situation at all. There's no reason to not fund both. At the same time, if you're going to choose between diabetes treatment for 42 year old John who got Type 2 diabetes partially because of lifestyle choices and Timmy who at age 3 got Type 1 diabetes because of an immune system disorder, I have trouble with the idea of letting Timmy die. There is absolutely no reason to let either of them die, unless you are Ebenezer GOP Scrooge, who doesn't want to spend above a certain amount on the poor. Plus, John (42) sounds like a Republican voter to me, so they'd save him first. That's one reason they are so crazy about saving midwestern white drug addicts. They are the type of people who vote Republican (if they get clean.)
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Jul 13, 2017 18:56
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BarbarianElephant posted:Plus, John (42) sounds like a Republican voter to me, I'm actually an independent.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:58
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Nonsense posted:I don't think Republicans care much about appearing virtuous. Literally "laws are only there to make it harder for democrats to win elections"
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Dogwood Fleet posted:This shouldn't be an either or situation at all. There's no reason to not fund both. At the same time, if you're going to choose between diabetes treatment for 42 year old John who got Type 2 diabetes partially because of lifestyle choices and Timmy who at age 3 got Type 1 diabetes because of an immune system disorder, I have trouble with the idea of letting Timmy die. Absolutely. One of the best things things about Obamacare was the expansion of addiction and mental health coverage. Was.
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Rampant Dwickery posted:Keep doing it anyway. Mine are Duckworth and Durbin, possibly two of the safest "no's" in the Senate, and I'm still doing it because the pressure needs to stay. I still email Cornyn and Cruz all the time but it's always the same boilerplate response. Actually, Cornyn's office did send a different and issue-specific canned response a few months ago when I emailed about healthcare stuff. Cruz has always been the boilerplate "thanks for contacting us" blah blah. Still going to keep sending poo poo though.
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Did he even kick the tires or look under the hood?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:HSA disbursements after age 65 can be used for anything.
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marshmonkey posted:Did he even kick the tires or look under the hood? The way Macron's wife backs up a bit hmmmmmmmmmmm
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Reik posted:How did his last ultimatum go? Barron didn't get aborted and he's still married to melania so probably not great
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Jul 13, 2017 19:05
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blackmet posted:I...like my HSA. Imagine if your HSA had a $5000 deductible and your employer didn't contribute. That's what HSAs are like in the individual market.
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Jul 13, 2017 19:06
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Sloober posted:The way Macron's wife backs up a bit "Protégez la chatte!"
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Jul 13, 2017 19:06
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Reik posted:Do people shop around to manage costs in the UK? A page or two back now, but: Yes, absolutely they do. While most of the UK market is managed by the National Health Service there are aspects of health care - for example some preventative and cosmetic aspects - which the state does not pay for. Most of the people who are lucky enough to afford these aspects will not be in an insurance scheme so they will contact private medical providers directly and, like any expensive service, they will get quotes and shop around. Prices can vary a great deal.
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Jul 13, 2017 19:07
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Switch Carvey from there w/ Edward James Olmos here  And we'll have this... Evil Fluffy posted:This motherfucker needs to spend the rest of his (what would be a very short) life as part of the genpop in a private prison.
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skylined! posted:s....sempai please Putin whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you Never, ever, during your trials and eventual impeachment. When you saw only one set of footprints It was then that I carried you. But not very far, because you are fat and reeked of PISS"
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LaserShark posted:"Protégez la chatte!" With a hard T.
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blackmet posted:I...like my HSA. I would suggest contributing up to your out-of-pocket max.
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Reik posted:Imagine if your HSA had a $5000 deductible and your employer didn't contribute. That's what HSAs are like in the individual market. Yeah, discussing healthcare from the point of view of "My work plan only costs $25 a month and I get free dental. I don't know what all you guys are complaining about. Cut out the lattes and get health insurance" is frustrating. IT'S PART OF YOUR SALARY, DUDE!
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NRVNQSR posted:A page or two back now, but: Yes, absolutely they do. While most of the UK market is managed by the National Health Service there are aspects of health care - for example some preventative and cosmetic aspects - which the state does not pay for. Most of the people who are lucky enough to afford these aspects will not be in an insurance scheme so they will contact private medical providers directly and, like any expensive service, they will get quotes and shop around. Prices can vary a great deal. Elective and cosmetic healthcare is drastically different from typical healthcare. The same solution won't work for both.
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Reik posted:Elective and cosmetic healthcare is drastically different from typical healthcare. The same solution won't work for both. Oh, sorry, I thought you were legitimately asking a question. I'm not attempting to present an argument on the issue, just providing information.
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NRVNQSR posted:Oh, sorry, I thought you were legitimately asking a question. I'm not attempting to present an argument on the issue, just providing information. I was asking, I just should have clarified that the medical care I was referring to was stuff like MRIs. Didn't mean to be agresssive, sorry.
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I don't know which one is more incredible: that USA has Trump and his administration loving up everything (including themselves) worse than anyone could have imagined or that republicans are still supporting him.
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What a loving cretin. moskiitto posted:I don't know which one is more incredible: that USA has Trump and his administration loving up everything (including themselves) worse than anyone could have imagined or that republicans are still supporting him. Have you been paying attention to Republicans in the last 15 years?
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PhazonLink posted:"Fit"? gently caress if I know. They sit in the cube opposite mine and talk like AM radio constantly. What I gleaned of that is that Trump said this to the wife of some French politician at the G-20. Pence = Family Values is their go to for that strain of cognitive dissonance.
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Owned. gtfo Denny's.
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BarbarianElephant posted:There is absolutely no reason to let either of them die, unless you are Ebenezer GOP Scrooge, who doesn't want to spend above a certain amount on the poor. It's like if you were about to go to a black tie event and had a suit laid out on your bed. Senator McConnell bursts through the door and says that you have to choose between not wearing your shirt and jacket or your pants and underwear. There's absolutely no reason to make a choice, but if pressed, I'd tell you to wear pants because it would be slightly less embarrassing. The fact that we're even having this discussion is an national disgrace.
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eviltastic posted:Ehhh..... The optimistic way to look at this is that he just doesn't want to be the third vote against if he doesn't have to be, and they're all playing an elaborate game of chicken to see who the first domino to fall will be. Who knows though.
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