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Bicyclops posted:"They can hurry up and die" is almost literally "Then they had better do so, and decrease the surplus population!" I'm purely talking about boomers. They cannot die fast enough.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:OK, I didn't really deserve a better response than that. How about this--the reality is that relocating is not something you can reasonably expect the poor to do. I like this "poor people are utterly helpless to help themselves, unless big brother is there to save them" trope. Just because you wont move, doesn't entitle you to a job. You can't make jobs out of thin air.
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Despera posted:A factory or call center that supplies decent wages is going to be of course heavily subsidized. They bought the lies that the coal industry fed them. If they want to live with that choice im going to mock them. Why would a call center in WV need to be heavily subsidied but a call center in TX or CA would not? Mocking people for being foolishly born somewhere where companies have massive power and have crippled local communities is classist as gently caress. Remember, a minority of West Virginians voted for Trump.
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Trabisnikof posted:Why would a call center in WV need to be heavily subsidied but a call center in TX or CA would not? Are there still loving call centers in CA or TX? Are you keeping the call center thing because LOL factories in the united states in 2017
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Skex posted:PPJ's twitter dumps are fine. it's when some idiot (looking at you Covok ) quotes the whole loving thing so we have to scroll through it again to read a single line of Covoking that it get's annoying. To be honest I think Covok quoted the whole post because mine was the last post of the previous page (on the 40 posts per page setting anyways) Also I sometimes cull/edit a lot of the tweets in and out of my posts so if you're quick enough you might see something different than you would later. There's been a couple tweets that until linked in SA it's not obvious the images are NWS in the preview. Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jul 15, 2017 |
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Despera posted:I like this "poor people are utterly helpless to help themselves, unless big brother is there to save them" trope. Just because you wont move, doesn't entitle you to a job. You can't make jobs out of thin air. It's "can't move," not "won't move." How do you think people with no money relocate?
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Despera posted:I like this "poor people are utterly helpless to help themselves, unless big brother is there to save them" trope. lol 
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Despera posted:I like this "poor people are utterly helpless to help themselves, unless big brother is there to save them" trope. Just because you wont move, doesn't entitle you to a job. You can't make jobs out of thin air. Fyi, The Grapes of Wrath wasn't a self help book. Despera posted:Are there still loving call centers in CA or TX? Are you keeping the call center thing because LOL factories in the united states in 2017 People are building new factories in the US in 2017. I'm pointing out the absurd idea of yours that a call center would need massive subsidies to exist in WV.
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boner confessor posted:i dont see how a guy saying he wants to run for senate but who has not actually done so is somehow an indictment on the people of west virgina but don't let that stop you from claiming they're all stupid while yourself pretending you care about the working class I love the fact that criticizing the population of an entire state for their stupid decisions means i'm shittin on the poor. There are people that aren't poor in WV you know, and they are the ones making the lovely decisions more than the poor people are, considering the working poor don't vote. I say take money from rich people in the state and give it to the poor people, am i still making GBS threads on them?
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Party Plane Jones posted:To be honest I think Covok quoted the whole post because mine was the last post of the previous page (on the 40 posts per page setting anyways) That was actually my reasoning, yes.
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Party Plane Jones posted:To be honest I think Covok quoted the whole post because mine was the last post of the previous page (on the 40 posts per page setting anyways) You're doing good, mate. Keep it up. I find myself scrolling passed the hundred pissing matches until I hit links/tweets.
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Covok posted:That was actually my reasoning, yes. There's no need to do that. Just empty quote the post and say "Hey, there's a PPJ post on the last page." By "empty quote" I mean "empty out the quote box"
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I love the fact that criticizing the population of an entire state for their stupid decisions means i'm shittin on the poor. There are people that aren't poor in WV you know, and they are the ones making the lovely decisions more than the poor people are, considering the working poor don't vote. Maybe if you don't want to be accused of making GBS threads on poor people in a poor state, instead of mocking the whole state for what a minority did you could have mocked the wealthy instead?
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Skex posted:PPJ's twitter dumps are fine. it's when some idiot (looking at you Covok ) quotes the whole loving thing so we have to scroll through it again to read a single line of Covoking that it get's annoying. I don't mind Covok. Who ignores non-trolls?
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Despera posted:I like this "poor people are utterly helpless to help themselves, unless big brother is there to save them" trope. Just because you wont move, doesn't entitle you to a job. You can't make jobs out of thin air. Yeah you can FDR did
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Bueno Papi posted:I find myself scrolling passed the hundred pissing matches You're going to miss a very important tape at some point!
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Despera posted:I like this "poor people are utterly helpless to help themselves, unless big brother is there to save them" trope. Just because you wont move, doesn't entitle you to a job. You can't make jobs out of thin air. you can it's called a government jobs program
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Trabisnikof posted:My answer? Is recognize that the Left and the Democratic Party has failed them rather than they've failed the party. We need to do more to recognize why "job retraining" wasn't compelling to them. "The Left" did them fine, Sanders had overwhelming support among among people not made of dust, ironically majority women support despite the sexist liberal slander born out of defense of a campaign built on ignoring the history of a candidate who's entire history was stomping on every group the DNC propped her up as a folk hero of. Trump is a unflushed bowel movement that's nothing more a stomach churning result of a system everyone sees as fundamentally broken where complete disillusionment and the excitement of potential violent disturbance is the closest to engaged a popular candidate gets when any attempt at reform is stymied. How many of the same people in this forum chanting America is center-right, we can't raise taxes, its perpetually 1991, aren't emblematic of the cosmopolitan attitude that sees an intolerable status quo as an acceptable punishment for the uncouth tribalism of the peasants. Trump winning was for the best if it doesn't kill everyone. Hillary was an awful nightmare of a candidate and the truth of 2016's electoral importance in the long run is sobering realization that Obama was a conjob to prevent people noticing. Liberal isn't the most left wing position in America, and people can even organize around that. For all the constant references to the southern strategy, to anybody who thought the Goldman Sachs guy in Georgia was going to win: are you aware the southern Democrats are dead? Are there somehow people here not aware of this? The south is never going to go blue because the south is literally a bunch of ethnic mafias where resources are hoarded by a small group of white people who also run every aspect of the law in a society based around a caste. HSBC is never going to be prosecuted, Rahm Emmanuel probably knows a thing or two about police black sites. Trump isn't that bad as far as deranged gangsters go. Sort of. As of Citizens United, we're basically tumbling into a a mafia state, Trump is only the FIRST. Next up is the Rock or the Facebook administration, might even start the Farmville Bureau. This is the new normal. Every election is going to be a Republican criminal/Entertainment celebrity, and because all the big money donors will go for the sane liberal candidate promising to never raise taxes, every popular candidate is going to crushed by big donors, and the GOP bolstered by fronts for the mafia will appeal hard enough to white ethnic nationalists in the south to win. 2020 is just going to be cast members from the Jersey Shore and the OC running.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:It's "can't move," not "won't move." How do you think people with no money relocate? How do people with no money not starve to death in the streets?
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Despera posted:How do people with no money not starve to death in the streets? Government programs? e: Yes, government programs.
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Trabisnikof posted:Why would a call center in WV need to be heavily subsidied but a call center in TX or CA would not? Call centers, those that are still Stateside, tend to be located in Texas and California because of the weather (or more precisely lack thereof) or Utah because whatever else can be said about them, Mormons tend to be fluent in different languages because they like to spread their poisonous beliefs err I mean do missionary stuff. West Virginia unfortunately is going to have all the inclement weather issues of ice and snow as well as a lack of the telecommunications infrastructure that call centers need. Seriously though, literally giving them money is the answer, ultimately it's the only answer for every one in the long run.
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Despera posted:How do people with no money not starve to death in the streets? food stamps, which can be used for food but not moving expenses
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Rodatose posted:you can it's called a government jobs program It's just giving them money. Moving dirt in WVA doesn't actually do anything
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah you can We still do. Rural America gets a lot of federal jobs related to National Parks/Forests. Like the Malheur standoff. The locals don't want the feds to go because the federal government employs half the county.
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Despera posted:How do people with no money not starve to death in the streets? Herm yes, the costs of moving out of state are exactly the same as staying in your existing communities where you might have social support or local knowledge to help you.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Government programs? Well if they dont want to do something outside goverment programs whats the prob?
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Despera posted:How do people with no money not starve to death in the streets? Mostly, because housing and healthcare costs have gone up more rapidly than food, they actually get sick and die in the streets.
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Trabisnikof posted:Maybe if you don't want to be accused of making GBS threads on poor people in a poor state, instead of mocking the whole state for what a minority did you could have mocked the wealthy instead? Or you could stop white knighting against something that wasn't said, only interpreted? I know no war but class war is fun, but you can't force every statement through that lense without being a disingenuous rear end in a top hat.
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Despera posted:It's just giving them money. Moving dirt in WVA doesn't actually do anything Even if your derisive answer was the only one, the CCC was actually good.
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Despera posted:It's just giving them money. Moving dirt in WVA doesn't actually do anything yeah jobs give people money plus a national jobs program doesn't have to stay in a single state. people can be hired from all over to work in other places. you know that the US military or the jobs corp doesn't do all of its work locally
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Or you could stop white knighting against something that wasn't said, only interpreted? I know no war but class war is fun, but you can't force every statement through that lense without being a disingenuous rear end in a top hat. This started out by someone saying that West Virginians are less cultured than animals. So yeah, I think the class lens actually fits here.
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Rodatose posted:yeah jobs give people money hey you know what else gives money? giving people money
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CNN says the 8th person in the meeting was a representative of the Agalarov family, btw. I haven't seen anyone mention that yet.. http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/14/politics/donald-trump-jr-meeting/index.html So yeah, looks like a random Russian we've never heard of. quote:So far acknowledged in attendance: Trump Jr., Kushner, Manafort, Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, Akhmetshin and publicist Rob Goldstone, who helped set up the meeting. A source familiar with the circumstances told CNN there were at least two other people in the room as well, a translator and a representative of the Russian family who had asked Goldstone to set up the meeting. The source did not provide the names. Fitzy Fitz fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Jul 15, 2017 |
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Trabisnikof posted:This started out by someone saying that West Virginians are less cultured than animals. So yeah, I think the class lens actually fits here. Oh I'm sorry I hurt your marxist sympathys on a humor website
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Two unironic uses of "white knighting" in one day, I don't think I've seen that since like 2008.
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Despera posted:Well if they dont want to do something outside goverment programs whats the prob? I don't understand what this means, but I think you're like five posts away from pulling a pupper master thing, anyway.
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Skex posted:PPJ's twitter dumps are fine. it's when some idiot (looking at you Covok ) quotes the whole loving thing so we have to scroll through it again to read a single line of Covoking that it get's annoying. ignoring him has really made my experience in this thread much more enjoyable while taking away nothing
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Despera posted:Oh I'm sorry I hurt your marxist sympathys on a humor website Haha so funny, poor people aren't cultured. What a jokester you!
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Trabisnikof posted:This started out by someone saying that West Virginians are less cultured than animals. So yeah, I think the class lens actually fits here. Well then respond to that person, and not someone who just wants to point out that West virginia is lovely by all known measures.
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