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Ytlaya posted:Well, ultimately Bernie is a bit limited in what he can do, since he's not in control of campaign funding or the direction of the party as a whole. Also he isn't a member of the party which further limits his control.
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Grouchio posted:Are the democrats already starting to slip up their chances for a 2018 majority in congress? I haven't been hearing good news since Ossoff lost that district, and I've heard little from Bernie. Is he actually managing to help things? oklahoma turned a little bluer no-thanks to the dems
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Trabisnikof posted:Also he isn't a member of the party which further limits his control. it also helps limit what the idiotic center can try to do to take him down
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Condiv posted:it also helps limit what the idiotic center can try to do to take him down How so? Bernie is pretty safe in his senate seat. Being a Democrat wouldn't make him any more vulnerable to losing his seat. Condiv posted:oklahoma turned a little bluer no-thanks to the dems Yeah gently caress those Dems who ran and won those seats. No thanks to them at all.
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It seems not much is going on since there aren't any major elections in the horizon at the moment. When primaries start for 2018 I'm guessing things will start picking up.
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Trabisnikof posted:How so? Bernie is pretty safe in his senate seat. Being a Democrat wouldn't make him any more vulnerable to losing his seat. i'm sure dems could find extra ways to gently caress with him if he was actually within the dem power structure. they're already trying to sink him because they're super scared of the most popular politician on their side for some reason quote:Yeah gently caress those Dems who ran and won those seats. No thanks to them at all. uh, maybe you're under the impression that the ok dem party should be considered part of the dems, but i don't think so. it's been abandoned by the dem party for a long long time, and these wins were because of oklahomans and oklahomans only, not dems
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how is someone as stupid as you permitted to loving live
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Effete Frenchmen afraid of a little blood on their hands.
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Condiv posted:uh, maybe you're under the impression that the ok dem party should be considered part of the dems, but i don't think so. it's been abandoned by the dem party for a long long time, and these wins were because of oklahomans and oklahomans only, not dems i think their choice to uh, keep their name and political affiliation would disagree with your version of the facts
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Bernie's going to be in jail before anyone from the Trump admin.
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Lol if you think that investigation is anything but a legless smear job.
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Kokoro Wish posted:Lol if you think that investigation is anything but a legless smear job.
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Kokoro Wish posted:Lol if you think that investigation is anything but a legless smear job. It began under obama so it's obviously a neoliberal plot
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Wait, is Debbie Wasserman Schultz back in a lead role in "The Resistence™"? Oh god these people are loving roaches. JeffersonClay posted:It began under obama so it's obviously a neoliberal plot Correct. Though it began with a conversation based on hearsay with a Republican in Vermont. The bank that they say was defrauded have made no complaint, by the way. Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Jul 15, 2017 |
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Kokoro Wish posted:Considering it began Jan 2016, then yes. This was just another bullet in the clip of smears. uh, magazine of spears get your anti-obama rhetoric on point Oh you edited, 
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I did, I said "bullet in the clip of smears" and thought it just sounded awkward. Also: https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/885357305268711424
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From what I understand about the Bernie investigation (or rather the investigation on his wife), it seems like there's a reasonable chance his wife hosed up, but there isn't any evidence of Sanders himself being involved (I believe the specific accusation was that he pressured the bank to approve the loan or something). Though there's a certain degree of irony to seeing many of the same people who (correctly) said Hillary shouldn't be condemned due to the actions of her husband turning around and doing the same thing to someone who happens to be a political opponent.
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Ytlaya posted:From what I understand about the Bernie investigation (or rather the investigation on his wife), it seems like there's a reasonable chance his wife hosed up, but there isn't any evidence of Sanders himself being involved (I believe the specific accusation was that he pressured the bank to approve the loan or something). I think I see the problem.
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It's pretty hilarious that with all the loving in-your-face fraud by the Trumps going on, hand-wringing about Bernie's supposed malfeasance is downright quaint.
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skylined! posted:i think their choice to uh, keep their name and political affiliation would disagree with your version of the facts yeah, the ok dem party is affiliated, but this is not a democratic party victory as the democratic party has left said oklahoma dem party abandoned for ages. maybe you idiots that have never lived in the state think obama and the rest should be credited with this victory, but the lack of support from the national party for decades really makes this an oklahoman victory, not a democratic party one. hope that clears things up for you
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Kokoro Wish posted:Lol if you think that investigation is anything but a legless smear job. yes, but I don't discount the possibility of the Trump admin trying to perform a leg transplant
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Saying six years ago to a lending committee that Burlington College had a chance of surviving as a legitimate educational institution is pretty cool. Not as cool as backing up classified poo poo on a server in your personal residence because you're just that bad with computers, or claiming it couldn't have been solicitication from the FSB because your firstborn son is actually a potato in a suit and legumes cannot act in a strictly legal sense, but still pretty cool.
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From what I understand the issue is that the loan application may have included specific lies (as opposed to just saying "I think we can pay this off" and that not being the case). Like saying "We're supposed to get $X from this person in a year" when that isn't true. edit: I mean it's not something I personally care about, but if that's true I think it could definitely get her in trouble. edit2: Like, I feel like any time a bank gives a loan they're choosing to take a risk, and if they don't do due diligence it's their problem.
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Mister Facetious posted:Like Cincinnati having chilli on spaghetti.
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I was phone posting, gimme a break.
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Inescapable Duck posted:The terrifying thing is that Donald Trump is the most identifiable, human candidate. He's a slimy used car salesman who inherited too much money, but he still has more in common with most people than the reptilians both parties tried to present.
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Oxxidation posted:how is someone as stupid as you permitted to loving live JeffersonClay posted:It began under obama so it's obviously a neoliberal plot
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posting videos of thread regulars is against the forum rules, fyi
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Where is our Nixon avatar fella anyway?
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Kilroy posted:posting videos of thread regulars is against the forum rules, fyi Who's a regular on the what now? I found that tweet in a Raw Story article on the subject.
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Kokoro Wish posted:Who's a regular on the what now? I found that tweet in a Raw Story article on the subject. 
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WampaLord posted:
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i am harry posted:Why the gently caress is zuck in somebody's house? Who the gently caress does this house belong to because it certainly isn't bread boy's?! I have all these questions and more. Sadly, I have no answers to give. A theory may be that his AI sprang a bug and his home address GPS unit lost tracking.
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Somebody edit it so there's robot noises as he moves and chews and stuff. Thank you.
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Jizz Festival posted:Somebody edit it so there's robot noises as he moves and chews and stuff. Thank you. Got you fam https://gifsound.com/?gif=i.imgur.com/nBNion2.gif&v=JvucqsHktVo
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Ytlaya posted:From what I understand the issue is that the loan application may have included specific lies (as opposed to just saying "I think we can pay this off" and that not being the case). Like saying "We're supposed to get $X from this person in a year" when that isn't true. the argument i heard wrt that was that those were pledges, and pledges tend to break their funding promises all the time. cause that's what they are, promises and not contracts. likewise, said pledges are likely to lie and say "i didn't offer $X support!" if it comes out that they pledged $X but ended up giving $Y, because going back on your word is p embarrassing, and them doing such tanked the college the pledged to support.
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Hey now, some times you have to make compromises and that's the best we can do in a republican stronghold like New York City. Sorry Fernando Cabrera isn't pure enough for you but did you see the other guys?
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Condiv posted:yeah, the ok dem party is affiliated, but this is not a democratic party victory as the democratic party has left said oklahoma dem party abandoned for ages. maybe you idiots that have never lived in the state think obama and the rest should be credited with this victory, but the lack of support from the national party for decades really makes this an oklahoman victory, not a democratic party one. hope that clears things up for you Condiv posted:uh, maybe you're under the impression that the ok dem party should be considered part of the dems what are goalposts, anyway
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skylined! posted:what are goalposts, anyway are you incapable of reading? cause the two posts quoted neither conflict with each other nor constitute a change in stance. like you seem to be thinking i was saying the oklahoma dem party is not part of the dem party, which is a p smoothbrained interpretation of what I wrote. the ok dems should not be considered part of the dem party because of the dem party's abandonment of them. as far as the dem party was concerned until a week ago, oklahoma democrats were non-existant.
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