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FuturePastNow posted:With enough power, it will disintegrate objects, a process known as the rapid nadion effect. I've always liked how when a phaser vaporizes something, there's no vapor. If you think about it, if you disintegrate a person, there should be well over a hundred pounds of gaseous meat blown forcefully out into the room.
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Timby posted:From Discovery, Klingons L'Rell and T'Kuvma: Maybe Klingons have such outrageous hair to cover up their football heads #dontshavetheklingons
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Jul 16, 2017 05:25
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It's always possible that some gun stunners are just a totally different device built into the same gun. Makes a lot more sense that way, to be honest.
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Jul 16, 2017 05:39
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Powered Descent posted:I've always liked how when a phaser vaporizes something, there's no vapor. If you think about it, if you disintegrate a person, there should be well over a hundred pounds of gaseous meat blown forcefully out into the room. I vaguely remember an analysis somebody wrote on Usenet years ago about what would happen if you actually fired a hand-held phaser and disintegrated something and they concluded that the object being disintegrated would emit so much gamma and x-ray radiation that it would instantly kill everyone nearby, even if you somehow suppressed the nuclear bomb of converting, say, an average adult humanoid into energy.
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shadok posted:I vaguely remember an analysis somebody wrote on Usenet years ago about what would happen if you actually fired a hand-held phaser and disintegrated something and they concluded that the object being disintegrated would emit so much gamma and x-ray radiation that it would instantly kill everyone nearby, even if you somehow suppressed the nuclear bomb of converting, say, an average adult humanoid into energy. Maybe they've found a reaction that displaces all of the energy into subspace.
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The "disruptor" setting is just a very tiny transporter that just doesn't bother to rematerialize anything after shifting it into subspace.
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Jul 16, 2017 05:56
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8one6 posted:The "disruptor" setting is just a very tiny transporter that just doesn't bother to rematerialize anything after shifting it into subspace. If there's air in realspace is there air in subspace? I like the idea that subspace is just littered with corpses and there's giant squid aliens there that have no clue what the gently caress's going on
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vermin posted:If there's air in realspace is there air in subspace? I like the idea that subspace is just littered with corpses and there's giant squid aliens there that have no clue what the gently caress's going on
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Jul 16, 2017 06:02
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Giant squid alien in subspace takes his family out for a picnic on a world. Then a battle from the Dominion War takes place there. "Why does this keep happening? Where are they all coming from?" "It's those wormhole fuckers Jerry, I know it."
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Man, for all the poo poo Barclay gets, he ends up being pretty brave, because If I were him, I'd never take the transporter again after something like that happened.
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Jul 16, 2017 06:07
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WampaLord posted:Man, for all the poo poo Barclay gets, he ends up being pretty brave, because If I were him, I'd never take the transporter again after something like that happened. That poo poo probably also gave him a free pass on every other neurotic thing he did for at least the next year. Barclay likely got a lot of mileage out of "...but that's what you said about the things in the transporter beam..."
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Powered Descent posted:I've always liked how when a phaser vaporizes something, there's no vapor. If you think about it, if you disintegrate a person, there should be well over a hundred pounds of gaseous meat blown forcefully out into the room. ToS phasers were rad because the kill setting just enveloped the dude and made him plink out of existence. TNG looked more painful, like sub-atomic fire slowly enveloping your body. Except, apparently, if you're a spine-slug, then your body takes several moments to slowly decompose and then violently explode. Then again, the best phaser deaths are the ones that look like a glancing blow or non-lethal arm shot.
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Jul 16, 2017 06:14
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Captain Terrell's death is peak phaser
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FuturePastNow posted:Captain Terrell's death is peak phaser Or as the actor put it: "I died so the white man could live" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52UNNeBZSoM&t=100s
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Terrell's death would have been even better had the phaser malfunctioned and he was exploded into a thousand pieces in front of everybody.
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FuturePastNow posted:Captain Terrell's death is peak phaser Yet to be topped.
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Orv posted:Yet to be topped. TNG did explode a guy's head in Conspiracy. But that was almost corny whereas Terrell's death is nightmarish.
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FilthyImp posted:ToS phasers were rad because the kill setting just enveloped the dude and made him plink out of existence. Please tell me someone has that gif of the deaf guy's translators being disintegrated in stages from early TNG, that was such a  moment when I was a kid.
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FuturePastNow posted:TNG did explode a guy's head in Conspiracy. But that was almost corny whereas Terrell's death is nightmarish. Yeah, I wince every time Terrell dies, most TNG and other TV deaths are just funny.
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Terrell's death isn't much better than the lady who gets hit with "the most lethal weapon" Varon-T disruptor in The Most Toys. Dude could've saved himself some money on those disruptors and just bought himself a bunch of 23rd century Starfleet phasers from a military surplus store. The sound they make is really something too. There's a kick there which most other Trek weapon effects don't have.
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Jul 16, 2017 07:32
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The best phaser death is from Conspiracy, when Riker and Picard made that dude's loving head explode and then when an alien melted out of his upper body they loving melted that too
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Tighclops posted:The best phaser death is from Conspiracy, when Riker and Picard made that dude's loving head explode and then when an alien melted out of his upper body they loving melted that too 
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Delsaber posted:The sound they make is really something too. There's a kick there which most other Trek weapon effects don't have. Trek sound effects in general got lamer and lamer as the series ticked by. Voyager's sound effects are largely hot garbage, but even DS9 wasn't great in this regard.
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Tighclops posted:The best phaser death is from Conspiracy, when Riker and Picard made that dude's loving head explode and then when an alien melted out of his upper body they loving melted that too That freaked me out because I'd never watched the original series so I had no idea phasers could disintegrate you. I thought the "kill" setting just stopped your heart or something.
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Delsaber posted:Terrell's death isn't much better than the lady who gets hit with "the most lethal weapon" Varon-T disruptor in The Most Toys. Dude could've saved himself some money on those disruptors and just bought himself a bunch of 23rd century Starfleet phasers from a military surplus store. Yeah both the hand and ship phasers in WoK have this almost vicious, piercing burst in the sound effect, they weren't loving around. When TNG rolled around they had the idea of the phaser as a tool that could also be a weapon, hence the dustbuster shape and dozens of settings.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:The Star Trek sub on Reddit has been tearing itself apart over Discovery. Things seem more level-headed here. I just watched the trailer (i don't really follow entertainment news so i didn't even know that this existed before 5 minutes ago), it looks like another overdramatised outing. Star Trek is supposed to be quaint and nerdy, not all lensflares and intense dialogue, it just doesn't work if it's like that. Star Trek is good if you take some really pretty decent actors, force them to make the best of dumb dialogue and absurd situations, and add some jokes and stuff.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Trek sound effects in general got lamer and lamer as the series ticked by. Voyager's sound effects are largely hot garbage, but even DS9 wasn't great in this regard. The props got lamer, too. I think it culminated with Nemesis, where the tricorder was literally a Palm Pilot with some greebles on it, because gently caress you John Eaves.
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Timby posted:The props got lamer, too. I think it culminated with Nemesis, where the tricorder was literally a Palm Pilot with some greebles on it, because gently caress you John Eaves. At least it wasn't a lady's razor with poo poo glued to it. 
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Timby posted:The props got lamer, too. I think it culminated with Nemesis, where the tricorder was literally a Palm Pilot with some greebles on it, because gently caress you John Eaves. It's sad when a tongue-in-cheek version of 2017 from Parks and Rec has cooler, more futuristic-feeling devices than a Star Trek film.
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Mister Kingdom posted:At least it wasn't a lady's razor with poo poo glued to it. How do you think Qui-gon got the blood sample, smartass?
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:My four year olds call Star Trek "a boring daddy show" which honestly isn't too far off the mark. I'm gonna say don't worry too much on that front. I did the exact same thing with my Dad at age 4. Come my sixth birthday it was nothing but Star Trek poo poo that I wanted and I'd fallen deep into the rabbit hole.
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Show them Star Trek The Animated Series. I dunno, I liked it as a kid. Though I think I only watched the episode with the space devil and Spock becoming a wizard.
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Picard goes for the standard body shot but Riker doesn't have time for that poo poo
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Those car alarm phasers looked terrible.
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hiddenriverninja posted:Those car alarm phasers looked terrible. 
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It wasn't a bad show then! It wasn't!
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I've probably mentioned this before, but someone modded the Final Frontier/Undiscovered Country assault phaser into Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 4. It's a ton of fun to use and has all the expected badass effects intact, though it's a little tricky sometimes due to the lack of ironsights on the prop. http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/56974/ http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12987/ Also the Giant Bomb guys finally did their Bridge Crew run. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f5BLSiyARs
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Delsaber posted:Also the Giant Bomb guys finally did their Bridge Crew run.
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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/886755779419787264 I am very sad about this. Martin Landau had a long and distinguished career but I'm a child of the 1970s and my childhood was all about Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, Doctor Who and Space: 1999. To me he'll always be John Koenig, commander of Moonbase Alpha. He was a lifelong friend of Leonard Nimoy - they were often up for the same roles - and Landau was offered the role of Mr. Spock but turned it down. When Nimoy passed away, Landau wrote a short remembrance in Time Magazine. I will miss him.
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Nessus posted:I think a lot of this was to accomodate the various cool and innovative things people on TOS did with the phasers. Which to some extent is good, like Chekov shooting a rock with his phaser to make it glow and produce heat is way cooler than "oh I will build a fire," even if nowadays it would be the latter with lovingly gritty survival-show photography. Also a capability that would have come in handy so many times in other episodes. But that episode also involved a mafia planet of perfect mimics without a native culture of their own who then constructed one entirely out of a book on the Chicago mobsters that someone left there, and Kirk coming in as the biggest badass kingpin of them all and taking over the planet in the name of the Federation in exchange for a hefty cut of GDP, so you could just chalk the whole thing up to an invention by James Kirk, biggest tall tale teller in the quadrant. E: Sort of like Paris' "one time in the Delta Quadrant I revolutionized physics by going infinite speed, but then I turned into a salamander and hosed Janeway and salamander babies came out and one of the babies looked at me, and then we all swore never to reveal the secret of infinite speed, wish I could tell you how I did it, oh about me being a newt well I got better" story 
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