Warhammer 40k 8th Editlon: It's not heresy if the reality balls don't touch

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Moola: Aug 16, 2006

# ? Jul 17, 2017 15:31

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# ? May 8, 2024 22:56

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Chill la Chill posted:

Hm, this sounds exactly like the plan from way back in 3rd edition, but I wasn't around for that. Didn't they have the internet campaign (and 2+ people per store) back then?

Third edition was when I got in and was easily the most fun era of 40k imo

# ? Jul 17, 2017 15:39

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Indolent Bastard posted:

I guess. I play orks, so I don't much care. Also LOL if you play with anyone but friends/cool bros, and hopefully at someone's house (with beer).

For some people the FLGS or a local club are the only places a game can be had, which is why a game that's just barely well written enough to be houseruled between friends over beer in a basement into some semblance of effectiveness isn't close to being actually well written.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 15:43

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berzerkmonkey posted:

Sorry, you're wrong. The new Ork bikes are way awesome.

I'm so sorry about your Stockholm syndrome.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 15:48

TheChirurgeon: Aug 7, 2002; Remember how good you are; Taco Defender

The newer ork bikes are cool, though. They look appropriately ramshackle and Mad Max

# ? Jul 17, 2017 15:56

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# ? Jul 17, 2017 15:57

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NTRabbit posted:

For some people the FLGS or a local club are the only places a game can be had, which is why a game that's just barely well written enough to be houseruled between friends over beer in a basement into some semblance of effectiveness isn't close to being actually well written.

I play with friends even though we have tons of local FLGS and GW stores around if we wanted to play with strangers. And even then we've split the 40k starter (discounted, only $70 total after we sold the rulebook) to use for other games because :lol:

at putting up with looking up bullshit rules getting in the way of our gaming.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:00

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TheChirurgeon posted:

The newer ork bikes are cool, though. They look appropriately ramshackle and Mad Max

They just don't do anything for me. I don't like where the guns are, I don't like all the bits, and I hate how they've painted it so the legs of the rider vanish into the vehicle. A big appeal of the Gorkamorka bike is that it didn't have the side guns, it was just a dude on a bike with a pistol.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:06

berzerkmonkey: Jul 23, 2003

Atlas Hugged posted:

I'm so sorry about your Stockholm syndrome.

Yeah, I guess you're right. This:

is vastly superior to this:

I'm just slobbing all over GW's nob over this one.

Atlas Hugged posted:

A big appeal of the Gorkamorka bike is that it didn't have the side guns, it was just a dude on a bike with a pistol.

You realize this was a choice, right? Someone left the guns off, because the kit came with the side guns.

berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Jul 17, 2017

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:10

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berzerkmonkey posted:

I'm just slobbing all over GW's nob over this one.

I really wish we knew what brain disease you had so we could help you.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:13

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berzerkmonkey posted:

You realize this was a choice, right? Someone left the guns off, because the kit came with the side guns.

Yes, I get that it was based on the plastic kit of the time. It also included some neat metal components and the marketing was based around showing it as a cool dude on a cool bike for a cool game.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:15

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Indolent Bastard posted:

95% compared to some other games? Maybe. But compared to 7th ed. they are a big improvement.

Bigly marines are just this years model. Very few people don't like them. They look nice. As always they are way too expensive, but if you don't just hate the look of Space Marines, they are really nice.

The thing is, 30k is proof that 7th was mostly fine before GW's design team kept bolting things onto it. The same people who did that are also working on 8th.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:27

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berzerkmonkey posted:

Yeah, I guess you're right. This:

is vastly superior to this:

I'm just slobbing all over GW's nob over this one.

You realize this was a choice, right? Someone left the guns off, because the kit came with the side guns.

I habe the feeling that the very different quality of painting makes this post a tad disingenuous :v:

That being said, the second bike rules imo

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:37

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Fathis Munk posted:

I habe the feeling that the very different quality of painting makes this post a tad disingenuous

That being said, the second bike rules imo

The first bike is Rogue Trader era. The second is a conversion that borrows design elements from 2e and Gorkamorka, such as the trakks.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:43

berzerkmonkey: Jul 23, 2003

Fathis Munk posted:

I habe the feeling that the very different quality of painting makes this post a tad disingenuous

That being said, the second bike rules imo

I honestly tried to find an image of an old Ork bike that was larger than a postage stamp, but couldn't. I thought about the painting disparity, but decided to post anyway, as the image sizes were pretty close.

I mean, there are parts of the old bikes that I liked, and I still have a pile of them in the basement ready for GM. That said, the newer bikes are just better.

EDIT: Found one:

Better paint job, still not a better model than the new bikes.

Atlas Hugged posted:

The first bike is Rogue Trader era. The second is a conversion that borrows design elements from 2e and Gorkamorka, such as the trakks.

Good lord, it's a FW Nob bike, not a conversion.

berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Jul 17, 2017

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:47

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berzerkmonkey posted:

I honestly tried to find an image of an old Ork bike that was larger than a postage stamp, but couldn't. I thought about the painting disparity, but decided to post anyway, as the image sizes were pretty close.

I mean, there are parts of the old bikes that I liked, and I still have a pile of them in the basement ready for GM. That said, the newer bikes are just better.

EDIT: Found one:

Better paint job, still not a better model than the new bikes.

Good lord, it's a FW Nob bike, not a conversion.

Sorry, this bike rules

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:53

berzerkmonkey: Jul 23, 2003

Iron Crowned posted:

Sorry, this bike rules

Didn't say it was bad, just that new ones are better. But, as Atlas Hugged likes to point out, it is a conversion, so I guess it's discredited?

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:55

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NTRabbit posted:

For some people the FLGS or a local club are the only places a game can be had, which is why a game that's just barely well written enough to be houseruled between friends over beer in a basement into some semblance of effectiveness isn't close to being actually well written.

Just out of curiosity, what games do you play?

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:55

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berzerkmonkey posted:

Good lord, it's a FW Nob bike, not a conversion.

I'm sorry I don't have extensive knowledge of the GW range not mentioned on their website.

Also if it was a conversion it wouldn't count. Anyone can make an awesome conversion and it has nothing to do with the models being sold.

Atlas Hugged fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jul 17, 2017

# ? Jul 17, 2017 16:56

berzerkmonkey: Jul 23, 2003

Atlas Hugged posted:

I'm sorry I don't have extensive knowledge of the GW range not mentioned on their website.

Also if it was a conversion it wouldn't count. Anyone can make an awesome conversion and it has nothing to do with the models being sold.

"Good lord" was more my frustration with your response, as opposed to you not knowing the entire GW line. I don't think the older bikes are terrible - it's mostly their riders that suck and make the entire model look bad. But, the new bikes are ramshackle and spiky, and are proper Orky.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 17:13

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Indolent Bastard posted:

Just out of curiosity, what games do you play?

All I've played recently is Kings of War, though it wouldn't matter either way, because none of my friends play minis games. I also don't have a FLGS with gaming tables within an hours drive, which means I have to hit up one of the three clubs here.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 17:16

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berzerkmonkey posted:

"Good lord" was more my frustration with your response, as opposed to you not knowing the entire GW line. I don't think the older bikes are terrible - it's mostly their riders that suck and make the entire model look bad. But, the new bikes are ramshackle and spiky, and are proper Orky.

My point still stands though, a dynamic paint job and design elements borrowed from a model I actually like make that one way better than the offering you'd find on the GW site.

For reference this is the version I like. I think the rider is fine. He doesn't have a stupid WW1 hat.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 17:28

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NTRabbit posted:

All I've played recently is Kings of War, though it wouldn't matter either way, because none of my friends play minis games. I also don't have a FLGS with gaming tables within an hours drive, which means I have to hit up one of the three clubs here.

That sucks. Genuinely sorry to hear about your situation.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 17:29

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NTRabbit posted:

All I've played recently is Kings of War, though it wouldn't matter either way, because none of my friends play minis games. I also don't have a FLGS with gaming tables within an hours drive, which means I have to hit up one of the three clubs here.

Feel free to holiday in Bangkok.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 17:30