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Pryor on Fire posted:The cyclists around here do this terribly annoying thing where they feel like they can cut the double line on windy two lane roads, why they think this is a good idea on blind turns is beyond me, gotta shave .2 seconds off the downhill I guess? Like five or six a year get merked doing this and clipping an oncoming car so you'd think they'd learn but nope. Those 5 or 6 probably do learn, albeit for a very brief period. Notorious b.s.d. posted:HR's job is to filter the ever-living gently caress out of candidates to "avoid wasting anyone's time." the HR people have absolutely nothing to gain from a successful hire, but they will be blamed if anything goes wrong with an individual candidate. so it's in their best interest to aggressively filter out anyone who asks for a nickel more than the salary band on the internal req. if that means there are no candidates remaining, that's ok, it's "a tight market" Clearly we need more H1Bs! 
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Bhodi posted:"The policy tracks with some of Nardini's other beliefs about work-life balance. In her Times interview, she said she valued work ethic to the extent it matters "more than most anything," and that young people new to their careers should get comfortable with discomfort. lastjob's CEO was known to have said on more than occasion that he fervently believed every employee should feel like they could be fired at any moment and should fear for their jobs he's a total rear end in a top hat and i hope he dies in penury
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i assume this is my infrastructure and security experience leaking but expecting a reply within a 3 hour window for a critical issue seems p reasonable. having the ceo text you just to see if you have the moxie is v dumb though.
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Diva Cupcake posted:i assume this is my infrastructure and security experience leaking but expecting a reply within a 3 hour window for a critical issue seems p reasonable. having the ceo text you just to see if you have the moxie is v dumb though. If this is something that you want me to be concerned about as a part of my job then I'm fine with that as long as it's clearly laid out as a part of the requirements and I'm getting paid for it.
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ThePeavstenator posted:If this is something that you want me to be concerned about as a part of my job then I'm fine with that as long as it's clearly laid out as a part of the requirements and I'm getting paid for it. yeah this exactly. if you really need someone to be responsive on the weekend, you need to pay someone to be on-call.
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oh neat a video on my facebook feed popped up from barstool sports and it was a girl at the club peeing into an empty glass of water nice to know i will get texts over the weekend to make sure people can share such amazing content on facebook, twitter, and instagram
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Jul 17, 2017 21:53
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Tatsujin posted:empty glass of water 
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Jul 17, 2017 21:58
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:yeah this exactly. if you really need someone to be responsive on the weekend, you need to pay someone to be on-call. except for computer workers, in which case the on-call is unpaid because there's a giant fuckin exemption in labor law
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Jul 18, 2017 00:55
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:except for computer workers, in which case the on-call is unpaid because there's a giant fuckin exemption in labor law if my employer started demanding unpaid on-call i'd start finding a different job immediately
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:except for computer workers, in which case the on-call is unpaid because there's a giant fuckin exemption in labor law
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ShadowHawk posted:lol if you don't get paid for being oncall even if you don't get paged trap sprung
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Jul 18, 2017 02:06
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lol if there's any urgency to your work at all
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Jul 18, 2017 02:34
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if I'm being called after hours the company better be losing a million dollars an hour or more. and I expect to be recognized for it later.
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Jul 18, 2017 02:41
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if I'm being called after hours due to an outage I've failed in my job designing the system and so deserve to be called for it
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Jul 18, 2017 02:43
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Cocoa Crispies posted:lol if there's any urgency to your work at all
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Jul 18, 2017 06:13
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At a company I used to work for we used this loving awful job scheduler called JAMS that would break at even the slightest breeze. I knew people who were being paged at 3am every single night for a whole week due to problems with JAMS, and the best part about it is there was absolutely nothing they would be able to do about it. They weren't even compensated for the oncall time rofl.
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Jul 18, 2017 06:24
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qhat posted:At a company I used to work for we used this loving awful job scheduler called JAMS that would break at even the slightest breeze. I knew people who were being paged at 3am every single night for a whole week due to problems with JAMS, and the best part about it is there was absolutely nothing they would be able to do about it. They weren't even compensated for the oncall time rofl. owned
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quote:Thank you for your interest in joining our team here at COMPANY. We have reviewed your application and unfortunately are looking for a different skill set at this time. However, if a role opens up in the future that may be a better fit, we'd love to be in touch. got this today. I accepted a job two months ago, and it was probably a couple of months before that that I applied there, which I only did because I confused them with another company. lol.
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Jul 18, 2017 07:26
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did a pretty intense take home assignment tonight, create a web scraper, scrape some websites, put the data in a db i designed, write test drivers, create documentation, upload to git, all while trying to design the whole thing in an extendable way as allegedly they are going to ask me to extend it IRL in an interview. took longer than i thought it would.
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MononcQc posted:if you want me to worry about the job and the health of the business as much as the CEO does, you'd better be paying me CEO money that's not the job of the ceo either (it's to raise shareholder value) qhat posted:did a pretty intense take home assignment tonight, create a web scraper, scrape some websites, put the data in a db i designed, write test drivers, create documentation, upload to git, all while trying to design the whole thing in an extendable way as allegedly they are going to ask me to extend it IRL in an interview. took longer than i thought it would. this "take home assignment" is too thorough. i hope you GPL3'd it.
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:this "take home assignment" is too thorough. i hope you GPL3'd it. according to them it's supposed to take a maximum of 6 hours to do. i did it in just over 6 but goddamn my head was spinning afterwards. there's no way this kind of volume in such a short time leads to good solutions.
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:that's not the job of the ceo either (it's to raise shareholder value) AGPL to ensure no one anywhere ever uses it
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qhat posted:did a pretty intense take home assignment tonight, create a web scraper, scrape some websites, put the data in a db i designed, write test drivers, create documentation, upload to git, all while trying to design the whole thing in an extendable way as allegedly they are going to ask me to extend it IRL in an interview. took longer than i thought it would. nope. this is waaaaaay too much effort for a take home assignment.
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Jul 18, 2017 14:30
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that's a real candidate for outsourcing pilot work to prospective hires if I've ever heard one
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Jul 18, 2017 14:33
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Cocoa Crispies posted:lol if there's any urgency to your work at all
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qhat posted:did a pretty intense take home assignment tonight, create a web scraper, scrape some websites, put the data in a db i designed, write test drivers, create documentation, upload to git, all while trying to design the whole thing in an extendable way as allegedly they are going to ask me to extend it IRL in an interview. took longer than i thought it would. Yeah this is too much... Take home assignments are my favorite type of interview, but they should be little toy problems. If anyone did ICPC in college I think they should be like on of their medium difficulty problems: takes a couple of hours, more if you wanna get fancy with inputs/outputs, tests, etc
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Jul 18, 2017 14:57
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The one we sometimes assign has you find the biggest "blob" of x's in a 2d array of x's and o's. Lots of different ways to solve it (BFS, DFS, scanning 2 lines at a time and keeping a running tally...), and you can tell a lot about their code quality from it. Plus you can throw tricky edge cases like enormous 2d arrays and see if their solution handles it
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Jul 18, 2017 14:59
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qhat posted:did a pretty intense take home assignment tonight, create a web scraper, scrape some websites, put the data in a db i designed, write test drivers, create documentation, upload to git, all while trying to design the whole thing in an extendable way as allegedly they are going to ask me to extend it IRL in an interview. took longer than i thought it would. yeah I hope you threw a license on this because it's way way way too thorough for a take home assignment. this screams someone was being lazy and outsourcing their interview framework 
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lol at requiring almost a full day of work for a take home assignment. these guys don't respect your time
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quote:Love for you to take a crack at the challenge. The time range to get it back to me ranges depending on skill level and amount of free time you have to do it. 7 days max but sooner is always amazing! Good luck! this prompted me to read more about the company and see how much I really wanted this. turns out the ceo is a massive narcissist who keeps getting accounts banned from wikipedia for editing his own wikipedia entry & he had a conference sexism scandal apparently & there have been comments on HN warning about this company
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Flat Daddy posted:this prompted me to read more about the company and see how much I really wanted this. turns out the ceo is a massive narcissist who keeps getting accounts banned from wikipedia for editing his own wikipedia entry & he had a conference sexism scandal apparently & there have been comments on HN warning about this company banzai bill dodged
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Writing a webscraper with tests seems like a fine homework problem
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VOTE YES ON 69 posted:Writing a webscraper with tests seems like a fine homework problem as always it depends on how complicated it needs to be
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last time I did a long take home they never even called/emailed me back after the interview to tell me no it was a good lesson
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Bhodi posted:if I'm being called after hours due to an outage I've failed in my job designing the system and so deserve to be called for it lol if you think that not achieving 100% availability is necessarily a failure on your part
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i'll do homework assignments if they seem pretty interesting / in technologies i've been meaning to try but never had a good reason to use. i was rejected once because "that isn't how you are supposed to do something like that in this framework" and welp, i didn't know. i even told him i hadn't used the framework before doing that assignment one assignment involved building a fully-deployed web application that did all sorts of crazy poo poo and i just couldn't be assed to bother. they wanted to "disrupt the trucking industry" so i already had all the red flags i needed
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Pretty much only did it because the role is fairly senior and the company looks like a good company otherwise. If it seemed like a huge corporate machine with questionable reviews on glassdoor, I most likely would've told them to shove their assessment back where it belongs.
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Ploft-shell crab posted:last time I did a long take home they never even called/emailed me back after the interview to tell me no IMO that's super unprofessional and sounds like an outlier. My opinion is that the second the company speaks to you on the phone to say they're interested, they should have the courtesy to tell you when they're not interested and in good time.
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qhat posted:IMO that's super unprofessional and sounds like an outlier. My opinion is that the second the company speaks to you on the phone to say they're interested, they should have the courtesy to tell you when they're not interested and in good time. I got ghosted after an onsite once
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