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Mike Lee is worthless, and almost certainly opposes the bill because it isn't cruel enough, but his "no" vote is still technically the correct vote. This increases my opinion of him from "hot soggy turd" to "tepid soggy turd."
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HappyHippo posted:Sessions still sucks God what a dick. Asset forfeiture of all loving things. How appropriate.
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Thank gently caress but let's not assume this thing won't rise from the dead in the very near future
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BarbarianElephant posted:Wikipedia sez about Drug Courts: She supports them not because they divert addicts from the justice system(e.g. it is better than just jailing them) but precisely because rehab w/o the threat of jail is ineffective in her view. E.g. criminalization is a good and necessary tool in regards to addiction. Read the context - she spells that out in her reaction to what is a news article about a treatment facility being stood up in that district. This is a poo poo opinion in my view.
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If McCain dies, there would be two competitive senate elections in Arizona next year. (I'm not trying to be ghoulish. Those are the facts.)
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https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/887109581587066880 Gotta say, I didn't see Mike Lee putting the third knife in
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mdemone posted:When did this happen? Did McCain's surgery/recovery give the dumbfucks enough cover to flee the sinking ship? Even if it just bought enough time for otherwise lovely, lovely lobbyists to blowtorch into Mike Lee's cranial cavity, McCain's blood clot may go down in history as a pivotal entity.
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Morans reasoning for his no. https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/887109142288232449 I reiterate, lol.
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Jul 18, 2017 01:42
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Keep on eating eachother you stupid evil fucks
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McCain found that the only winning move was not to play.
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I think Lee's doing this at least in part because McCain's absence means they'll start going into crunch time immediately on the spending bill
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Those are the smart Senators, who took this opportunity where the bill was basically dead in the water to jump ship. Meanwhile Heller has still not said anything but I'm sure now that it doesn't matter he will come out against the bill. Is McConnell going to try a 3rd time?
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BarbarianElephant posted:Despite all the evil, I just think of Nestle Sweetened Condensed Milk, the most delicious substance ever invented by mankind. Put it on fruit pies. Hollismason posted:That video from the NRA is really kind of terrifying. farraday posted:Game set match. Also loving lol.  Violent Left!BiggerBoat posted:God what a dick. Asset forfeiture of all loving things. How appropriate. 
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/887103126922309636 I'm getting more and more seriously concerned by the minute, meaning I will gladly vote for him to die.
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I am deeply concerned about McCain's health.
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Ralepozozaxe posted:McCain found that the only winning move was not to play. By perpetually being in a state of near death he has finally crippled Trump in ways that he's too chickenshit to actually undo with force. If and when Trump fails in killing him to make sure he doesn't cause a republican made government shutdown or worse, a government with no budget just rolling off like its Indiana, he won't even be able to have the time to focus on defending Russia when he'll have to deny the economic crisis.
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How are republicans anti-regulation and yet still (supposedly) want to protect people with pre-existing conditions? Seems like those are mutually exclusive ideas 
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It's probably worth noting that while everyone seems to hate the Democrats for their ability to compromise with Republicans, the Republicans can't pass their signature un-legislation because they can't compromise with each other.Mind_Taker posted:How are republicans anti-regulation and yet still (supposedly) want to protect people with pre-existing conditions? Seems like those are mutually exclusive ideas I mean I'm sure the answer you're looking for is, "lol all Republicans are ethically bankrupt" and that might be true; but it's hypothetically possible to maintain "regulations are generally bad" and "some regulations are so important they outweigh other considerations" at the same time. Mendrian fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Those are the smart Senators, who took this opportunity where the bill was basically dead in the water to jump ship. Meanwhile Heller has still not said anything but I'm sure now that it doesn't matter he will come out against the bill. If we're talking about ACA repeal, that would technically be the 57th time.
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Get this: Trump is going to wake up to this news tomorrow.
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mdemone posted:Get this: Trump is going to wake up to this news tomorrow. At 3 am, wake me if it's glorious.
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Mind_Taker posted:How are republicans anti-regulation and yet still (supposedly) want to protect people with pre-existing conditions? Seems like those are mutually exclusive ideas They realize that protection for pre-existing conditions is one of the really popular parts of the ACA. Problem is they've painted themselves into a corner, because the way to make sure that PEC coverage doesn't cause prices to skyrocket is to diversify the risk pool, perhaps by mandating that everyone purchase coverage, individually
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Mind_Taker posted:How are republicans anti-regulation and yet still (supposedly) want to protect people with pre-existing conditions? Seems like those are mutually exclusive ideas Protecting pre-existing conditions polls insanely high: 59% for Republicans and 68% for independents. It'd be political suicide. http://www.kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/kaiser-health-tracking-poll-june-2017-aca-replacement-plan-and-medicaid/
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Jesus Christ. I'm six pages behind. So where's the page where you idiots finally shut the gently caress up about fast food and Chic Fil A so I can skip ahead? WTF is it about this god damned forum and every thread in it and loving junk food?
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Bueno Papi posted:Protecting pre-existing conditions polls insanely high: 59% for Republicans and 68% for independents. It'd be political suicide. I have to say, I am enjoying watching reactionary scumbags trapped in the inverse of the Lieberman Problem.
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mdemone posted:When did this happen? Did McCain's surgery/recovery give the dumbfucks enough cover to flee the sinking ship? Mike Lee apparently listened to and trusted insurance experts who told him that it would be terrible, and Moran was one of the only GOP senators who held town halls during the July 4 recess so maybe his voters swayed him. Anyway, they both came out at the same time because neither wanted to be Senator #3.
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mdemone posted:Get this: Drumpf is going to wake up to this news tomorrow. Awww, did he get tuckered out from his big day seeing the fire truck?
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The rats are gonna start jumping ship and there'll be like 10 nos by the end of the week.
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Mind_Taker posted:How are republicans anti-regulation and yet still (supposedly) want to protect people with pre-existing conditions? Seems like those are mutually exclusive ideas
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Bueno Papi posted:Protecting pre-existing conditions polls insanely high: 59% for Republicans and 68% for independents. It'd be political suicide. It's amazing that 41% of Republicans and almost 1/3 of independents aren't in favor of protections for pre-existing conditions. The staggering ignorance and/or malice behind that belief is both hilarious and terrifying.
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BiggerBoat posted:Jesus Christ. I'm six pages behind. So where's the page where you idiots finally shut the gently caress up about fast food and Chic Fil A so I can skip ahead? WTF is it about this god damned forum and every thread in it and loving junk food? Dunno, you tell me. Relatedly, how do you feel about Grub Burger?
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Isn't this poo poo exactly why we have three separate branches of government, so that the Executive doesn't get to control who gets into the Legislative branch? Is this somehow not wildly illegal, in addition to being clearly unethical? Or is this yet another case where the founding Fathers didn't specify that because they never imagined we'd gently caress up so badly that we'd need it spelled out? TheMadMilkman posted:Mike Lee is worthless, and almost certainly opposes the bill because it isn't cruel enough, but his "no" vote is still technically the correct vote. Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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Robot Hobo posted:Isn't this poo poo exactly why we have three separate branches of government, so that the Executive doesn't get to control who gets into the Legislative branch? Is this somehow not wildly illegal, in addition to being clearly unethical? No, Presidents endorse and stump for downticket candidates all the time.
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BiggerBoat posted:Jesus Christ. I'm six pages behind. So where's the page where you idiots finally shut the gently caress up about fast food and Chic Fil A so I can skip ahead? WTF is it about this god damned forum and every thread in it and loving junk food?  politics 
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https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/887116466444787712 Sadly, no it isn't, Nate.
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It might be because of McCain, but a few hours ago TPM had this on Johnson: https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/887093239123251201 So Johnson found out via the press about McConnell telling senators that the Medicaid cuts wouldn't ever actually go into effect, he doublechecked the story with his colleagues, found out it was true, and went "gently caress you McConnell" and withdrew his support 
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Glazier posted:No, Presidents endorse and stump for downticket candidates all the time.
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AegisP posted:It might be because of McCain, but a few hours ago TPM had this on Johnson: MAKE THE TWEET YOU FAT OLD MITCH
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eviltastic posted:https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/887116466444787712 Its actually a very clever move and smells like something worked out behind the scenes. At some point everyone knew the bill was dead, but they were scared of Trump attacking moderates. Collins and Paul grabbed the hall passes, but they didn't want Trump going off on Heller. Lee and Moran are pretty safe and probably can't be primaried, especially if they are going with the "not evil enough" public reason. If a flood of no's follow them, they give cover to the moderates in the herd while spreading Trump's ire evenly between Moran and Lee.
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RasperFat posted:It's amazing that 41% of Republicans and almost 1/3 of independents aren't in favor of protections for pre-existing conditions. The staggering ignorance and/or malice behind that belief is both hilarious and terrifying. 41% of Republicans would probably be ok putting poor people in camps and working them to death. You're looking at the tail end of regressive right in that polling.
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