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I'm honestly sick of them reviving things from Ralph McQuarrie's back catalogue of concept art that didn't make it the first time round. Star Wars has been doing it, Star Trek is doing it, guys get your own ideas.
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He eerily looks like Lin-Manuel Miranda in that picture.
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vermin posted:The four bridge points between the inner and outer saucer have got to be the busiest parts of the ship. It was a proof of concept by Turbo-Lift engineers to see how complicated they could make their shafts but it got approved by Admiral Archer during a drunk weekend. By limiting the available space, it's more likely that the crew will run into each other for the Meaningful and Awkward Moments every starship needs to function, thus negating the need for a Briefing Room, Cafeteria, or Brig.
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I bet somebody at CBS loves it because of the loving arrowhead. The new Trek productions just can't seem to help themselves from spraying that goddamn arrowhead everywhere. Like holy poo poo I'm actually a little surprised they haven't tried to do TNG-style collar rank pips, but have the pips be little arrowheads.
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It would be very funny if they decided to do that but just arranged them side by side rather than in chevrons.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I bet somebody at CBS loves it because of the loving arrowhead. The new Trek productions just can't seem to help themselves from spraying that goddamn arrowhead everywhere. Like holy poo poo I'm actually a little surprised they haven't tried to do TNG-style collar rank pips, but have the pips be little arrowheads. If you look at the badge on the uniforms they have the rank pips integrated into it. Not arrowheads though. Yet. (No one will ever see this in the US due to CBS All Access being a lovely, low bit rate app.)
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Series saved! Communicator looks good, and uses the grill design from WoK! https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/887039219838763008
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Please rate my ship design https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayARo_IGV7g&t=77s
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Gammatron 64 posted:edit: it's probably because non-nerds might know Levar from Reading Rainbow and Roots, while Brent Spiner was in, uh... Independence Day I guess? I would totally get Brent Spiner to sign my Sunday in the Park With George CD.
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McSpanky posted:Sweet the SPEED HOLES are back Are they just actively trying to get fans to hate everything about this show?
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 Showrunner Aaron Harberts on the change: “In different versions of ‘Trek,’ the Klingons have never been completely consistent,” he said. “We will introduce several different houses with different styles. Hopefully, fans will become more invested in the characters than worried about the redesign.” Like, OK, sure, but why create the distraction? What's the benefit?
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Astroman posted:Are they just actively trying to get fans to hate everything about this show? Apparently that's a strategy that works for Marvel Comics http://comicsalliance.com/angry-comic-book-fans-sales/
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Evek posted:If you look at the badge on the uniforms they have the rank pips integrated into it. Not arrowheads though. Yet.
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I actually liked the ship design but those holes are loving terrible.
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The Bloop posted:
Sorry, the Discovery may be a cludge, but the benefit of the redesign is that this dude is rad.
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What today's 18-54 demographic want is things their parents remember from the 1960s, but darker and grittier -- a TV exec from 2003.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Sorry, the Discovery may be a cludge, but the benefit of the redesign is that this dude is rad. Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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The Bloop posted:“In different versions of ‘Trek,’ the Klingons have never been completely consistent,” he said. “We will introduce several different houses with different styles. Hopefully, fans will become more invested in the characters than worried about the redesign.” I wonder why they lied about the Klingon redesign when it got leaked. The Fuzzy Hulk fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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Jul 18, 2017 01:54
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This is straight up out of Doctor Who.
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The Bloop posted:
I don't particularly care that makeup has to look like it's from the early 1980's, but it's a strange thing to totally revamp when the character to appear the most in Trek up to now is the Klingon character Worf with his 200+ episode appearances, and Voyager had a half Klingon as a main character.
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Honestly I feel like it'd work if it wasn't quite so radical but I also think the new Klingon design is pretty cool on it's own.
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shadok posted:This is straight up out of Doctor Who. Holy poo poo I think you just cracked the entire code on Discovery - Doctor Who as understood by American executives. "Everything needs to be really busy and visually distinct! Weird poo poo we don't explain! Action cuts! Just enough connections to the old stuff to keep the fans arguing!"
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I don't think I'd mind the starship so much if the nacelle struts were thinner, more like say an F-14's wings (or the Constitution refit), and angled a little higher so the nacelles are above the saucer rather than below. But what, the Klingons are spider themed now?
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It's not a bad species design. The makeup is good for Trek. (The big nails are dumb and cliché as mentioned and the armor is meh) But why make the Klingons so radically different? Why use an existing thing and change it rather than a wholly new thing? It's not a make or break on its own but it's such a distracting change and probably also indicative of other unnecessary and bad choices.
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It's not like his design is that far off spec:
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That Klingon looks like a lovely Warhammer figure. All black with some drybrushing.
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Sir Kodiak posted:It's not like his design is that far off spec: Yeah I'm pretty sure it's this. This whole project is basically Enterprise filtered through the lens of JJTrek as far as I can tell.
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Sir Kodiak posted:It's not like his design is that far off spec: Yeah, but that's not a really favorable comparison either. The change was just as pointless there and this one is even bigger, especially since they are far more central to the series than they were to the JJ movies Am I the only one that doesn't hate the ship profile? It's sort of ugly I guess, but some things are. The holes seem dumb right now but I'm waiting to see if there is a reasonable design rationale. (there probably won't be)
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Different Klingon houses having different styles could be cool. I'm guessing that it will start out with wishful thinking like that until the budget kicks in and that one style is the only one they can afford.
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Cojawfee posted:Different Klingon houses having different styles could be cool. I'm guessing that it will start out with wishful thinking like that until the budget kicks in and that one style is the only one they can afford. My deepest fear for the show is that these klingons are somehow kazon 2.0
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:That Klingon looks like a lovely Warhammer figure. All black with some drybrushing. The discovery klinger looks deep blue to me..
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The Bloop posted:Yeah, but that's not a really favorable comparison either. Eh, JJTrek has plenty of problems, but it was gorgeous.
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The Bloop posted:My deepest fear for the show is that these klingons are somehow kazon 2.0 I can't get past how loving dumb that coat(?) is. Why are there teeth on it? To reflect their sawblade heritage? How do they not get broken off every time they go through a door? How does he not get stuck to every chair he sits in? What does it add?!  The pointless busy-ness really sums it up. Even at their most ceremonial, Klingon outfits have always had a basic line and functionality: 
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Maybe different Klingon houses reacted to the Augment virus in different ways: some embraced it and became smoothskins; others fought it with weird drugs and various sketchy bullshit and got kinda hosed up (the JJ dudes, the Discovery dudes, and maybe even the Albino); a few played around with cosmetic surgery. But by the time of Search For Spock the empire finally found a cure or just forced everyone to start wearing retro 22nd century forehead fashions. The streets of the First City that we never see all have a forehead loaf shop on every corner. Loaf styles for every season!
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Don't remind of that virus. Probably the worst retcon to some out of Enterprise. It was better as a tongue in cheek joke in Deep Space 9.
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Evek posted:Don't remind of that virus. Probably the worst retcon to some out of Enterprise. It was better as a tongue in cheek joke in Deep Space 9. It wasn't a retcon. If anything it was repairing a retcon. That doesn't mean it was good - although I don't think it was all that bad, honestly. Unnecessary? Bigly.
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Evek posted:Don't remind of that virus. Probably the worst retcon to some out of Enterprise. It was better as a tongue in cheek joke in Deep Space 9. I still wish they had just switched Michael Dorn over to the TOS makeup when he was on the station and back to the regular makeup when he was on the Defiant and had no one comment on it at all.
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Trickjaw posted:The discovery klinger looks deep blue to me.. Not Klinger, it's Klingot. The copying from Doctor who continues, but it's good that we have more Bluish representation in media and entertainment. That's more important than canon.
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8one6 posted:I still wish they had just switched Michael Dorn over to the TOS makeup when he was on the station and back to the regular makeup when he was on the Defiant and had no one comment on it at all. That would have been great, but what they did was pretty great too. edit: might as well crosspost this nonsense here: 
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Am I the only one bothered by the fact that they seem to be making the more aggressive Klingons way darker than the "nicer" Klingons we've already seen?
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