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Robotech is going to be an odd one, given last I checked, it was actually three shows Frankensteined together. And Harmony Gold has a very bad reputation as seemingly doing nothing but copyright trolling for no appreciable gain but to make Battletech's rights issues even worse.Young Freud posted:That's a bit hard to swallow when you consider that one side is literally space Germans, down to names, titles, and pulling names and references from German mythology. If they could get away with speaking German instead of Japanese in the anime, they would have. Hard to say, wouldn't be the first time anime's thrown in a ton of loaded symbology and cultural references that don't actually mean anything significant, just to look cool and exotic.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Hard to say, wouldn't be the first time anime's thrown in a ton of loaded symbology and cultural references that don't actually mean anything significant, just to look cool and exotic. The loaded symbology and cultural references in LoGH are extremely significant.
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LotGH started out as a series of novels. Not a Japanese comic. Word books. Literature even. Edit: And it's slow paced, but there isn't a single episode of filler. Detective No. 27 fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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muscles like this! posted:They already have something big, more Game of Thrones. Fixed, or have they cancelled plans for spinoffs and prequels and whatnot?
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It's gonna take a series of lawsuits for any new Macross stuff to be released here. An entire live action movie isn't happening. e: I also can't figure what a successful blockbuster Macross movie would even look like. Do You Remember Love went at a breakneck speed at times but still felt like it was leaving things out. TTBF fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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Jul 18, 2017 08:43
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TTBF posted:It's gonna take a series of lawsuits for any new Macross stuff to be released here. An entire live action movie isn't happening. I was really confused when I watched that because I didn't realise it was a dramatically shortened version of a tv series.
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The original Super Dimension Fortress Macross is pretty much clear, licensing-wise, as long as Harmony Gold is on board. It's the Macross sequels that are in a tangled clusterfuck, Plus aside (and Manga being a shell of its former self means that will probably never see the light of day again, either). e: also, I think you could do it pretty easily as a trilogy, if we're trying to keep the movies relatively lean (two movies if we're going for 2:30-3hr epics, but I like shorter movies). First movie, the Supervision Army husk crashes on Earth and gets rebuilt as the Macross, prompting the Zentradi to invade, ID4-style. The climax is the Macross launching, getting in a big space battle, and as a last-ditch survival effort, using the Fold drive and landing at the edge of the solar system. End it on a cliffhanger there. Second movie, the Macross spends most of the movie returning to Earth, most of the romantic subplots start (including moving the Max/Miria plot up a bit), the Breetai-face-turn subplot starts. At the end, the Macross makes it to Earth and everyone celebrates... only to find out there's a giant Zentradi fleet directly on their rear end. Third movie is the humans preparing for, and fighting, the final battle; at a critical moment, Breetai and his own small armada come in to assist the humans and Bodolze gets killed in the battle, causing the Zentradi to surrender. It ends on a hopeful note, with the Earth in shambles but the cast mostly alive and happy (pineapple salad aside, because c'mon, you have to include that) and the friendly Zentradi working to help the remnants of humanity rebuild. Honestly you could even completely de-emphasize the giant robots and have it just be space-planes and badass alien fighters. Nobody would really complain that much, and it might play better with audiences. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Honestly you could even completely de-emphasize the giant robots and have it just be space-planes and badass alien fighters. Nobody would really complain that much, and it might play better with audiences. That seems like a 'Transformers shouldn't talk' level of bad idea. People would probably dismiss it as a Star Wars ripoff. Except Star Wars even has giant robots and nobody found those too weird.
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HBO should start adapting One Piece, it's pretty much just GoT with boats anyway. There's even a couple of dragons in it.
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I think the real reason the robotech project will fail again is because Robotech has always just been a huge vanity project for a real estate company. You can't buy macross stand-alone, you have to buy the robotech DVD to get the series.
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Red Bones posted:HBO should start adapting One Piece, it's pretty much just GoT with boats anyway. There's even a couple of dragons in it. I doubt they want to go from one series where the author was not close to wrapping things up yet to another one.
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Isn't One Piece designed to never have an ending? It's all about the friends you meet along the way With anime there can always be a new dangerous bad guy around the corner and they can somehow have it make sense in their worlds
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Fried Watermelon posted:Isn't One Piece designed to never have an ending? It's all about the friends you meet along the way I mean, from how I understand the current arc of New Dragon Ball to be about, that series HAS to end because they're facing the literal god of all creation
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Calaveron posted:I mean, from how I understand the current arc of New Dragon Ball to be about, that series HAS to end because they're facing the literal god of all creation "What? The Gods of Creation have brothers? These guys look strong, time to see if my training has paid off!" Episode 154: Power! New challengers from the Mirrorverse? Secret Platinum Technique!
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Fried Watermelon posted:Isn't One Piece designed to never have an ending? It's all about the friends you meet along the way From what I've heard, there is an actual ending. Unless it was fake Oda told a make a wish the ending to the show once.
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dirksteadfast posted:"What? The Gods of Creation have brothers? These guys look strong, time to see if my training has paid off!" Oh they already met his twin from Future Trunk's timeline and bought him back to the present. And then Goku opened his mouth about a tournament so all the universes minus a few have to fight, with the losers being erased from existence. They already had one universe full of furries get erased after they tried to fight Goku and Frieza and failed.
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I saw the trailer for the upcoming disaster movie Geostorm this weekend in a theater, and hoo boy that is some trash. I'm sure it also cost a lot. But it looks like some awful amalgamation between The Day After Tomorrow, The Core, and 2012.
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Rirse posted:Oh they already met his twin from Future Trunk's timeline and bought him back to the present. And then Goku opened his mouth about a tournament so all the universes minus a few have to fight, with the losers being erased from existence. They already had one universe full of furries get erased after they tried to fight Goku and Frieza and failed. The gently caress? Isn't that the plot to loving Bokurano?!
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Jul 18, 2017 16:41
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The best was that 4 episode OVA of Macross. It was mostly Human and low key just two badass fighter pilots and a love story.
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Inescapable Duck posted:That seems like a 'Transformers shouldn't talk' level of bad idea. People would probably dismiss it as a Star Wars ripoff. Except Star Wars even has giant robots and nobody found those too weird. I sort of feel like a fighter plane that can transform into Chappie is a bit of a harder sell than an AT-ST And also, what the guy above me said- the robots were never the point of Macross and you can carry over the most iconic parts of the visuals (ie insanely huge missile-shitstorms) totally fine without them.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I sort of feel like a fighter plane that can transform into Chappie is a bit of a harder sell than an AT-ST There's already a long-running and successful movie series about vehicles that transform into robots. It's not that hard a sell.
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Sir Kodiak posted:There's already a long-running and successful movie series about vehicles that transform into robots. It's not that hard a sell. They don't have a human inside and the whole hook is that they're weirdo ancient aliens that can pretend to be Earth things. The Valkyrie is kind of more "oh hey we made an F-16, but you can make it dude-shaped if you need to."
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:They don't have a human inside and the whole hook is that they're weirdo ancient aliens that can pretend to be Earth things. The Valkyrie is kind of more "oh hey we made an F-16, but you can make it dude-shaped if you need to." That already sounds more approachable than Transformers. It's basically the same idea, only remove the "weirdo ancient aliens" part. How is that more off-putting?
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:They don't have a human inside and the whole hook is that they're weirdo ancient aliens that can pretend to be Earth things. The Valkyrie is kind of more "oh hey we made an F-16, but you can make it dude-shaped if you need to." Nobody cares about the logic behind these concepts. People are comfortable with the visual of a fighter jet flying around shooting missiles and then turning into a robot dude that punches people. That this transformation is controlled by a little dude inside of it is just a plot detail. And, as Phylodox points out, to the extent that people care, having to explain that it's an alien life form instead of just a machine makes it harder to sell, not easier.
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I think the difference is that Transformers contrasts its story about intergalactic cybernetic life forms waging a millennia-spanning war for dominance against a relatable backdrop of contemporary Earth, giving the audience an entry point into the story, whereas Robotech and Macross and them ask the audience to accept an advanced future society that incorporates alien technology without as firm a point of reference, placing the burden more firmly on characters and their interactions. It's still probably not that difficult. A lot of sci-fi manages it. Star Wars, Fifth Element, Firefly, etc.
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Yeah, I'm not saying it's not doable, it would just take a defter hand than I think it'll likely get. Frankly I feel like the magic J-pop might be a bigger deal, but even that seems like they could get around it by just hiring some hot-poo poo American singer to play Not Minmay (or hire a Chinese pop singer to play the real deal and avoid making the internet mad).
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:and avoid making the internet mad When in the history of everything has this ever happened? How bad is Valerian going to get thrashed vs Dunkirk?
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Yeah, I'm not saying it's not doable, it would just take a defter hand than I think it'll likely get. Does robotech even have the J-pop stuff in it?
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GrandpaPants posted:When in the history of everything has this ever happened? I would assume whatever studio is behind this doesn't want a repeat of Ghost in the Shell, a movie that had anti-hype before it came out. IShallRiseAgain posted:Does robotech even have the J-pop stuff in it? Yep. Horribly dubbed, but it's there.
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The Disaster Artist teaser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qab3TMg42k
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I think it's weird that Franco is making that line delivery so flat. Wiseau's delivery is a lot of things, including baffling, but it ain't flat.
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It would sound completely insane and ridiculous if you hadn't seen The Room and realized that's how he actually sounds.
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Gatts posted:The best was that 4 episode OVA of Macross. It was mostly Human and low key just two badass fighter pilots and a love story. Top Gun is a Macross spinoff?
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Baron von Eevl posted:I think it's weird that Franco is making that line delivery so flat. Wiseau's delivery is a lot of things, including baffling, but it ain't flat. One thing I noticed is that it loses Wiseau's (baffling) facial expressions, particularly the way he looks when he says "Naaaht" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NOlzW8hx5A&t=72s
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kiimo posted:It would sound completely insane and ridiculous if you hadn't seen The Room and realized that's how he actually sounds. The point is that it's insane and ridiculous though, why tone it down?
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Phylodox posted:I think the difference is that Transformers contrasts its story about intergalactic cybernetic life forms waging a millennia-spanning war for dominance against a relatable backdrop of contemporary Earth, giving the audience an entry point into the story, whereas Robotech and Macross and them ask the audience to accept an advanced future society that incorporates alien technology without as firm a point of reference, placing the burden more firmly on characters and their interactions. It's still probably not that difficult. A lot of sci-fi manages it. Star Wars, Fifth Element, Firefly, etc. Everyone hates all the human poo poo in Transformers, though. Most of the shows end up completely leaving Earth with the human presence being token, phased out or just really annoying. Usually because they don't do anything remotely interesting with it. It's not a matter of what you film, it's how you film it. Give it some decent actors, good directing and a kickass soundtrack and I'm pretty sure Hollywood's audiences would eat up a space pilot turning his space plane into a space robot to hit space giants with his laser space sword, while a space jpop idol sings in the background. It's all in the execution and marketing. If anything, Pacific Rim suffered because they weren't willing to go anime enough. And all the interesting characters got killed off for the boring ones. got any sevens posted:Top Gun is a Macross spinoff? I think that was Macross Plus that's basically Top Gun with space robots, yes.
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got any sevens posted:Top Gun is a Macross spinoff? My God you're right. We neee Top Gun 2 to be Macross. Tom Cruise vs Mads Milkenson in transforming Jets in Space for the hand and love of...Jeremy Renner who is the man behind Sharon Apple portrayed by a lusty Tina Fey. Man read the description for Top Gun 2. Gatts fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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Gatts posted:My God you're right. I'm not really up on Macross but I recall they have legs. So they can do the requisite Tom Cruise running scenes and possibly play volleyball as well.
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Gatts posted:My God you're right. This exact setup but a remake of Robot Jox instead of a sequel to Top Gun.
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Just imagine an 1970s era jet fighter going over the net with phoenix missiles. Sure they're high maintenance and mostly retired (looking at you Kilmer) but once you get that Goku hair going and the sand and the sweat and the whine of a bike with the taillights all Akira style. We have a go picture.
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