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NikkolasKing posted:Oh, gotcha. They call it Vanish in the actual game but for the tutorial part they called it Clear. Weird. that's because the spell name is vanish, but the status name is actually listed as clear/invisible
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NikkolasKing posted:"Clear" will not make "Doom" work on bosses, though - that sort of douchebaggery doesn't fly here anymore. This would be referencing the Vanish - Doom trick. Vanish is a spell that makes characters immune to attacks but magic always hits - due to a bug the magic always hits part overrides status immunity, notably this includes the insta-death causing Doom spell working on many bosses.
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NikkolasKing posted:Oh, gotcha. They call it Vanish in the actual game but for the tutorial part they called it Clear. Weird.
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Jul 18, 2017 20:21
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The White Dragon posted:what the gently caress Well here's the party that went up against Kefka: level 10 Gau HP: 156 Level 11 Celes HP: 282 Level 13 Cyan HP: 382 Maybe Gau needs to focus more on Evade than Defense. Or maybe I was underleveled, I dunno.
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lol i kinda skimmed nikkolas king's original post about it and only just saw "that kind of douchebaggery" when you quoted it that's about the most pretentious, masturbatory, and insulting way i've ever heard someone describe "using a glitch in a video game"
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Those numbers are all insane. Cyan joins with like 600 HP in vanilla - there's that drat solo fight against the captain, I should know. e: to above poster, BNW dude writes like that all the time, it's awful
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Vanish status reduces MEvade to 0% and ALSO unflags any bits which provide protection for death/eject (or whatever XZone uses). Also in the original FF6, evade did nothing while MEvade affected both physical and magical attacks.
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Vargatron posted:Vanish status reduces MEvade to 0% and ALSO unflags any bits which provide protection for death/eject (or whatever XZone uses). but not break  as i learned last night when i was grinding ap on intangirs  e: also, this was probably changed in the BNW hack, but locke is actually incredibly useful when you fight kefka and the lancer guarding kefka, because he can steal really good items from them (ethers and elixirs from kefka, powerful (and expensive) armor from the lancer). also, while you can't run from either encounter, losing and getting reset to 1hp also resets both fights but not your inventory, so you can keep stealing advanced equipment from them as long as you have patience for it Fur20 fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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OG FF6 had about a hundred different ways to break it and a lot of them didn't even require a great deal of creativity, just your 11-year old self going "hm what if I gave this item that makes every single spell cost 1 MP to my party member who can cast Ultima a million times in a row.  "
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IcePhoenix posted:This is basically the only way to do it. There is an XP gain accessory I think though. How far into the game are you? Chapter 13, just met Snow and beat the Boss - I assume it's fairly early in the story, seeing as the chapters are quite short.
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My favourite 'I accidentally broke the game,' was giving Offering and Fixed Dice to Setzer
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NikkolasKing posted:So I have started up Final Fantasy VI: Brave New World. I know it has some script alterations. I was considering playing this other mod called EvilType but BNW sounds more interesting. It changes a good bit, but the story's pretty much the same. You can always look at a script later if you're really curious. quote:So I let Terra and Edgar wipe out most of Kefka's forces before taking my main trio of Celes, Gau and Cyan against Kefka himself but I am noticing that, in spite of Gau being interesting, he has no loving HP. True, he is at the lowest level of everyone in my party but he's only one level behind Celes yet she has 100 more HP. Gau's pathetic 150 HP is not really workable here from what I've seen. He was eating dirt for the last stretch of that Kefka fight. And this was my second attempt at Kefka because Kefka kept killing Gau in Round 1 and I kept futilely trying to revive him. I am grateful for the fact that my party being wiped only meant I got them all back with 1 HP and had to try again. The thought of running that whole gauntlet again was rather depressing so good game design here. Gau got rebalanced to be the most fragile to compensate for him being incredible fast and Rage still being powerful as hell (even though the really busted stuff like Charm got removed). It sucks early on, but there's ways to compensate for that. He's more of an evade tank anyway IIRC. The White Dragon posted:lol i kinda skimmed nikkolas king's original post about it and only just saw "that kind of douchebaggery" when you quoted it The writing's actually good in places, but it's also really bad in others. I think most of the terrible stuff's been removed by now (a majority of the over-the-top cursing, a particularly awkward scene at the end of the Floating Continent), though there's still a lot of weird meme humor and really old references. It's definitely a hack you should play for the gameplay changes, which are mostly good.
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BRAVE NEW WORLD is immensely bullshit and has terrible humor. they assume you will grind continually
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you'll have to forgive my skepticism, i've never met a numerical romhack that didn't belong in the trash. it's always stupid busywork poo poo that keeps you from their "grand design," like the smrpg hack that removes the level cap and adds a ton of cool spells, but replaces thunderbolt with a single-target shocker that's been re-tuned to have thunderbolt's damage formula, and also every mob in the entire game gives 1 expexquisite tea posted:Someone once enthusiastically posted screenshots of the dialogue changes in BNW and it was some of the most embarrassing poo poo I've ever read. 
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Someone once enthusiastically posted screenshots of the dialogue changes in BNW and it was some of the most embarrassing poo poo I've ever read.
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corn in the bible posted:BRAVE NEW WORLD is immensely bullshit and has terrible humor. they assume you will grind continually Isn't grinding what FF is all about? I'm just about to go and grind against some snowy monsters for an hour or so so everyone can be level 30 and not just Vaan. Just like an MMO, I find the loop of clearing an area and picking up all the items soothing. It's very possible I'll be playing FFXII for way, way too long. I'll admit my brain might be a bit broke.
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I remember someone did an LP of it and the guy came in the thread calling himself a chocobrony or something
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atholbrose posted:Isn't grinding what FF is all about? no, grinding in ff is about becoming overpowered so you can steamroll roadblock bosses without using the intended victory strategy. grinding in ff romhacks is about barely keeping up with an exponentially-increasing enemy stat curve
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Help Im Alive posted:I remember someone did an LP of it and the guy came in the thread calling himself a chocobrony or something That was my LP, and he randomly volunteered that he looked at "clop". That was a fun day.
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brutal self own. is it in the archives already or is the thread still in the active forums?
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Sakurazuka posted:I assume 'clear' (lol) = vanish. There was a bug in the original game where if you could get vanish to stick on a boss Doom would have 100% chance of killing them. Doom or x-zone. But if you used x-zone on doomgaze I think, it screwed you out of the esper.
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atholbrose posted:Isn't grinding what FF is all about? I'm just about to go and grind against some snowy monsters for an hour or so so everyone can be level 30 and not just Vaan. Why would you grind in a series where every game is easy without grinding?
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Mega64 posted:That was my LP, and he randomly volunteered that he looked at "clop". Those were better days, before FF15...before the Empire...
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The White Dragon posted:brutal self own. is it in the archives already or is the thread still in the active forums? This was nearly four years ago, so long-archived. If you're really curious, here's where the shitshow started after another wonderfully dumb derail.
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the ff12 soundtrack is so loving good here I thought I'd get tired of rabanastre music and I did for a quick second, then I came back hours later and its good again objectively the best version of clash on the big bridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4M5ivckBPQ it's a shame most people probably won't fight gilgamesh but the encounter is so good and he's voiced by john dimaggio and 
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Szurumbur posted:Chapter 13, just met Snow and beat the Boss - I assume it's fairly early in the story, seeing as the chapters are quite short. I'm actually not sure how far into the game that is but I think it's before the halfway point? The first actual good grinding spot is basically the last dungeon though. There's a couple more in the postgame. Really though the way experience scales you should be able to catch up anyone you want to use quickly enough from your bench. And if you're having trouble just remember: use your loving items
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Man I can't wait until I can dual class so I can start slinging Black Magic and stuff around
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Calaveron posted:Man I can't wait until I can dual class so I can start slinging Black Magic and stuff around Black magic is so drat good in the Zodiac version. Black Mage's element-boosting staves just break the middle of the game in half. You'll be wiping whole groups of enemies in one cast of Thundara with the Storm Staff, for example.
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Is there any equivalent to "gently caress" in Japanese. I've heard "kuso" ranges from "drat" to "poo poo" in terms of severity based on context.
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Mega64 posted:This was nearly four years ago, so long-archived. If you're really curious, here's where the shitshow started after another wonderfully dumb derail. speaking of dumb derails holy poo poo I didn't know that guy in question was BTB BTB is a reasonably prolific morrowind modder who made a bunch of semi-popular "balance" mods that make all good items worth nothing, all spells do less damage, removes the ability to make "constant effect" enchanted items, and removes/moves a lot of easy to get good items you know, the whole fun in playing morrowind all I had to read was "BTB made brave new world" and I knew exactly what it would be lmao
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The weird thing is I think people say it's one of the better FFVI mods so idk why everyone is so bad at romhacks
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:it's a shame most people probably won't fight gilgamesh but the encounter is so good and he's voiced by john dimaggio and for some reason, i found the gilgamesh encounter to be... tedious. it was a battle of attrition of cycling out my main party as they died and reviving them with my b-team, but he died, and it was thoroughly uninteresting. he had about twice as many hp as he needed to.
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Help Im Alive posted:The weird thing is I think people say it's one of the better FFVI mods so idk why everyone is so bad at romhacks its because ff6 doesnt need a HARD BALANCE HACK so only idiots make them
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The White Dragon posted:for some reason, i found the gilgamesh encounter to be... tedious. it was a battle of attrition of cycling out my main party as they died and reviving them with my b-team, but he died, and it was thoroughly uninteresting. he had about twice as many hp as he needed to. First encounter or second? Were you using dispel?
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Meridian posted:First encounter or second? Were you using dispel? whichever one gets you the, what was it, ultimate 2h sword? tournesol or something? also i strongly doubt i was using dispel because i just killed everything with brave/haste/berserk
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Is there a good Quickening guide? I'd like to know which piece of each board is the best to ignore/cut off? Is it dependent on the character/job combo or what?
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corn in the bible posted:its because ff6 doesnt need a HARD BALANCE HACK so only idiots make them Quick how can I turn this game that I could beat even when I was a stupid 10-year old and loved into a pointless grindfest with Big Adult swear words.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Is there a good Quickening guide? I'd like to know which piece of each board is the best to ignore/cut off? Is it dependent on the character/job combo or what? just pick the ones that dont cut anything off
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corn in the bible posted:just pick the ones that dont cut anything off Unless you're doing Shikari, then just let Ninja Swords 1 be cut off, I think
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