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I liked Dark Souls 1 mostly because it repeatedly made me think, "This is too difficult, there's no way the developer expects new players to be able to beat this, I must have missed a key or magic item or something" and then eventually getting sort of gud. Notable DS1 moments: - Trying to cross the bridge and a huge dragon loving kills you with merciless fire breath, drat - Welcome to Capra Demon - Unlocking cool shortcuts in 3d that allow travel through a very well planned-out world - Thinking that the graveyard is the first area of the game that you're expected to go through after Firelink, and getting destroyed by skeletons (but also finding a 2H sword right off the bat) - Bonewheels
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Asimov posted:I liked Dark Souls 1 mostly because it repeatedly made me think, "This is too difficult, there's no way the developer expects new players to be able to beat this, I must have missed a key or magic item or something" and then eventually getting sort of gud. Then you man up, kick the poo poo out of those skeletons, and the sense of accomplishment is like cocaine. KingSlime posted:this is video game crack to me (not surprisingly I am a big fan of dungeon crawlers where the stakes are high, like Etrian Odyssey) Have you played STALKER with Misery mod, KingSlime? It had a similar impact on me. (later I tried Misery 2 and found it exagerated things, but Misery 1 is near drat perfect) JBP posted:E: that long stretch also sounds like the birth of turtle mode souls gaming which is boring as gently caress and has likely ended up costing players their opportunity to yell "test your might!" at the tv while whirling a massive hammer around without a shirt on. 
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Jul 18, 2017 23:59
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I liked Dark Souls 1 better than 2 or 3 from a game world point of view because it's a very centralized adventure. Dark Souls 2 has you globetrotting all over the continent and 3's only slightly better in that way, but 1 takes place in one specific area of the world where a whole lot of stuff has gone wrong. I like that most of the stuff you fight in the early game is just the local fauna standing in your way. Not everything is a super important character with history- the Taurus Demon is just a demon that muscled its way in and nobody else is powerful enough to stop it. The series lost me a bit in 2 when it started introducing tons of faraway places that you hear about but never see, or travel across half the world to get to.
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Jul 19, 2017 00:01
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True, DS2 did have a nice variety of areas and I like it more than most people seem to, but DS1 was self-contained and knew what it was about. It's pretty standard for sequels to want to break the mold so I completely understand and can cut them slack for everything except soul memory.
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Jul 19, 2017 00:03
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Yeah, DS1 location is super tight. It gives Lordran a sense of place that's difficult to match. Only Yharnam got close IMO, but as it opens up later it dilutes the feeling. While Lordran makes you feast every inch of it, from up to bottom, inside out.
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Jul 19, 2017 00:11
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One thing they are still good at imo is the feeling of "oh poo poo how the hell am I gonna beat this" as the boss rushes right at you. They first got me with the Taurus Demon hopping over the wall and then making a beeline for your sorry rear end, but I felt it again with the Last Giant in 2 and the Nameless King (and his big dragon friend) in this one.
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Jul 19, 2017 00:20
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I've probably just played it too long or am a weird person because I don't remember ever feeling a sense of dread/fear exploring in ds1 one of the things I like most conceptually about it is that it's willing to get weird with bosses. most of the weird ones don't really work out though. I realized a bit ago that crystal sage is just pinwheel but with more HP and an unstaggerable teleport that automatically goes off after a certain amount of damage so they don't just roll over and die
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Jul 19, 2017 00:39
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Speaking of the Crystal Sage just rolling over and dying, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvGeOGEwfkQ guy didn't stand a goddamn chance on my last playthrough. He didn't even make it to phase 2.
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lessavini posted:Have you played STALKER with Misery mod, KingSlime? It had a similar impact on me. (later I tried Misery 2 and found it exagerated things, but Misery 1 is near drat perfect) I have not! But this kind of endorsement has definitely got me wanting to check it out!
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Jul 19, 2017 01:39
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CJacobs posted:Speaking of the Crystal Sage just rolling over and dying, He actually has an AI bug where he never enters phase 2 sometimes. I'm not sure what causes it.
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in regards to boss chat, yeah that's also a massive source of addiction for me Running headfirst into a boss that seems impossible until you put in some loving work and learn My friend saw my first run through the ruin sentinels, watching how I kept dying over and over again, getting better each time until I smashed their poo poo in (with flasks to spare). I looked over to my friend, beaming with pride and expecting praise. He very nonchalantly told me that yeah he doesn't like his video games to feel like work. Fair enough I guess. I personally think it's great as no work = no reward, but it has to be balanced right otherwise it will just be awful and unfun (i also feel like some late game areas in DS3 are Pretty loving UnFun).
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Jul 19, 2017 01:44
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Ruin Sentinels were probably the biggest brick wall in all of Souls, I think. It's crazy how well I memorized that moveset. Capra kind of approaches it but I won't lie, I chickened out and used one of the two exploits available for the fight my first time through.
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fool_of_sound posted:He actually has an AI bug where he never enters phase 2 sometimes. I'm not sure what causes it. The bug is "I killed him before he could do the teleport that brings him to phase 2". You can see him trying to do it just before I land the final hit.
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I learned the same thing from the Champion's Wolf I did against Gascoigne, which is that hiding behind things waiting for cheap shots is as tedious and useless as it deserves to be and you need to fight your opponent in the open like a professional. However I did circle the pillars to keep the wolf away while I dealt with the pesky Gravetender. I rank that fight 2nd out of the series' 3 Big Wolf fights, that's including the wolf from DS2 that is actually a rat. Maybe it's technically more sound than the Sif fight but that one's very beautiful and sad once you realize you're killing a loyal dog.
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Also I was all pumped for turboslaying the Pontiff with my beefed up uchigatana and I put on the silver covetous ring for the extra souls, unwittingly making myself just obese enough that I couldn't roll away from his attacks and he killed me immediately.
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Jul 19, 2017 02:52
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snoremac posted:However I did circle the pillars to keep the wolf away while I dealt with the pesky Gravetender. Yeah in DS3 some mobs just feel like they're supposed to be impossible to juggle, or the margin of error is stupid small. Whereas in DS2 it was mob management galore
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Jul 19, 2017 03:18
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Can anyone recommend some good weapons for a pure pyromancer build? A friend of mine started playing and so I made an alt to do co-op with him while he gets slaughtered.
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Jul 19, 2017 05:55
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dark lothric knight sword, that dlc greatsword, witch locks
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snoremac posted:Also I was all pumped for turboslaying the Pontiff with my beefed up uchigatana and I put on the silver covetous ring for the extra souls, unwittingly making myself just obese enough that I couldn't roll away from his attacks and he killed me immediately. but especially rings. nothing more annoying than needing to change around armor after swapping rings to not go over breakpoints
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Jul 19, 2017 06:02
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I think it's hilarious that my gigantic beef man puts on his ring of strength and suddenly starts rolling around like a turtle with back problems.
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hey man you try rolling like a dude with <70% equip load constantly i've tried it, it's not fun
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fool_of_sound posted:He actually has an AI bug where he never enters phase 2 sometimes. I'm not sure what causes it. Soulmass. If he has any out he can't teleport, but he's so fat you can just kinda rotate around him and the far one can't fire.
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Jul 19, 2017 06:56
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What's the reason for Yorshka not letting me join her covenant? She asks why I'm there but my only option is "Do Nothing".
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Jul 19, 2017 07:16
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snoremac posted:What's the reason for Yorshka not letting me join her covenant? She asks why I'm there but my only option is "Do Nothing". You need to have learned a certain emote from Sirris.
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f#a# posted:hey man you try rolling like a dude with <70% equip load constantly
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snoremac posted:What's the reason for Yorshka not letting me join her covenant? She asks why I'm there but my only option is "Do Nothing". Go to the bridge near the entrance of Irithyll, Sirris will leave a summon sign. Help her kill some dude, then back at firelink she'll put in a word for you so that you can join Darkmoon.
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Tarezax posted:You need to have learned a certain emote from Sirris. Sirris has promised to kill me for joining Rosaria's covenant so I can kiss that goodbye. New question: In the Corvian Settlement there's an item on a large rock in the water area with all the monsters. You obviously have to drop there from the nearby rooftop, but how do you get up there? I've looked all over the place and can't work it out.
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fool_of_sound posted:He actually has an AI bug where he never enters phase 2 sometimes. I'm not sure what causes it. It's the crystal soul masses. For whatever reason, he can't disappear while they're still up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1xYYnOk1D4&t=2428s You can see it in action in this year's sgdq.
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It's a fairly roundabout route, I think you have to cross over a bridge from the rooftops of the shacks after going up the hill a ways. You'll know you're headed for the right place when you see basically a shack on top of a cliff.
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snoremac posted:Sirris has promised to kill me for joining Rosaria's covenant so I can kiss that goodbye. From Corvian Settlement, hang a left outside the door to the village and you'll need to make a couple (obvious) jumps. Here's a video, spoils the item you get though. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qd5cDuBFBHg
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f#a# posted:From Corvian Settlement, hang a left outside the door to the village and you'll need to make a couple (obvious) jumps. Here's a video, spoils the item you get though. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qd5cDuBFBHg Thanks. Oh Friede is a 3-part fight?! I am demoralized. I got the slab, Ariandel started talking, I thought I'd done it...
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snoremac posted:Thanks. My favorite dick move in the whole series. They give you just enough time to celebrate your victory... and then she stands back up. I've made a fun game out of looking for playthroughs of the DLC so that I can hear the bitter resignation in peoples' voices when they realize it's not over. edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjj0DdxsMRI&t=12180s Including myself! (3:23:00) CJacobs fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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And Tyler Too! posted:Can anyone recommend some good weapons for a pure pyromancer build? A friend of mine started playing and so I made an alt to do co-op with him while he gets slaughtered. Later get Onyx Blade for it's amazing black flame, and Witch's Lock Whip and you're done.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KmU6cWOIqc This game is real stupid sometimes edit: For those that can't tell what happened, the boss' arms pushed me back into its head hitbox even though I rolled at the right time to get away from the attack, then it followed up with that charge attack that has no wind up and just killed me instantly. Fond memories of this happening during the Kalameet fight in DS1. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 11:27 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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Jul 19, 2017 11:25
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Boss limbs should not have collision tbh for that reason alone
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Kalameet was especially annoying imo because his head doesn't have collision during attacks but the neck does, so you can roll forward through the attack properly and then hit the neck which stops your roll and you take damage 
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Are there any good write-ups on DS3's story? I was blown away by how 'The Paleblood Hunt' showed how much depth and subtle storytelling is hiding in plain sight in Bloodborne, so something like that would be great. Or smaller stuff. Just not videos.
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snoremac posted:Are there any good write-ups on DS3's story? I was blown away by how 'The Paleblood Hunt' showed how much depth and subtle storytelling is hiding in plain sight in Bloodborne, so something like that would be great. Or smaller stuff. Just not videos. Nothing as elaborate as Paleblood Hunt that I'm aware of. This reddit post collates a lot of useful information about various backstory topics though.
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skasion posted:Nothing as elaborate as Paleblood Hunt that I'm aware of. This reddit post collates a lot of useful information about various backstory topics though. Yeah this is the kind of stuff I'm looking for, thanks.
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gotta pump END and STR if you wanna roll Dark Souls is a simulator
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