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Onmi posted:So, Ant-Man was the traitor because Hydra got Cassie. Turns out Ulysses vision of the Hulk was what appears to be ULTIMATE Banner (He speaks with the ultimate universe font) beating up Robo-avengers. Between this and Spider-Men 2 I have no loving idea what Marvel is doing with the 616/Ultimate merger.
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This issue also features my favorite moment ever. Hydra-Cap confirms that AI Tony is an AI and a hologram. And then attempts to decapitate him with his shield. It's presented in a super dramatic way that would probably be super dramatic if it were Tony Stark, not an AI Hologram. I just... I'm so happy that they know they wanted Tony to be alive for Secret Empire, he's so blatantly been written as needing to be here for it, and they couldn't keep internally consistent about it for long enough to get from CWII to Secret Empire.
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Jul 19, 2017 22:11
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Box wine posted:Ultimates was fun and awesome as always, Maker gonna make. Definitely. America travelling to Cyclops' PUNCHFORCE dimension was a delight in a box of delights.
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Jul 19, 2017 22:12
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Also I'm 99% sure they're gearing up to turn Doom back into Doom from Ironman. How sure? Well they just had Riri crown herself the queen of Latveria. So... it's a fair guess that doom's going to do something.
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Sentinel Red posted:Definitely. America travelling to Cyclops' PUNCHFORCE dimension was a delight in a box of delights. Door kicker Galactus, bobblehead Ego, Maker just making, the not surprising but very fun end. Only downside is there's no solicitations past next issue. Will be sad if it's fully canceled and not just on a short hiatus for a few months.
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Onmi posted:This issue also features my favorite moment ever. Hydra-Cap confirms that AI Tony is an AI and a hologram. And then attempts to decapitate him with his shield. It's presented in a super dramatic way that would probably be super dramatic if it were Tony Stark, not an AI Hologram. I just... I'm so happy that they know they wanted Tony to be alive for Secret Empire, he's so blatantly been written as needing to be here for it, and they couldn't keep internally consistent about it for long enough to get from CWII to Secret Empire. I suppose whether that explanation works for you or not depends on whether you believe that comic book artificial intelligences A) can be fully-rounded people and B) that they can hold the full breadths of an actual human being's identity.
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Jul 19, 2017 22:52
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Onmi posted:Also I'm 99% sure they're gearing up to turn Doom back into Doom from Ironman. How sure? Well they just had Riri crown herself the queen of Latveria. So... it's a fair guess that doom's going to do something. it's fine if he isn't iron man so long as he's not a bad guy again. infamous iron man has been pretty good and it'd be lame if they threw it away
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Jul 19, 2017 22:57
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They're gonna throw it away. It sucks but that's the way it is. Hickman Doom best Doom. Waid baddie Doom worst type of Doom.
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Jul 19, 2017 23:53
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BrianWilly posted:To be totally fair, they make a great big point of saying that the AI is imbued with Tony's actual consciousness and so it "is" Tony in any way that counts. Oh that's not what I'm laughing at. He tried to decapitate a hologram. Something that had no mass.
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Jul 20, 2017 00:43
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BrianWilly posted:To be totally fair, they make a great big point of saying that the AI is imbued with Tony's actual consciousness and so it "is" Tony in any way that counts. I'm willing to accept both of those premises. I'd also be willing to accept that hologram Tony is lying about being an AI at all and was just a super-science way for his actual mind to interact with the outside world. Either way, decapitation isn't much of a threat when your head is just projected light.
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Jul 20, 2017 00:51
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Ohh I see. Yeah that was pretty dumb 
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Jul 20, 2017 01:46
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Astribulus posted:I'm willing to accept both of those premises. I'd also be willing to accept that hologram Tony is lying about being an AI at all and was just a super-science way for his actual mind to interact with the outside world. Either way, decapitation isn't much of a threat when your head is just projected light. AI Tony is absolutely his digital soul or something.
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Jul 20, 2017 01:55
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X-Men: Gold's Secret Empire tie-in turns out to be hilariously perfunctory, ending with a literal summons to Congress, which I guess got over the whole Hydra thing in record time and wants to get back to bothering mutants. I guess editorial mandate made them bother to tie it in in the first place, because it's really clear the writers weren't interested at all.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:41
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Secret Empire has to be the most up its own butt comic of 2017. Stop trying to ask who the real bad guys are as Captain America enacts his final solution and the Hulk beats innocent civilians into paste. Ultimates 2 is just amazing though. Punch dimension and all.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:46
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TheHan posted:Secret Empire has to be the most up its own butt comic of 2017. Did make for a couple of good asides in Spectacular Spider-Man though
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Jul 20, 2017 02:58
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howe_sam posted:Did make for a couple of good asides in Spectacular Spider-Man though Goodness gracious, did it ever. 
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Jul 20, 2017 03:17
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Onmi posted:Oh that's not what I'm laughing at. It only makes the sequence a bit less stupid, but Cap used some tech that made him tangible before the fight.
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Jul 20, 2017 03:20
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Manatee Cannon posted:it's fine if he isn't iron man so long as he's not a bad guy again. infamous iron man has been pretty good and it'd be lame if they threw it away If Doom goes back to being a villain then, along with the end of Unstoppable Wasp, my interest in Marvel will be fading fast. I might only stick around to see what Riri does next.
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Jul 20, 2017 03:44
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America Chavez essentially duping Cyclops's mutation with her power was a pretty cool bit.
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Jul 20, 2017 04:15
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Chinston Wurchill posted:It only makes the sequence a bit less stupid, but Cap used some tech that made him tangible before the fight. Although with that said even a tangible hologram presumably wouldn't have internal architecture or organs so I'm not sure what removing his head would achieve even if it was solid.
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Jul 20, 2017 04:35
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even if they made the hologram solid somehow, it's not an actual body. decapitating it wouldn't do anything because it's just there so people have something to interact withGatts posted:They're gonna throw it away. It sucks but that's the way it is. Hickman Doom best Doom. Waid baddie Doom worst type of Doom. I mean yea, doom will probably be a villain again someday, but having his return to villainy happen in the same book where he tries to go against it would be especially lame and totally ruin an otherwise good story
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Jul 20, 2017 04:48
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Decapitating your rival's hologram just feels good. It's a virtual way to rub it in. Like killing a another player in an online game and your character pretending to teabag their character's dead body.
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Jul 20, 2017 05:30
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I assumed he was going to stab him in the arc reactor.
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Jul 20, 2017 07:03
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Lobok posted:Decapitating your rival's hologram just feels good. It's a virtual way to rub it in. Like killing a another player in an online game and your character pretending to teabag their character's dead body. The Avengers walk in on Cap teabagging an empty suit of Iron Man armor Open Marriage Night posted:I assumed he was going to stab him in the arc reactor. This is not only the most logical course of action, but is exactly what movie Steve does to disable movie Tony in Civil War! Such a loving dumb comic.
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Jul 20, 2017 08:23
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age of ultron also had a better solution to an ai escaping, even if it was basically magic. at least it paid lip service to the idea that destroying a physical body wasn't good enough
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I liked Secret Empire 6 because I got to see Ben Grimm be heroic and I will never not love that.
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Jul 20, 2017 13:17
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Autism Sneaks posted:The Avengers walk in on Cap teabagging an empty suit of Iron Man armor The comic never shows him try and go for the head. He just raises the shield above his head. Lenil Yu draws a great Thing. As a comic reader, it's easy to forget that Ben Grimm is still a massive rock creature.
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Just finished SE 6. It's mediocre to me. All the controversy aside, it has potential in spots. But overall it's just really underwhelming. I did enjoy the Thing's appearance though. That was awesome. And I continue to love Lenil Yu's work.
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I feel like Aaron is having too much fun writing over the top dialog for War Thor. It's way too ridiculously grimdark to be serious. I hope Spider-Man's blazer is the same one he wore when he was teaching the Special Class.
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twistedmentat posted:I feel like Aaron is having too much fun writing over the top dialog for War Thor. It's way too ridiculously grimdark to be serious. Grimdark should not be something ever associated with Volstagg, even ironically. 
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Yvonmukluk posted:Grimdark should not be something ever associated with Volstagg, even ironically. Volstagg just has not been treated well in recent years. 
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Donny Cates and Geoff Shaw, who respectively wrote and drew the criminally under-read God Country for Image are the new creative team on Thanos in Marvel Legacy. So that's going to immediately be one of the more unique and best looking books at Marvel. Pretty excited about that. I do believe that is Thanos ascending a throne made on top of the head of Galactus. I am so in for this. EDIT: Cates has a signed a Marvel exclusive contract and will be writing Doctor Strange as well. X-O fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Ed Piskor (Hip Hop Family Tree) will being doing his thing with X-Men history in a miniseries. A decade of lore each issue. http://www.cbr.com/ed-piskor-xmen-grand-design/ 
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Also in things I didn't know I wanted but yes please: Noah Hawley is making a Doctor Doom movie.
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it's hard to get excited when you've seen the fantastic 4 movies, but if nothing else it can't possibly be worse
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Manatee Cannon posted:it's hard to get excited when you've seen the fantastic 4 movies, but if nothing else it can't possibly be worse It's hard not to get excited when it's Noah Hawley who apparently I guess is Fox's Golden Child after Fargo and Legion.
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X-O posted:Donny Cates and Geoff Shaw, who respectively wrote and drew the criminally under-read God Country for Image are the new creative team on Thanos in Marvel Legacy. So that's going to immediately be one of the more unique and best looking books at Marvel. Pretty excited about that. Teenage Fansub posted:Ed Piskor (Hip Hop Family Tree) will being doing his thing with X-Men history in a miniseries. A decade of lore each issue. 
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X-O posted:Also in things I didn't know I wanted but yes please: Noah Hawley is making a Doctor Doom movie. Too bad they won't make a deal with Marvel for Strange.
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Jul 21, 2017 02:36
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God Country people taking over for Thanos is significantly better than putting Ed Brisson or Cullen Bunn on it.
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Has anyone blown their lid over Richards arm being spotted yet?
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