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precision posted:No, I think it's kind of like they think he's sold out a little bit. Oh dear. Do they think the same of Pegg considering he writes Star Trek movies? Steve2911 posted:I've not heard a single person say that. Me either, the gang of people I went to see it with enjoyed it all thoroughly.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Oh dear. Do they think the same of Pegg considering he writes Star Trek movies? I've heard people say this one. And people who think he sold out because he had a tiny cameo in The Force Awakens after hating the prequels. I think he did a voice in one of the cartoons too?
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All this just makes me think of the interview where Wright says that car chases are basically impossible in London and how any heist movie set there would involve a getaway on Vespas.
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Spergatory posted:All this just makes me think of the interview where Wright says that car chases are basically impossible in London and how any heist movie set there would involve a getaway on Vespas. We've been having a bit of a problem with those recently, as a matter of fact. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/map-reveals-shocking-number-of-central-london-moped-muggings-in-just-one-week-a3532741.html https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/09/police-in-london-consider-tougher-tactics-against-moped-gangs And yes, the raids here in London do usually involve mopeds to get away. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/27/thieves-mopeds-rolex-west-london-robbery
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Jul 19, 2017 13:26
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I got robbed once by a guy on a bike. He came into our bank, cleaned out our vault, and peddled away. Works surprisingly well in heavy traffic areas like malls.
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Steve2911 posted:I've not heard a single person say that. i said it in this very thread about 10 pages back
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precision posted:No, I think it's kind of like they think he's sold out a little bit. I bet they don't like Snatch either
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Krispy Kareem posted:I got robbed once by a guy on a bike. He came into our bank, cleaned out our vault, and peddled away. Sounds like a real Premium Rush
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Hey brits, news flash, selling out is good and you should be glad your countryman is making bank off his talents instead of slumming it directing midsomer murders or whatever the gently caress
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I thought it was cool that it was set in Atlanta, because despite there being loads of movies shot in Atlanta they are almost never set there, and the British actress's accent was pretty good Wasn't enough traffic to be realistic though
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Jul 19, 2017 19:48
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I didn't figure out it was Atlanta until a bit into the movie then had a good laugh about it. Robbing a bank on foot would be more realistic anywhere in Atlanta proper because it has got the worst traffic of anywhere I have ever been except maybe San Diego, but at least San Diego has decent public transportation to make up for it.
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precision posted:I didn't figure out it was Atlanta until a bit into the movie then had a good laugh about it. Robbing a bank on foot would be more realistic anywhere in Atlanta proper because it has got the worst traffic of anywhere I have ever been except maybe San Diego, but at least San Diego has decent public transportation to make up for it. The branch I was robbed in was Dunwoody, which I think is where the 2nd robbery in Baby Driver is supposed to take place. So yeah, using a car and getting away is tough. Our most robbed branch was built about 500 ft and one right turn from an interstate entrance ramp. That branch got robbed all the time.
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Yeah, it's not exactly realistic Atlanta but it at least features legitimate place names and actual local business, which hopefully will see a boost from this. Apparently Wright also wanted to feature a couple of ATL hip hop tracks in the movie, but the tracks were deemed unclearable because they were not commercially released and used samples that hadn't been cleared by the original artists. He even offered to personally go to the original artists and ask them for permission, but Sony's legal department just said nuh-uh.
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Did anyone walk out of this inexplicably flat/depressed? I felt super flat after I watch it and I met some friends for a beer last night after they saw it and they were struck down by the same malaise. It's weird since it's not a sad movie or anything, but we all had this strange reaction that made us all very flat after seeing it.
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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:I thought it was cool that it was set in Atlanta, because despite there being loads of movies shot in Atlanta they are almost never set there, and the British actress's accent was pretty good I watched most of the movie for a third time today and while I'm certainly no expert on accents, I always feel like the first scene in the diner ends with the two of them both slipping into their british accents after Baby sings the little bit of the Trex song. He obviously sings the song in a british accent (because T. Rex is british af) and then never quite gets back to Southern. That's the only part I notice it slip, though.
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I thought Ansel did a great job in that regard. There are a lot of similarities between British and southern accents, probably due to Appalachia being settled by lots of brits
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JBP posted:Did anyone walk out of this inexplicably flat/depressed? I felt super flat after I watch it and I met some friends for a beer last night after they saw it and they were struck down by the same malaise. It's weird since it's not a sad movie or anything, but we all had this strange reaction that made us all very flat after seeing it. I did, and was able to put my finger on it a little better: it's the Avatar problem, where I was walking out depressed that I don't live in this movie. Seriously, it would be fuckin' bad rear end to have the universe sync itself to whatever music I was listening to.
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What creeps me out is the underlying issues with Baby and his parents. The film says that a) your actions have consequences and b) you can't claim innocence if you're involved in bad poo poo, even if you're not personally pulling the trigger or whatever. Baby pretends that his actions don't tip the scales in any way, until it's too late and he is forced to deal with the consequences. Jon Bernthal and Jamie Foxx are right: he's not innocent of that other poo poo just because he closes his eyes and ears to the world. Foster dad hammers this home with the two conversations about who Baby is hurting: not just others, but himself. But all of this is juxtaposed with several scenes of Baby being a helpless witness to his father's domestic violence. We relive enough scenes to get the idea that Baby carries guilt for not protecting his mother (even if we as the outside observer know that none of this is his fault). And so part of that tragedy is the foundation of Baby's growth: finally stepping up to violence (and to his crime dads) to protect Debora (who is basically his mom). But this is some wish fulfillment poo poo that is still unhealthy for Baby's psyche. He was never guilty for his dad's actions. But he is culpable for his crime dads' actions. Baby might've grown but how he did so is troubling. The prison might as well be a stand-in for arrested development because his fantasy ending is still running away with his dead mom.
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For me, it's less creepy because for the majority of Baby's life, his mom has been nothing but an extremely rose-colored idea. I mean, poo poo. A little research shows that the kid who played Young Baby was six when the movie was filmed. Do you know how much I knew about my mom at age six? I'm not even entirely sure I knew her real name. For Baby, his mom is a series of distant images that make him feel nice, but little more than that. And none of those images are of her as a waitress. When Baby remembers his mom, he remembers her everywhere but the diner. His primary and most comforting image of her is as a singer. Even when Debora tries to invoke the image of her as a waitress by asking if she worked at the diner, Baby looks a little uncomfortable and kind of brushes past it and says she was a singer. Because that's how he prefers to remember her. All that helps bring down the oedipal vibes to relatively normal levels. Yes, "normal" levels; I hate to break it to you, but it's actually ridiculously common, even among non-hosed-up people, to marry someone who strongly resembles your opposite-sex parent. This is true even with animals. Biology is hosed up, man. It's times like these I'm slightly thankful I'm gay as hell and don't have to worry about this. :iamafag:
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DC Murderverse posted:I watched most of the movie for a third time today and while I'm certainly no expert on accents, I always feel like the first scene in the diner ends with the two of them both slipping into their british accents after Baby sings the little bit of the Trex song. He obviously sings the song in a british accent (because T. Rex is british af) and then never quite gets back to Southern. That's the only part I notice it slip, though. Ansel Elgort isn't British?
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I'm less creeped out by the Oedipal nature of their relationship and more by the unexplored connection between Baby's domestic violence upbringing and his guilty bystander feeling as an adult.
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Coffee And Pie posted:Ansel Elgort isn't British? Whaaaaaaa Holy gently caress I think I just assumed he was British because of his goofy name
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Spergatory posted:For me, it's less creepy because for the majority of Baby's life, his mom has been nothing but an extremely rose-colored idea. I mean, poo poo. A little research shows that the kid who played Young Baby was six when the movie was filmed. Do you know how much I knew about my mom at age six? I'm not even entirely sure I knew her real name. For Baby, his mom is a series of distant images that make him feel nice, but little more than that. And none of those images are of her as a waitress. When Baby remembers his mom, he remembers her everywhere but the diner. His primary and most comforting image of her is as a singer. Even when Debora tries to invoke the image of her as a waitress by asking if she worked at the diner, Baby looks a little uncomfortable and kind of brushes past it and says she was a singer. Because that's how he prefers to remember her. So are you into dudes that look like your dad?
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JBP posted:Did anyone walk out of this inexplicably flat/depressed? I felt super flat after I watch it and I met some friends for a beer last night after they saw it and they were struck down by the same malaise. It's weird since it's not a sad movie or anything, but we all had this strange reaction that made us all very flat after seeing it. I think it's because even though it's got action, music, and a happy? ending, it's still a Fargo-style "snowball of events lead to violence no one in the movie wanted to do except Jaime Foxx" tragedy.
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got any sevens posted:So are you into dudes that look like your dad? Nope! My dad is short and stocky like me, whereas I'm into tall dudes. Like Ansel Elgort.  Though now that you mention it, it is a well-known (and slightly depressing  ) joke in the gay community that white gays tend to go for guys who look exactly like them and would probably gently caress their clones if given the opportunity. I think I read a story a few years back where two dudes started dating only to realize they were long-lost brothers or something. 
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I'm pansexual and have zero interest in skinny brown skinned butch dudes (what I am). I prefer skinny pale femme dudes. My wife looks nothing like my mother. gently caress you, science! 
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Ansel Elgort: Very Cute Lily James: VERY Cute Jon Hamm: Hot Dad
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In the flashback to the accident Baby's dad was yelling at the mom and Baby, right?
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Spergatory posted:Those were already names. 'Baby' is a new one. Edgar Wright has accidentally expanded the Acceptable Name Threshold. It won't even necessarily be people who loved this movie; it will be people who have vaguely heard of it and thought 'oh, what a good name for a baby, specifically this baby, MY baby!' Baby's real name should have been Adult
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Power of Pecota posted:Baby's real name should have been Adult Apparently when Edgar Wright was trying to get Elgort to be more assertive in a scene, he would shout, "Man Driver!"
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I named my child b-a-b-i-e. 
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i am the bird posted:I named my child b-a-b-i-e. Babby
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For me, the scenes with deaf foster dad could have been extended into a full movie. Peanut butter all the way to the edges. That assisted living home scene made me tear up.
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Vegetable posted:For me, the scenes with deaf foster dad could have been extended into a full movie. Peanut butter all the way to the edges. That assisted living home scene made me tear up. Yeah, their dynamic was really sweet. When he serves him lunch with the little towel on his arm  Also for any newfound Elgort fans, I'd strongly recommend The Fault In Our Stars. It's kinda sadness porn but Ansel genuinely shines in it.
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CJ Jones is a boss and apparently the first black deaf actor ever to be cast in a major motion picture. Which is, you know, pretty cool. I don't know why Edgar Wright wanted Baby to be raised by an old deaf black man, but I'm glad he did, because CJ Jones is a boss. Also helps balance out Jamie Foxx's Scary Black Man and add a much-needed splash of color to a cast that is painfully white for a movie set in Atlanta (which is 54% black people, for those who didn't know). Kind of a weird thing to be impressed by, but the marketing for this movie has been really on-point and I think a large part of why it's doing so well. This right here is pretty much a perfect summation of the movie's premise and it takes about 15 seconds. https://twitter.com/edgarwright/status/888448197332418560
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precision posted:I didn't figure out it was Atlanta until a bit into the movie then had a good laugh about it. Robbing a bank on foot would be more realistic anywhere in Atlanta proper because it has got the worst traffic of anywhere I have ever been except maybe San Diego, but at least San Diego has decent public transportation to make up for it. This post is a lie. San diego traffic moves very slowly. Boston traffic sits there and taubts you to go more than .75 mph.
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Spergatory posted:CJ Jones is a boss and apparently the first black deaf actor ever to be cast in a major motion picture. Which is, you know, pretty cool. I don't know why Edgar Wright wanted Baby to be raised by an old deaf black man, but I'm glad he did, because CJ Jones is a boss. Also helps balance out Jamie Foxx's Scary Black Man and add a much-needed splash of color to a cast that is painfully white for a movie set in Atlanta (which is 54% black people, for those who didn't know). I think the deaf foster parent thing was a nice way to show that kind of gap in Baby's life. Music is so important to him, but until Debora comes along, he doesn't REALLY have anyone to talk about it with. Somebody pointed out that when he talks about "Trex" instead of T-Rex, it's not just because he's a little bit of a dork, it's because he's literally never had an opportunity to speak out loud with another person about the music he likes so much.
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I think it was so they could work in that beautiful scene at the end where Jon Hamm has taken Baby's hearing but Baby knows he can still rest his hand on the speaker and his mother's voice goes from garbled to crystal clear
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I think it was so they could work in that beautiful scene at the end where Jon Hamm has taken Baby's hearing but Baby knows he can still rest his hand on the speaker and his mother's voice goes from garbled to crystal clear I know Movies Are Not Real Life but what Hamm did almost certainly would have healed, people have guns go off right next to their ears all the time and it doesn't permanently deafen them; my friends in the armed forces and my redneck dad's side of the family can certainly attest to that
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precision posted:I know Movies Are Not Real Life but what Hamm did almost certainly would have healed, people have guns go off right next to their ears all the time and it doesn't permanently deafen them; my friends in the armed forces and my redneck dad's side of the family can certainly attest to that I mean, we see him getting treated for it in the ending.
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