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Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

I was a huge fan of the Saw movies when they were coming out and I saw almost all of them in theaters.

I watched like 30 seconds of that Jigsaw trailer and turned it off because I couldn’t possibly be less interested in that movie.

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The D in Detroit
Oct 13, 2012
I've only seen the first three Sawz but I dig that trailer.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I was totally uninterested and watched the trailer basically out of morbid curiosity, but that trailer is super dope and the Spierig Bros. directing has my hopes slightly up.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Maybe instead of being offbrand Getter Robo + Mazinger + tiny bits of Evangelion, this one'll be offbrand G Gundam.

Off brand G-Gundam film is too good for this cursed world.

Metis of the Chat Thread
Aug 1, 2014


Taintrunner posted:

I went looking for Rinko Kikuchi's imdb to see if she was coming back for Uprising, and I discovered this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3263614/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_10

Kumiko, the Treasure Hunter: A jaded Japanese woman discovers a hidden copy of Fargo (1996) on VHS, believing it to be a treasure map indicating the location of a large case of money.

It's an excellent movie. Great depiction of depression.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Barudak posted:

Off brand G-Gundam film is too good for this cursed world.

I would have thought offbrand Every Go Nagai Mecha Series would be too good for this cursed world, and yet we got the first PR.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
If it were really a Go Nagai mecha series there'd be tit-ballistics.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Cythereal posted:

And that one thing he really, really wanted to do was a jaeger/kaiju hybrid.
So an Eva? Or the Mechagodzilla made from Old Godzilla's Bones?

Rad.

CARL MARK FORCE IV
Sep 2, 2007

I took a walk. And threw up in an English garden.

FilthyImp posted:

Or the Mechagodzilla made from Old Godzilla's Bones?


Gypsy Danger faces off against a beast who lulls its enemies into a sense of complacency with Lacanian theory

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

GrandpaPants posted:

Thinking about Pac Rim 2, there's like, no way that the various (remaining) nations of the world didn't use Jaeger technology to dick each other over once the alien threat was eliminated, right? Do we know what the premise of the movie actually is besides "Giant robots fight"?

Was kind of a theme with Pacific Rim that the Jaegers are very specifically built to fight Kaiju, and to do so on their own terms with precision, and are too specialised and expensive to be efficient weapons of war between humans. You can kill Kaiju with conventional weapons, or at least nukes, but between the collateral damage and poison body fluids, you end up causing more damage than you can deal with. Nobody builds giant death robots when they have nukes. (Civilization V aside)

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


David Ayer on Bright:

quote:

“It’s about a really hosed up LA. I get to explore some really cool social issues,” Ayer said when he was introducing the film. “I was able to do my poo poo here. I was able to tell a loving story."

“This isn’t a PG-13 bullshit studio movie.”

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Schwarzwald posted:

If it were really a Go Nagai mecha series there'd be tit-ballistics.

That and gratuitous gore are basically the only Nagai mecha things it's missing. Almost every plot element is taken from either some incarnation of Getter or some incarnation of Mazinger, with a couple bits of Evangelion and Gurren Lagann peppered in here and there to throw off the scent (the latter of which stole from Getter a shitload, itself).

e: given DeKnight's involvement, we'll probably get the latter of those, I don't think he's made a single thing that wasn't absurdly violent and he's said that the first season of Daredevil was him actively trying to tone down the gore (which tells me he has a very loving skewed sense of "not gory").

WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Jul 21, 2017

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Honestly I've been hype as gently caress for Pacific Rim 2 ever since DeKnight was announced as director, Spartacus is legitimately one of the greatest TV shows I've ever seen and Daredevil S1 was rad too

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006


The trailer got released and...literally Shadowrun without cybernetics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EZCBSsBxko

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice
Valerian looks amazing but it's going to be featured on How Did This Get Made some day. I'd be surprised if anyone could say what they even think it's going on at any point of it. Also harmed by a totally passive score that robs scenes of any energy. Almost feels like one of those Auralnauts "no score" audio edits. Until at one point I think Elfman's MIB score comes in at the finale. Also feels like being a slave to an adaptation robbed Besson of the freedom to put in some cleverness and energy in the editing like he seems to.

Bizarre to watch. Great 3d.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Ape Agitator posted:

Valerian looks amazing but it's going to be featured on How Did This Get Made some day. I'd be surprised if anyone could say what they even think it's going on at any point of it. Also harmed by a totally passive score that robs scenes of any energy. Almost feels like one of those Auralnauts "no score" audio edits. Until at one point I think Elfman's MIB score comes in at the finale. Also feels like being a slave to an adaptation robbed Besson of the freedom to put in some cleverness and energy in the editing like he seems to.

Bizarre to watch. Great 3d.

Oof. Considering how amazing the scores for Leon and The Fifth Element are, this is very disappointing.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?


Tell us how you really feel David :allears:

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

My thoughts on Valerian from the comic thread:

Chairman Capone posted:

Just saw Valerian. The theater was almost empty - maybe a dozen or so total besides me, and I think at least four of them walked out about the 2/3 mark. My views (keeping in mind I have not read the comics):

The pros:
  • Great visuals and designs for the aliens, ships, environments (at least most of the time) and some interesting sci-fi concepts. Main reason I wanted to see the movie in the first place.
  • Ethan Hawke and Rihanna put in good, if small, performances. (Honestly, I thought Rihanna was better than either of the main leads.)
  • Really liked the opening credits montage.
  • The villains were a racist military officer who uses human access to the galactic free market and claims of cultural superiority to justify covering up genocide, which seems tailor made to appeal to the CineD crowd.


The cons:
  • The story was trite and the dialogue was bland.
  • Way, way too long. There was no reason this was almost 2.5 hours long. None at all.
  • At multiple points throughout the movie, major plot points are given out in huge chunks of expository dialogue. Rutger Hauer is wasted so he can give a 30 second monologue during the opening credits to help set up the premise.
  • Dane DeHaan and Cara Delevigne are really wooden actors and have no chemistry with each other, even though 90% of their interactions are supposed to be endearing flirtations. Almost none of the other actors in here acquitted themselves much, either.
  • Related to the above, Valerian was a completely unsympathetic and annoying/borderline gross character. He was probably intended to come across as a charming Han Solo rogue type but was portrayed more like a sleazy PUA in space. This may have to do with my above point about Dane DeHaan.
  • This felt very derivative. I know people are going to say that Mass Effect and Star Wars and Blade Runner stole stuff from the original comics or whatever, but even beyond the visual references (and whether that's true or not, as someone who hasn't read the comics but has seen those movies/games, it's really hard not to see them being pretty blatant in some of the designs) there are shots clearly borrowing from iconic Star Wars scenes and other shots clearly inspired by sci-fi FPS games, Cara Delevigne even has an "I have a bad feeling about this," and to be honest, there were multiple times when I felt like the movie was recreating parts of The Phantom Menace, of all movies.
  • Again, perhaps related to the above, this felt less like a movie and more like watching a Let's Play of Mass Effect or EVE or something like that.


The weird:
  • There's a space hooker who imitates Jessica Rabbit.


Ultimately, while I did really love a lot of the visuals in the movie, I can't really recommend it.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
Why wouldn't a space hooker imitate Jessica Rabbit?

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Do you mean she's like an animated element on screen?

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
She sings "Why Don't You Do Right?"

SOLD!!!!

ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002

Is it possible to seal David Ayer into a 55-gallon drum and sink him to the bottom of the ocean

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
David Ayer is great.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
I love that man.

ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002
So that's a no, then

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
It's probably possible but why would you? Guy's made a grand total of two bad movies, both of which are known to have been shat up by the studio, and the stuff he's made without studio fuckery has been fantastic.

Dinosaurs!
May 22, 2003

Was the second half of End of Watch hosed up by a studio? I'd be more interested in what he's got cooking if that happened.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW7onOfmho

This cast owns.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Dinosaurs! posted:

Was the second half of End of Watch hosed up by a studio? I'd be more interested in what he's got cooking if that happened.

I was talking about Sabotage and Suicide Squad, the former of which got cut almost literally in half by the studio (the original cut was nearly 3 hours and the final cut is around 90 minutes), turning it from a cerebral crime drama to a HURR HURR SHOOTMANS movie, and the latter of which is pretty much legend at this point.

I actually really liked End of Watch start to finish, personally.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I love that man.

I'm starting to think all of his hard-stumping for Suicide Squad was actually a calculated self-sabotage. Like, guy was just straight up telling a room full of fragile nerds, "gently caress MCU movies," and then was all on Twitter, like, "All right, all right, my bad," and then the movie still did gangbusters and completely rejuvenated WB/DC's faith in their franchise, and now he's just straight up throwing shade at them, too.

Like, who is this beautiful man? It's like if Troy Duffy could actually write/direct but also didn't blacklist himself somehow.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!


Could've been just Iko Uwais vs. Tony Jaa and that cast would still own. Glad to see Tony Jaa back doing movies.

Whatever happened to that Iko Uwais/Yayan Ruhian sequel to Skyline?

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


LORD OF BOOTY posted:

I was talking about Sabotage and Suicide Squad, the former of which got cut almost literally in half by the studio (the original cut was nearly 3 hours and the final cut is around 90 minutes), turning it from a cerebral crime drama to a HURR HURR SHOOTMANS movie, and the latter of which is pretty much legend at this point.

Interesting, I hadn't heard that. Sabotage is still good, but I'd be fascinated to see a three hour version.

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Sabotage ain't bad, it's just easy to be tripped up by the anachronism of what is at heart an 80s action film being made in 2014, with a contemporary style and plot.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
Yeah, I still really dug Sabotage - it's easily one of the more interesting action films from that year, the problem is that it's just completely shown up by Fury in the same year.

Harsh Times and Street Kings are both good, too, but the former is probably my second favorate Ayers joint after Fury.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Protecting billionares from gangs when it's the other way around irl, lol

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
I get where they're coming from but I kind've feel that calling a movie Triple Threat is a bit misleading if it's not a musical with dance numbers. :(

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

K. Waste posted:

I'm starting to think all of his hard-stumping for Suicide Squad was actually a calculated self-sabotage. Like, guy was just straight up telling a room full of fragile nerds, "gently caress MCU movies," and then was all on Twitter, like, "All right, all right, my bad," and then the movie still did gangbusters and completely rejuvenated WB/DC's faith in their franchise, and now he's just straight up throwing shade at them, too.

Like, who is this beautiful man? It's like if Troy Duffy could actually write/direct but also didn't blacklist himself somehow.

All of his hard-selling does make him seem boorish, after all, he did drop out of Scarface because to hear him tell it he was freaking out the normies. But I find it impossible to get mad at him for being lame and a little retrograde about his passions, an ironist would be much more conspicuous and performative about religion, "representation", working class characters, etc. Ayer just does it but doesn't hype you up about it.

The D in Detroit
Oct 13, 2012

This is my jam.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


K. Waste posted:

Yeah, I still really dug Sabotage - it's easily one of the more interesting action films from that year, the problem is that it's just completely shown up by Fury in the same year.

Harsh Times and Street Kings are both good, too, but the former is probably my second favorate Ayers joint after Fury.

Yeah, Fury is brilliant.

I have to thank this conversation for reminding me I've never seen Street Kings, and should remedy that.

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Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Man of Tai Chi had this epic tease of Tiger Chen fighting Iko Uwais, looks like this is going to give us the full monty.

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