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Dreddout posted:My main question is how did Burma resist the tyranny of the British road system. Maps of the british empire tend to go for the maximalist view most of the time (the old map on wikipedia even included the post ww2 british zone in germany). That said Egypt was weird and was variously considered independent, a british protectorate and a turkish province all at once. Also usually maps of the period at least grudgingly count Northern Yemen and the Hejaz as the Ottoman Empire even when they don't acknowledge sovereignty over the Najd. Agnosticnixie fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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fishmech posted:This is a map on how left and right hand drive has changed since about the 1850s: This map is deceiving in the caseof Brazil: Originally there was no countrywide regulation about which side of the road you had to drive on. This meant that each state could choose on it's own, and multiple states had LHT while others had RHT. This only changed in 1928 when a presidential decree finally centralized traffic laws. So while it's technically correct to say we always had RHT, it was really only in some parts of the country. Frionnel fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Furthermore, Venice should be destroyed.
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Guavanaut posted:Not sure about Thailand. Nor why Burma/Myanmar went the other way. Blut posted:Why isn't Burma part of the glorious right hand drive ex-Empire? http://www.minordiversion.com/2012/03/the-unique-world-of-burmese-driving/ quote:Some of the world’s drivers are used to sitting on the left side of the car and driving on the right side of the road. The UK and most former British colonies are used to sitting on the right side and driving on the left side of the road. Switching from one to the other takes some adjustment but, as Sandeep can attest from his Indian driving experience, it’s not that hard. Myanmar is trying to slowly phase out right-hand drive cars, but ~90% of the cars on the road are still right-hand drive: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/Myanmar-mulls-left-hand-drive-car-law/articleshow/49031848.cms http://www.mmtimes.com/index.php/business/17161-right-hand-drives-to-remain-on-the-roads.html As are a lot of the buses, which leads to people having to get on a bus in the middle of the street.  Ne Win was completely nuts, by the way. quote:[Ne Win] also took drastic steps regarding the currency: In 1963, he issued a decree that 50 and 100 kyat notes would cease to be legal tender, alleging that they were subject to hoarding by black-marketeers and were also used to finance the various insurgencies. Though limited compensation was offered, this wiped out people's savings overnight. At least one insurgency, that of the ethnic Kayan, was triggered by this act. Saladin Rising fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Post-Soviet space had a lot of imported cars with the wrong-side steering as well.
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On the note of cars doing potentially dangerous things, global maximum speed limits as of about 2015 or so: As labeled, countries and subnational entities (when allowed to set speed limits independently, and data available) are colored by rounded off km/hr and mph bands
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steinrokkan posted:Even if you convince all countries to adopt God's own right side traffic, it won't change the non-Euclidean tesseract-based driving conventions of Andromeda. This is why we need space colonialism fyi I will not rest until 5 dimention reptilians drive on the right side of the multiverse
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Byzantine posted:Furthermore, Venice should be destroyed. fishmech posted:On the note of cars doing potentially dangerous things, global maximum speed limits as of about 2015 or so: Burma proves once again to be the sequence breaker
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fishmech posted:On the note of cars doing potentially dangerous things, global maximum speed limits as of about 2015 or so: I‘m Western Sahara.
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i'm "no marked highways or roads that lead out of the territory" nunavut
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fishmech posted:On the note of cars doing potentially dangerous things, global maximum speed limits as of about 2015 or so: I was in Tibet last year and any buses carrying tourists can only go 40km/h. Locals can go double this. There's even a policeman stationed in the bus to ensure speeding doesn't occur.
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Platystemon posted:I‘m Western Sahara. Yeah, the Moroccan authorities have speed limits set up on the major roads, so data for once! Tree Goat posted:i'm "no marked highways or roads that lead out of the territory" nunavut True but not really what's up here for why their speed limits are low. It's because their road system is almost all Gravel, Ice, or plain Dirt. And paved roads are usually in the middle of the towns and thus slow marked. they do have one road that leaves the territory : theres a winter only road passable in the average year that goes to the northwest territories and thence to the rest of the North American network of roads. Catch is, it's hard to get to it from the rest of Nunavut because itself lacks a reliable road connection. Incidentally all the winter ice roads? Speed limit 60 kmhr for clear conditions no load on the trucks. Loaded trucks are usually 30 or slower Tree Goat posted:i'm "no marked highways or roads that lead out of the territory" nunavut
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fishmech posted:True but not really what's up here for why their speed limits are low. It's because their road system is almost all Gravel, Ice, or plain Dirt. And paved roads are usually in the middle of the towns and thus slow marked. The mines that the winter road supplied have closed, so I don't think the winter road has been built for a few years and probably won't be built again unless more mines open. There was also a handwavey plan to build a $1.2 billion road from northern Manitoba to Rankin Inlet (pop 2500) in southern Nunavut but it was scrapped for obvious reasons.
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fishmech posted:On the note of cars doing potentially dangerous things, global maximum speed limits as of about 2015 or so: 90 km/h for Latvia. We used 2 have like 2 highway stretches that allowed 110 km/h, but I think that was shut down. Some roads have summer speed limit restriction lifted (to 100 km/h), but it's for a few months only cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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fishmech posted:On the note of cars doing potentially dangerous things, global maximum speed limits as of about 2015 or so: South Africa has maximum speed limits of 120kph, not 100kph.
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fishmech posted:On the note of cars doing potentially dangerous things, global maximum speed limits as of about 2015 or so: I like that Poland, synonymous with bad roads, has the highest speed limit.
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steinrokkan posted:I like that Poland, synonymous with bad roads, has the highest speed limit. New roads in Poland are built to very high standards, and de jure requirements to what roads can be classified as "motorway", the necessary class for having a speed limit of 140km/h, are very strict.
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catfry posted:New roads in Poland are built to very high standards, and de jure requirements to what roads can be classified as "motorway", the necessary class for having a speed limit of 140km/h, are very strict. Alternatively it's the Texas of Europe, just without all the rich bits.
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Private Speech posted:Alternatively it's the Texas of Europe, just without all the rich bits. Bavaria is the Texas of Europe though.
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From 1684 to 1821 Texas was the Texas of Europe.
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Orange Devil posted:Bavaria is the Texas of Europe though. Well fine it's the Arkansas then, a place wishing it was Texas. They don't have 140 limits there though so it doesn't work as well.
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Private Speech posted:Alternatively it's the Texas of Europe, just without all the rich bits. Poles are absolutely among the worst, most fanatical car worshippers in Europe, if that's what you mean. The explosion in private ownership and driven km/year/capita has put enormous pressure on the roads. In the same period, european structural funds has enabled polish governments to expand the road network greatly in scope and quality. These trends reinforce each other, in that the increasing car ownership and road quality makes the car the more preferred mode of transportation, increasing the usage and thus congestion, calling for even more road investment. Meanwhile collective transport struggle with lack of investment. even though EU-funds do not discriminate between road and rail, Polish governments constantly choose roads.
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Well, Polish rail does have a checkered past.
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That Burma stuff is nuts. If 90%+ of their cars are still right hand drive they should really just change back.
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There's only one official* 85 mph road in Texas I'm aware of and it's the one around Austin built to allow truckers doing the Mexico-Canada jaunt to bypass the city center and thereby supposedly reduce traffic. I don't think many people use it though and I've only driven on it once when I detoured back from Dallas. *The highways between the major Texas cities are posted 65-75, but are practically 80-90+.
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Saladin Rising posted:Ne Win was completely nuts, by the way.
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Didn't know where else to post this: Who can't forget about the bloody Celto-Uralic vs Indo-European wars
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System Metternich posted:Didn't know where else to post this: TIL Koreans are Indo-Europeans.
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System Metternich posted:Didn't know where else to post this: The forgotten hyperwar.
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System Metternich posted:Didn't know where else to post this: This isn't the first time I've heard weird people claim that Celtic languages are somehow not related to the other languages of Europe and every single time it's been from an American who fetishizes their "Irish ancestry" that they, without exception, know absolutely nothing about. Of course, that's a minority of the plastic paddies I know, the largest part of them are unaware that the Irish language even exists, much less that other Celtic languages exist.
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Charles Get-Out posted:There's only one official* 85 mph road in Texas I'm aware of and it's the one around Austin built to allow truckers doing the Mexico-Canada jaunt to bypass the city center and thereby supposedly reduce traffic. The map isn't clear on whether it's the highest actual or statutory limit being labeled. http://onlinemanuals.txdot.gov/txdotmanuals/szn/szn.pdf quote:Higher Maximum Speed Limit
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Ensign Expendable posted:The forgotten hyperwar. Indos took my language
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cinci zoo sniper posted:TIL Koreans are Indo-Europeans. I mean they did control the territory of the Roman empire according to that one map
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System Metternich posted:Didn't know where else to post this: This is silly but kind of an honest mistake given how far back the Celtic languages branched off from the rest of the romance languages. Also apparently there's a ton of Welsh speakers in Patagonia? Weird.
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Charles Get-Out posted:*The highways between the major Texas cities are posted 65-75, but are practically 80-90+. If we're going by actual speeds, then these maps are almost meaningless. Mexican drivers seem to go about the same speed as speeding Americans even though the posted limits are often absurdly low. I can't tell you how many times I was going ~100 kmh in a 60 or 80 kmh zone and was still the slowest car on the road.
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steinrokkan posted:I like that Poland, synonymous with bad roads, has the highest speed limit. That's Germany.
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Duckbag posted:If we're going by actual speeds, then these maps are almost meaningless. Mexican drivers seem to go about the same speed as speeding Americans even though the posted limits are often absurdly low. I can't tell you how many times I was going ~100 kmh in a 60 or 80 kmh zone and was still the slowest car on the road. Well, yeah, it's way harder to try to figure something like "highest normal speed on the highest grade roads this country has" or something. But if you were going to try to make a map of such a thing, most countries would probably end up around 75-85 MPH provided they have some good 3 lanes a side limited access roads and don't spatter speed cameras and the like all over the place. It's kind of a sweet spot for what modern vehicles will do without feeling too unsafe for a normal driver, and without requiring you to have the accelerator slammed to the floor.
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Moist von Lipwig posted:the Celtic languages branched off from the rest of the romance languages. Ummm...
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Peanut President posted:That's Germany. “Undefined” isn’t a limit.
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