|
DC Murderverse posted:poo poo, wrong former Dr Who, I meant Eccleston. Tennant was good but I wasn't meaning to talk about the TV shows. Fair enough. Though I'd also say Obadiah Stane in Iron Man 1 was a very memorable villain, and Robert Redford in Cap 2. teagone posted:DCEU films have had the one up visually on every MCU film. Ragnarok looks like the first one to finally match the DCEU visual standard, but while colorful, it still looks like some shots suffer that flat lighting with little contrast the MCU movies are known for. Eh. Man of Steel was visually great, but I wouldn't hand out any prizes to BvS or Wonder Woman.
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:08
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 09:53 |
|
|
I liked The Dark World, but I'm not gonna push anyone to watch it unless they want to. Thor, though, is the biz.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:09
|
|
|
Cythereal posted:Fair enough. Though I'd also say Obadiah Stane in Iron Man 1 was a very memorable villain, and Robert Redford in Cap 2. I don't count Iron Man because it was made under very different circumstances, and Redford was good because they didn't coat him in makeup and CGI. The absolute worst villains in the MCU have all been ones where they completely cover up the actors with makeup and accents and cgi. Spader was an exception to the rule, but Guardians and Thor 2 are the worst of it, with Doctor Strange coming in right behind them.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:11
|
|
|
DC Murderverse posted:this. this right here is my poo poo. Dafoe, Roth, Keaton, Rourke, Kingsley, Church, Giamatti and Molina were all good. McKellan is always great. Then again, that's a lot of Sony movies so maybe I see your point.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:11
|
|
|
Mr President posted:Captain Marvel takes place in the 90s, she fights the skrulls and super skrull Wait, I thought Fox had the Skrulls because of the Fantastic Four rights (which is why they hauled the Chitauri out from the Ultimate comics for Avengers)?
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:11
|
|
|
DC Murderverse posted:I don't count Iron Man because it was made under very different circumstances, and Redford was good because they didn't coat him in makeup and CGI. So they don't count because that wouldn't support your point, gotcha. Goalposts duly moved.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:11
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0oDm4J3YOg I love it
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:12
|
|
|
I feel like a loving idiot for thinking Thor 3 looks really, really good. Like, I've been burned twice and I'm definitely going back.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:13
|
|
|
BiggerBoat posted:Dafoe, Roth, Keaton, Rourke, Kingsley, Church, Giamatti and Molina were all good. McKellan is always great. Then again, that's a lot of Sony movies so maybe I see your point. Yeah, Spider-Man movies don't count because with the exception of the first ASM the villains in all of them are top loving notch. Also Kingsley doesn't really count since he's not the real villain of the piece. Timby posted:Wait, I thought Fox had the Skrulls because of the Fantastic Four rights (which is why they hauled the Chitauri out from the Ultimate comics for Avengers)? Super Skrull is a separate thing from The Skrulls when it comes to rights.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:13
|
|
|
Fart City posted:Kind of reminds me of James Gunn and GOTG. Neither Super nor Slither were particularly visually rich... but he basically blew the doors off of the Marvel House Style with that first Guardians entry. There seems to be something about the indie, fringe guys getting a chance at bat that makes them bring their Triple-A game. Here's the thing, though... No he didn't. Gunn's movies looked exactly what you'd expect a fringe MCU film to look like. Even CP could make it look better with a few minutes of photoshop. Waititi has actually pushed the aesthetic absurdism of the production design further than Gunn, but also moving forward compositionally. Like, look at these shots: It's not just that the aesthetics of the set design are 'Kirby-esque,' or whatever. It's that despite how oblong and unnaturally decadent the environments are, Waititi makes them look uncomfortably naturalistic. The curvature of the gilded wall complements that of the witch lady's horns, the intrusive red/blue oblong shape complements Thor and Hulk's rigid physique. Like, the characters are even joking about which one of them is water and which one is fire, and the background is composed entirely of red and blue. That's both a good complement to what's occurring at the level of characterization, as well as a good joke at the expense of the characters. They really are just cartoon hunks slotted like tetris pieces into the environment. Neither of them is fire or water - they're both just red and blue shapes.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:13
|
|
|
LesterGroans posted:I feel like a loving idiot for thinking Thor 3 looks really, really good. Like, I've been burned twice and I'm definitely going back. Thor 3 has Hulk. Having him in the film alone puts it way above the first two.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:15
|
|
|
Disney, please don't be a dick and just release the infinity war trailer online.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:16
|
|
|
Is that song something made for the trailer? Or is it an actual track? It's a banger
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:21
|
|
|
LesterGroans posted:I feel like a loving idiot for thinking Thor 3 looks really, really good. Like, I've been burned twice and I'm definitely going back.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:21
|
|
|
drat. Marvel blowing DC out of the water again.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:23
|
|
|
K. Waste posted:Here's the thing, though... No he didn't. Gunn's movies looked exactly what you'd expect a fringe MCU film to look like. Even CP could make it look better with a few minutes of photoshop. I get what you're saying, and I definitely appreciate the examples you provided to reinforce your read, but c'mon. The only reason there is such a term as "a fringe MCU film" is because of Gunn. The most aesthetically experimental MCU movie before GOTG was the original Thor, and that's just because Branagh had the stones to go all-in on his Kirby hand. Without GOTG shaking up what the "house style" could be, we might not have gotten a Dr. Strange. And I definitely doubt that without their success we would have gotten something as visually unique and out there as Ragnarok. We're not in disagreement that Waititi is operating on a different level here. Hell, like I originally said, I was all-in when he was announced as the director. Where this newfound visual muscle came from, you're guess is as good as mine, but I'm happy to see it happen.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:23
|
|
|
achillesforever6 posted:Iirc Taika has said he didn't watch any of the previous Thor movies while prepare to make Thor 3; The Cinematic Universe
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:23
|
|
|
achillesforever6 posted:Iirc Taika has said he didn't watch any of the previous Thor movies while prepare to make Thor 3 Smart man 
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:24
|
|
|
teagone posted:Smart man By the way, thank you for all that you do in these threads. You contribute pretty well. Also yeah I kind of agree. Let him make his own since there's no particular reason to have it come out of something of the previous Thor films or MCU.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:29
|
|
|
K. Waste posted:I can't tell if I'm just drunk or that Thor: Ragnarok trailer actually looks pretty good with solid composition and good use of contrast. It's certainly drat more visually distinctive than previous Thors.       It leans quite a bit on Kirby's aesthetic, leading to the question: why hasn't Marvel Studios done that to begin with? achillesforever6 posted:Iirc Taika has said he didn't watch any of the previous Thor movies while prepare to make Thor 3; Ha!
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:31
|
|
|
a cock shaped fruit posted:Is that song something made for the trailer? Or is it an actual track? It's a banger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G02wKufX3nw ... at least the first half of the trailer. Not sure about the last half.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:33
|
|
|
K. Waste posted:Like, who would have thought that Taika Waititi would make a movie that looks more visually interesting movie than loving Ryan Coogler?  a cock shaped fruit posted:Is that song something made for the trailer? Or is it an actual track? It's a banger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G02wKufX3nw
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:36
|
|
|
Gatts posted:By the way, thank you for all that you do in these threads. You contribute pretty well. No problem. Love me some nerd poo poo, especially stuff related to DC  Think Dark_Tzitzimine and I always have a finger on the pulse of DCEU news across the web haha.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:41
|
|
|
Like seriously, What We Do in the Shadows is visually on point.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:43
|
|
|
Touche. Schwarzwald posted:It's certainly drat more visually distinctive than previous Thors. It's like what me and Fart City are getting into, mate. See below: Fart City posted:I get what you're saying, and I definitely appreciate the examples you provided to reinforce your read, but c'mon. The only reason there is such a term as "a fringe MCU film" is because of Gunn. The most aesthetically experimental MCU movie before GOTG was the original Thor, and that's just because Branagh had the stones to go all-in on his Kirby hand. Without GOTG shaking up what the "house style" could be, we might not have gotten a Dr. Strange. And I definitely doubt that without their success we would have gotten something as visually unique and out there as Ragnarok. Turns out that Marvel was never the problem. The problem was the lack of imagination on the part of the filmmakers and their production teams. They and their fans can no longer hide behind the excuses of Marvel's "house style" or the superficial content of canon. Waititi is making them all look like posers, precious indie neophytes who came off the like of Creed or Cop Car and figured that loving comic book bullshit was enough. Waititi - as far as can be discerned from the trailer - is not uncritically enthusiastic about Thor or Hulk or whatever. He's an underdog with something to prove. He's trying to prove that Thor isn't bullshit. And it's working. More than god drat Spider-Man or Black Panther, the second sequel in nobody's favorite Marvel franchise looks like the most nuanced thing they've ever done. wyoming posted:Like seriously, It's a fair cop! Make Waititi the Zack Snyder of the MCU! He can do it!
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:46
|
|
|
This is a fantastic sci-fi control panel. Love that big crazy button.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:48
|
|
|
Guy A. Person posted:Thor 3 looks awesome. Do I finally have to get around to watching the first two? God, no. I think they're the two worst films in the MCU and I didn't even make it all the way through Dark World. I'm not even all that geeked on that Thor 3 trailer but feel like I should be. I think I just don't like the character I think is my my problem. Even as a kid I didn't get into him and I haven't liked Hemsworth either. I really like Hulk more than most and I'm still not jacked up to see Ragnarok although I have to admit the visual elements look really good and the insanity of it all could very well be entertaining. Way more psyched for Black Panther, Punisher and DDs3.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:50
|
|
|
Thor looks better than Justice League. Both look great. I think I just like the Thor trailer's music better.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:51
|
|
|
So not only is Valkyrie not white, they also gender-swapped Gordon Freeman.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:52
|
|
|
K. Waste posted:Waititi is making them all look like posers, precious indie neophytes who came off the like of Creed ... The gently caress was wrong was wrong with Creed? I thought it was great.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:53
|
|
|
BiggerBoat posted:I just don't like the character I think is my my problem. I love the MCU's take on Thor. He's just increasingly this big, doofy Golden Retreiver in
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:55
|
|
|
Phylodox posted:I love the MCU's take on Thor. He's just increasingly this big, doofy Golden Retreiver in human form. Clearly him and Parademon surfing Aquaman need to have a real bro-Aquadad roadtrip ala Brave and the Bold. Adding that humor to Thor in those shorts is the best thing that was done.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 03:57
|
|
|
Fart City posted:I like to believe that the storyboards for Ragnarok were only accessible in their native media: airbrushed on the side of a fleet of vans. I was going to quibble, but then I remembered that Hulk faces off with Fenrir. That would be a super bitchin' van side panel.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 04:01
|
|
|
Sir Kodiak posted:This is a fantastic sci-fi control panel. Love that big crazy button. And not even crazy! Seems like sensible, smart graphic design to clearly indicate to the user what its purpose is: hyperspace jump. Would be at home next to the Rear Window Defrost button or the Cruise Control switch.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 04:03
|
|
|
Phylodox posted:I love the MCU's take on Thor. He's just increasingly this big, doofy Golden Retreiver in I agree, though I think he's finally going to embrace the whole "I'm the loving God of Thunder" that the MCU has sheepishly avoided all this time. Granted, when they first introduced him, it was the first time they had to deal with the magical elements of comics but now that we have Dr. Strange, Celestials/Ego, and whatnot, Thor can go around saying he's the God of Thunder without winking at the audience every time. I'm hoping his godhood will be center stage in this film because Hela sure as hell (  ) isn't backing down from claiming her rightful title. He may even use the Odin-force at some point.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 04:05
|
|
|
Well, Thor was about him learning humility, and The Dark World was about him having doubts about his commitment to Asgard, so it makes sense he wouldn't be going full-on Thunder God in those, but this one is obviously exploring the full ramifications of that.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 04:08
|
|
|
Fart City posted:Hey man, I'm in it exclusively for Taika Waititi. What We Do In The Shadows and Hunt For The Wilderpeople are legit. Same. I have extreme comic book movie fatigue but I will see this movie because of him. I saw the first Thor, but not the second. It doesn't sound like I have to see the second one to catch up.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 04:09
|
|
|
SleepCousinDeath posted:It's also hard to get bored when you're getting slapped in the face with dutch angles constantly.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 04:11
|
|
|
BiggerBoat posted:God, no. I think they're the two worst films in the MCU and I didn't even make it all the way through Dark World.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 04:15
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 09:53 |
|
|
K. Waste posted:gently caress it, screencap time: I'm bothered by the lack of a hard black in these. These don't look great compared to similar shots in Wonder Woman.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2017 04:17
|
|
