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starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

The Titanic posted:

What will happen if they launch 3.0 but they can't do what the PCGamer guy did?

Don't worry, for as long as I remember people have latched on to the idea of a "super secret dev build" for many, many games that come out with only 10%of promised features. It will serve here too.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 06:37

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# ? May 15, 2024 08:38

Combat Theory: Jul 16, 2017

The Titanic posted:

Are you not at all hyped about the fact that PCGamer guy saw some magical version of the game nobody else has seen, running well enough to proclaim it all?

What will happen if they launch 3.0 but they can't do what the PCGamer guy did?

Sadly not much. A friend of mine put it best

"the average citizen doesn't play the game. And if he does he doesn't care for gameplay, game performance or networking. Look at us, wew, nearly doxxed myself lol, we are a bunch of salty players, half of us refunded and the other half went away to not have to see the misery this game became. We have seen too much, played too much. The emperor has no clothes. If I was at cig I would ignore what we say at this point too, because they already got the last penny from us and we are just possible refund losses to them"

# ? Jul 23, 2017 06:37

Sindai: Jan 24, 2007; i want to achieve immortality through not dying

Amazing Zimmo posted:

https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/888477677522255872

Can anyone explain to me what this has to do with cargo? or anything for that matter?

I can't wait to slowly carry crates of salvage one by one from a wreck onto my ship. If there's one thing I crave in an action game, it's hours and hours of crate carrying. Bet those idiots who designed every other game ever to let you put stuff in your inventory with the press of a button are feeling pretty stupid now.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 06:47

Theotus: Nov 8, 2014

The Titanic posted:

Woohoo! Good to know.

I've been out in the horrible heat doing stuff, now my very lobster like self is hoping I'm not as burned as I'm feeling like I am.

I hope you accepted my friend request because I have no idea how to find you on twitch without a link.

I did! Check the vod out for sure, you were killing it. We were having a ton of fun doing character customization toward the end and that poo poo was hilarious.

Also is the game out yet?

# ? Jul 23, 2017 07:09

Malachite_Dragon: Mar 31, 2010; Weaving Merry Christmas magic

It's out, and a good game

for me to poop on.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 07:22

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

The Titanic posted:

I think CS will eventually cross over more to women, it's still a fairly new school relatively speaking. It'll just take more brave women to wade into another male dominated avenue, but it'll equal out eventually. Some of the best and smartest professors I had were women, too. Just another hurdle to cross.

I don't how to express this properly but the number of women in CS (e: in the US at least) has been decreasing steadily for decades. There was a time in the eighties when almost 40% of the CS undergraduate students in the US were women. The hurdle was already crossed, and -for whatever reason- women jumped back. Hopefully they'll give it another try.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 07:30

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

I blame the toxicity of nerds that fled into computers because it didn't challenge their social skills that became rats backed into a corner because it turned out that computers and social skills aren't mutually exclusive.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 08:35

Maw: Feb 18, 2013; Mere minutes after discovering the new technology, it was used to send me a crude ASCII dong.

Combat Theory posted:

Here's the double whopper of Darkstar in full troll mode. That butt slide glitch we actually got from a cig qa video, what's more hilarious than getting killed by a t-posing commando? Getting killed by a butt sliding commando.

https://youtu.be/MbPvKUWiRs8

https://youtu.be/X4leFrga2Tk

Ahaha I remember this.

"He's bad and he should feel bad, that's the only loving way he can kill me" :discourse:

# ? Jul 23, 2017 08:55

Crazypoops: Jul 17, 2017

Ghostlight posted:

I blame the toxicity of nerds that fled into computers because it didn't challenge their social skills that became rats backed into a corner because it turned out that computers and social skills aren't mutually exclusive.

I believe we're all quite aware of the origins of this thread sir.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 09:25

MedicineHut: Feb 25, 2016

Latin Pheonix posted:

Just to clarify what i mean; on the schedule, each individual task (e.g. 'Entity owner manager' or 'inventory system support') keeps getting delayed, but the overall dates for evocati/ptu remain unchanged. This leads me to believe that it will all be thrown 'out the door' as soon as the last task is complete with minimal evocati/ptu testing as soon as the last task is done and the whole patch will be a broken mess just like 2.3.2 was earlier this year. I don't think they they're going to push back the release date later than gamescom because i don't think even CR is shameless enough to walk on stage after the utter disaster that 3.0's dev cycle has been with a straight face, shrug his shoulders and say "welp, it's still not done!".

Hence my prediction: last minute broken 3.0 shat out just before gamescom, CR inexplicably proud, fans lap it up and ask for more, this thread continues to laugh at them.

Also apologies for my lovely grammar/typing, i'm currently bed-bound on heavy painkillers for 2 weeks in recovery from not-minor surgery with nothing but an ipad (and it's unfamiliar virtual keyboard) to type with.

Get well soon.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 09:49

Bootcha: Nov 13, 2012; Truly, the pinnacle of goaltending; Grimey Drawer

Combat Theory posted:

edit: the stuff from that twitch link is gross and shouldnt matter to anyone. sorry for the mess, will make sure to watch out better in the future

#Imastarcitizen

# ? Jul 23, 2017 10:59

his nibs: Feb 27, 2016; Welcome to the
Dream Factory; Grimey Drawer

# ? Jul 23, 2017 11:23

Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

Thoatse posted:

https://i.imgur.com/uomJzJQ.gifv

# ? Jul 23, 2017 11:24

tastychicken: Jul 17, 2007; Title text goes here

The Sickening And Heartbreaking Truth posted:

In the last 500 years, the Fourth Stimpire has dominated four systems, which it has united into one starzone, Stimsis. The Fourth Stimpire has origins from the Ten Empire War in which 10 of the United Stimpires revolted against each rules. All empires except for the fourth swore freedom upon their citizens. There is no free speech in the Fourth Stimpire, and all self-controlled transportation has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to patients. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a glass grinding machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with dangerous transplants. After the painful, 52 hour surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps painful resistors into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards.

Sexual stimulation in any way within the grounds of the Fourth Stimpire is strictly prohibited, and anyone detected even touching their sexual organs will be subjected to a penectomy or if the offender was a female, they would then have a razor inserted into their ovaries. They would pump a blue solution into the womb until the stitchings burst. Offenders would also be forced to show their operated areas in public, and they would always harass and punch them to a pulp, against their will.

Otherwise, offenders would be tazed with the worst type of electricity in the systematic district, causing so much pain, the victim would scream and flail in madness. The pain would also triple every second, but no death would be incurred. This is also used in combat against enemy units, which is why all UEE forces must wear the upgraded suit to block this effect.

However, enertainment is also questionable in UEE grounds. Sporting events end with the losing team being rounded into a grinder and shredded on live television, boxing matches end with the loser having their hands removed without anasthesia, flight races would end with the losers having their arms and legs removed, then being injected with insanity, for entertainment. People are also forced into these events, by undergoing a painful 127 hour procedure which involves tweaking the muscles so they will not listen to brain commands, and then having a painful drug injected which also causes madness if the player is not sporting. This is all for entertainment, and anyone not watching any of it during sporting times and cheering for the winning team, they will be imprisoned into galactic camps.

Snuff films are also broadcast, and actors are actually murdered just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into a macerator and having their execution written into the film. Any film that does not feature someone being murdered will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - vivisection.

All executions are broadcast, and anyone who misses even a millisecond, even by blinking, will be executed. All citizens must boo to the person being executed, and the family is gathered to be injected with eternators, which cause pain forever, making them immoral but feeling the pain tenfold every millisecond. They cannot pass out, but they will feel like it forever.

Conquests by this Stimpire end in the planet being razed, and all the citizens being executed in the same way as their citizens are. The planet is then destroyed and all remnants of it are removed, and any memories of it will be erased instantly from civil minds. People who are also killed are also erased from memories, and all memories of them, including toys and pictures, are destroyed.

Prisoners undergo 40,000 years of relentless and endless labor, and anyone not complying is sentenced to the eternator injection. All prisoners injected with eternators are placed into capsules and launched into far space, then the room is closed tight to ensure maximum insanity. Some prisoners are also subjected to the removal of blood, the lungs, the liver, the genitals, the skeleton, the muscles, the eyes, and even the injection of pressure. Prisoners sentenced to pressure chambers are locked in until they are inflated to a high level. The decompression is then stopped to make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable.

Children born on the 14th of July are subjected to the removal of their skeleton and an implant of a silver liquid to replace it. The nervous sysem is also injected in various parts to ensure it is five times more sensitive than the average.

Restaurants also are ordered to serve civil meat, and anyone attending must give themself up to be cooked into a grotesque meal. They are cooked alive, undergoing extreme pain, and are then subjected to industrial grinders and blenders. The Stimpire orders at least 1 million citizens to be dispatched every day, as they are afraid the population may overthrow them. But only one planet is cared for, and the rest are banned from eating, drinking, talking, using technology, touching anyone, wearing unauthorized clothes, touching buildings, or walking a centimeter out of designated routes. Civil enforcers are on every planet, and they are engineered so that they are 40 times larger than the 300 quadrillion population. At least 7 billion die every 12 hours under this rule.

Thoughts are also surveyed, and anyone who does not think anything to loving the Stimpire with more than their capabilities will be sentenced to a prison. Prisoners who are punished for this violation will meet their greatest fear, only to have it amplified so they will turn insane as they imagine it exactly as they fear it. They then undergo a painful extraction of all fluids, to be replaced by a toxin which causes permanent irritation. The unknown substance keeps the subject aging normally, except they will never die. Prisoners punished in this way are unable to be reverted, despite many efforts, and they will never be able to be disposed.

The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the galactic space of this sickening empire.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 11:34

Wrecked Angle: May 12, 2012; "JURASSIC PARK!"

Combat Theory posted:

Here's the double whopper of Darkstar in full troll mode. That butt slide glitch we actually got from a cig qa video, what's more hilarious than getting killed by a t-posing commando? Getting killed by a butt sliding commando.

https://youtu.be/MbPvKUWiRs8

https://youtu.be/X4leFrga2Tk

Don't forget when watching these, this is the game which will soon feature harsh death penalties for your character. It is also a strategic and tactical FPS like Arma, not run-and-gun like Call of Doody.

This guy gets it.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 11:47

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Amazing Zimmo posted:

https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/888477677522255872

Can anyone explain to me what this has to do with cargo? or anything for that matter?

I can't wait to manually stack a thousand identical boxes that spilled out from a procedural generated wreck for five spacebucks each.

After doing this for several hours it will turn out selling each and every space crate won't even cover my fuel costs so I will swipe my credit card to afford more space petrol.

Then I will return to the planet to find another wreck to salvage another thousand space UPS packages.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 11:54

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

This is the game play loop to end all game play loops.

Everyone should charge money for basic functionality.

I'd make the ESC key $10 DLC.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 12:01

Nanako the Narc: Sep 6, 2011

MedicineHut posted:

Get well soon.

Thank you, fortunately the boredom is worse than the pain now

DancingShade posted:

I can't wait to manually stack a thousand identical boxes that spilled out from a procedural generated wreck for five spacebucks each.

After doing this for several hours it will turn out selling each and every space crate won't even cover my fuel costs so I will swipe my credit card to afford more space petrol.

Then I will return to the planet to find another wreck to salvage another thousand space UPS packages.

Has it never occurred to ANY of these people how incredibly boring it will be if, after popping a cargo ship, you then have to step out and painstakingly grab each crate, float back to your ship, put it down, float out again, pick up another crate and repeat 10-20 times for a relatively small hauling ship? Seriously, has no-one asked about this on reddit or spectrum? Has no developer stopped for a moment to consider this?

As an aside does anyone have a good game they could recommend for ipad?

# ? Jul 23, 2017 12:33

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Latin Pheonix posted:

Has it never occurred to ANY of these people how incredibly boring it will be

If the Elite Dangerous community taught me anything it's that those sorts of people crave boring and monotonous.

They want you to earn loving everything in the most painful and player unfriendly ways possible.

God help you if you did something in a way both profitable and fun. That basically makes you the Worst Person ever to them.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 12:34

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

What new vehicles are expected to come with 3.0? I see some expecting that most recent bike (Aopoa Nox), and the new buggy (Tumbril Cyclone). I'm thinking not. A rework of the Aurora, I think, is the only vehicle thing slated for 3.0.

Are Aopoa and Tumbril newly introduced companies in the lore?

# ? Jul 23, 2017 12:36

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

See "the dream" is that each autistic narcissistic space captain will have a full crew of loyal human players who are ready to jump to commands and generally be their space bitches like it's some kind of elite prestigious raiding guild from everquest.

So those people will do all the boring stuff while Captain Autism masturbates on the bridge while issuing commands.

Or at least, that's "the dream". Reality would be "You are alone and nobody wants to play with you because lol your social skills are non existent you unlikable gently caress. Have fun with your thousand dollar space barge you can't crew".

# ? Jul 23, 2017 12:39

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

Amazing Zimmo posted:

https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/888477677522255872

Can anyone explain to me what this has to do with cargo? or anything for that matter?

Notice how this is just carrying the crate over from the ship into the world space, from that bug fix video posted a few pages ago.

I guess they are really proud they fixed the disappearing crate bug.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 13:12

Nanako the Narc: Sep 6, 2011

DancingShade posted:

If the Elite Dangerous community taught me anything it's that those sorts of people crave boring and monotonous.

They want you to earn loving everything in the most painful and player unfriendly ways possible.

God help you if you did something in a way both profitable and fun. That basically makes you the Worst Person ever to them.

But even in ED you could scoop cargo without having to physically carry it, and in every truck simulator i've seen the loading/unloading has been, well, simulated. I guess i just don't understand some people :shrug:

# ? Jul 23, 2017 13:13

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Latin Pheonix posted:

But even in ED you could scoop cargo without having to physically carry it, and in every truck simulator i've seen the loading/unloading has been, well, simulated. I guess i just don't understand some people .

Fidelity!

# ? Jul 23, 2017 13:15

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Latin Pheonix posted:

But even in ED you could scoop cargo without having to physically carry it, and in every truck simulator i've seen the loading/unloading has been, well, simulated. I guess i just don't understand some people .

Have you never played Deus Ex? The best box stacking game ever, if it weren't for all that obnoxious shooting and sneaking and exploring and talking that gets in the way of things.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 13:16

Kromlech: Jun 28, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

Tippis posted:

Have you never played Deus Ex? The best box stacking game ever, if it weren't for all that obnoxious shooting and sneaking and exploring and talking that gets in the way of things.

Sorry but Tomb Raider is the best box stacking game ever.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 13:38

Sabreseven: Feb 27, 2016

happyhippy posted:

Notice how this is just carrying the crate over from the ship into the world space, from that bug fix video posted a few pages ago.

I guess they are really proud they fixed the disappearing crate bug.

Notice how the 'ship' the clip begins at is a static scenario and not actually a flying ship capable of moving from that location?

Basically, it's a vid of a guy carrying a box and nothing more, there is no physics grid attatched to the 'crashed' ship other than the same one for the world space. Well done CIG for making this previously unattainable goal a reality. :lol:

# ? Jul 23, 2017 13:49

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

You fools!
You cant carry a box on or off a space ship in any of those mediocre games!

# ? Jul 23, 2017 13:49

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

happyhippy posted:

You fools!
You cant carry a box on or off a space ship in any of those mediocre games!

In that case the Best Game Ever is already out:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/516750/My_Summer_Car/

You can stack cases of beer wherever you like, piss wherever you like. It's truly the endgame of games.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 13:57

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

The Titanic posted:

I don't really get it either, but admittedly when I was working on a Doom wad when I was 14 not many of my girlfriends were too interested. I think somewhere in the 90's games and computers had a stigma associated with them that made association with it unfavorable to be a part of. It all became the same sort of dirty underbelly as D&D.

The media was blaming video games for everything bad, etc etc. I don't really think it became mainstream until mid to late 2k.

Though computer science itself is very similar to stuff like engineering, and when I was getting my degree there were very few other women in CS. I'm not saying women aren't getting good educations though, because when I visited chemistry and medical schools there was probably more women than men present.

I think CS will eventually cross over more to women, it's still a fairly new school relatively speaking. It'll just take more brave women to wade into another male dominated avenue, but it'll equal out eventually. Some of the best and smartest professors I had were women, too. Just another hurdle to cross.

What's hosed up is that women had made many of the key advances in the field early on and they were well on their way to having 50/50 representation until the mid 80's. Then, many things happened to drive prospective young women away from CS.
http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/10/21/357629765/when-women-stopped-coding

# ? Jul 23, 2017 14:39

Esposito: Apr 5, 2003; Sic transit gloria. Maybe we'll meet again someday, when the fighting stops.

happyhippy posted:

Notice how this is just carrying the crate over from the ship into the world space, from that bug fix video posted a few pages ago.

I guess they are really proud they fixed the disappearing crate bug.

And am I imagining it, or does it still have the bug that came up during 'fixing' where the player/camera is now stuck on slight angle.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 14:44

radd: Jun 16, 2001; Super Spacefortress

XK posted:

What new vehicles are expected to come with 3.0? I see some expecting that most recent bike (Aopoa Nox), and the new buggy (Tumbril Cyclone). I'm thinking not. A rework of the Aurora, I think, is the only vehicle thing slated for 3.0.

Are Aopoa and Tumbril newly introduced companies in the lore?

I think planetary vehicles will be in, for a couple of reasons:

Ground vehicles in a Crysis mod aren't too challenging.
This would add new content (usable vehicles in a new environment) that they can pitch as progress, even if it does have a loading screen initially (like it will ever go away).
Ground vehicles bring it back to a near level playing field for old and new backers, so they can monetize the arms race to get better and better vehicles - might keep them going for a while longer.

The backers will probably fall over themselves with excitement that they can do something new, they will praise it as unprecedented and as proof Derek was wrong, and they will try and eke out what gameplay they can in this 'space game'.

radd fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Jul 23, 2017

# ? Jul 23, 2017 14:48

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Ground will be amazing.

Remember Elite Dangerous and how fun it was to drive endlessly on massive airless moons with nothing of interest to do outside of a handful of bland activities?

No? Oh.

Oh god, just realized it's going to be even worse than that in SC. In ED you couldn't dismount and it took effort to die in your buggy. So in SC if your ride gets wrecked for whatever reason and you're on foot... well, enjoy your 10 hour hike to the nearest way off the rock (assuming you even have one).

DancingShade fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Jul 23, 2017

# ? Jul 23, 2017 14:55

Combat Theory: Jul 16, 2017

Talking about women in computer science, I'm sure some of you already knew the story of Margaret Hamilton, but for those who don't, she was the programmer for the Apollo guidance computer. Here's a picture of her with the printed out source code that she wrote for it.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 15:02

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Combat Theory posted:

Talking about women in computer science, I'm sure some of you already knew the story of Margaret Hamilton, but for those who don't, she was the programmer for the Apollo guidance computer. Here's a picture of her with the printed out source code that she wrote for it.

And then there's Katherine Johnson � the OG computer:

�as in, the person who computed the launch windows, orbits, return paths and everything else that made space flight safe(ish) for everything from Mercury to Apollo to the space shuttle program (and who double-checked the machine calculations, because you can't fully trust those with something that important).

Tippis fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jul 23, 2017

# ? Jul 23, 2017 15:13

Combat Theory: Jul 16, 2017

I didn't know that story, that's pretty bad rear end. Funny enough I got most of the spaceflight trivia from Scott Manleys youtube channel. His star citizen video was also the first time I saw a full on citizen meltdown in the comments. He had to make it unlisted afterwards.

# ? Jul 23, 2017 15:19