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Zaphod42 posted:There's arguments to be made that RGB's color space / reproduction is better and when you look at the results it seems valid to me. YPbPr isn't the same thing. I just don't buy this. Are there some good rgb vs component side-by-sides? RGB is calculable from YPbPr and vice versa. You get the same color signals. Putting one above the other seems like some audiophile-style bs that will end up with people wanting to jump through hoops to get Wii scart cables instead of some $5 component cables from Amazon. Any difference in "sharpness" probably has more to do with how some specific piece of hardware outputs those different signals than converting between them.
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RZA Encryption posted:Are there some good rgb vs component side-by-sides? yes
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Jul 22, 2017 22:35
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al-azad posted:Didn't they make the re-release of Four Swords with online play a limited window release? It didn't have netplay and was a port of the GBA game to DSiWare with some additional content. But yes.
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Jul 22, 2017 22:39
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DoctorWhat posted:It didn't have netplay and was a port of the GBA game to DSiWare with some additional content. But yes. The key thing is it let you play any number, including solo with a dummy Link. The original was 4 exclusively. e: Or it may be 2-3, it definitely didn't have singleplayer in the original GBA release.
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Jul 22, 2017 22:58
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Yes, I've seen that and agree the Wii outputs rgb and component differently. quote:Any difference in "sharpness" probably has more to do with how some specific piece of hardware outputs those different signals than converting between them. The side-by-sides I'd like to see would be same device, same display, RGB vs RGB converted to component.
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Jul 22, 2017 23:04
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Anyone that tells you that they've played Four Swords is a liar.
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Jul 22, 2017 23:06
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Star Man posted:Anyone that tells you that they've played Four Swords is a liar. does 20 min of the GC version count?
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Jul 22, 2017 23:53
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FireMrshlBill posted:does 20 min of the GC version count? That's Four Swords Adventures, which shares 0 content with the GBA multiplayer game.
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Jul 23, 2017 00:00
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So I won one of the super famicom auctions I mentioned a couple days ago... Looking at getting a SD2SNES cart now.  Is this compatibility list up to date? https://sd2snes.de/blog/compatibility
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RZA Encryption posted:The side-by-sides I'd like to see would be same device, same display, RGB vs RGB converted to component. There's probably no significant and meaningful difference, from a layman's view, between the two. RGB might have a slight edge because its signal is essentially a flood of video data, but again, it's not something significant to end users. YPbPr exists precisely because RGB signals are so information-rich; by putting the brightness and sync on the green channel and eliminating that particular color channel, it meant that video cameras could store more high-quality video data per tape than they would have been able to do with RGB. And then this transported over to the consumer realm in the late 1990s, since lots of broadcasting and video work was done with YPbPr-enabled equipment already and adapting it for consumer TVs, DVD players, and then home consoles was comparatively simple to do, while also offering a notable benefit over RF, composite, and S-Video. That said, there is merit to raw RGB if you can use it. The most obvious reason is that I'm hard pressed to think of a pre-Xbox/GC/PS2 console that does YPbPr natively (be it right out the AV port or with a mod), but plenty of stuff does RGB + sync. And while RGB can be adapted to YPbPr, as with those SCART-to-YPbPr boxes or the HD Retrovision cables, that doesn't means its guaranteed to be a decent conversion the way running a raw RGB signal directly on a display might be.
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Jul 23, 2017 00:03
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RZA Encryption posted:The side-by-sides I'd like to see would be same device, same display, RGB vs RGB converted to component. This is my PCE with an RGB mod by a well regarded modder in the PCE community and a high quality cable running on my PVM 20M2MDU in RGB as well as through an RGB to component transcoder. Forgive the color difference. I bought the RGB to Component transcoder to use with my capture card but I never calibrated it because my capture card doesn't work with 240p. I dug it out just for you but I don't feel like calibrating it if I'm never going to use it again. RGB:  RGB Full Res Component:  Component Full Res The two are really similar but the component looks a bit softer to me, it's especially noticeable in the text and more notable in person than in the pictures.
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Breadallelogram posted:So I won one of the super famicom auctions I mentioned a couple days ago... It should be; I haven't heard any major news about ikari breaking the compatibility (or incompatibility, for that matter) of the SD2SNES of late, and that list of incompatible games looks like it has the same special chip support hiccups that have been afflicting every SNES flashcart.
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Jul 23, 2017 00:07
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Kthulhu5000 posted:It should be; I haven't heard any major news about ikari breaking the compatibility (or incompatibility, for that matter) of the SD2SNES of late, and that list of incompatible games looks like it has the same special chip support hiccups that have been afflicting every SNES flashcart. Wish it would speed up a little. That one of the things that makes the SNES Classic more enticing then the NES Classic is a lot of the major games that are not playable on the SD2SNES are playable there.
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Jul 23, 2017 00:09
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Star Man posted:Anyone that tells you that they've played Four Swords is a liar. If you're talking the GBA one I played through it with some friends in high school.
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Jul 23, 2017 00:11
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Breadallelogram posted:So I won one of the super famicom auctions I mentioned a couple days ago... Correct. To elaborate, where they say "Star Ocean (Unhacked version)", there is a patch converting it from a 48 megabit ROM to a 96 megabit ROM and bypassing the need for the decompression chip. Both Japanese and English-patched ROM's which are expanded to 96 megabits in this manner will work with the SD2SNES, as well as the SNES Powerpak (but not with the Super Everdrive as that doesn't enough ROM space).
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Jul 23, 2017 00:16
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Any argument on component v RGB is actually pretty pointless since any system that outputs component natively also outputs at a higher resolution which obviously beats RGB's 480i/240p limits. The Retrovision cables and stuff might be slightly softer or whatever, but that would be more due to conversion issues than anything with the format itself.
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I just picked up an AV Famicom at a con today and I have a small problem: my 72-60 pin adapter isn't playing nice with it. It works fine on my RF Famicom, but all I get is a green screen on the AV. I cleaned all the contacts on the converter and the system, but still nothing. Regular Famicom carts work just fine. Are such converters incompatible with the AV Fami? If there is one that works, could someone recommend one?
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ProjektorBoy posted:What about the wacky Lodgenet N64 controllers that hooked up to hotel TV's? Where they charged something stupid like $5 for 2 hours access to a game. The system isn't in the controller, it's in the TV or a box hidden near it, and it loads games in over the hotel cable network. If you wished to do so, you could splice a normal N64 connector onto one of the LodgeNet controllers and use it with a normal N64, albeit the special LodgeNet buttons would either not work or just send nonsense as far as normal N64 software is concerned. Elliotw2 posted:Any argument on component v RGB is actually pretty pointless since any system that outputs component natively also outputs at a higher resolution which obviously beats RGB's 480i/240p limits. The Retrovision cables and stuff might be slightly softer or whatever, but that would be more due to conversion issues than anything with the format itself. There's no such thing as RGB being limited to 480i/240p, where'd you get that notion? There's nothing stopping analog RGB from working at much higher resolutions than 480i, everyone's old VGA monitors was using analog RGB in the first place. Standard quality cables can easily handle up to 1920*1200 resolution over normal lengths of cable without resulting in your video being too blurred from interference, that's one of the reasons 1920x1080 was decided on for the top HDTV resolution when the standards were being set in the early 90s. It was expected that analog interconnects might have to be used between a digital tuner and a high resolution display screen without a tuner. The Xbox 360 natively outputs an HD RGB signal when you use the VGA cables, for that matter (PS3 does not have any native support for that, so VGA with the PS3 is all about converting the HDMI or component options).
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You know exactly what I loving mean, not the Xbox 360 or HDTV's running RGB via VGA cables, I mean Wii and older consoles.
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Moai Ou posted:I just picked up an AV Famicom at a con today and I have a small problem: my 72-60 pin adapter isn't playing nice with it. It works fine on my RF Famicom, but all I get is a green screen on the AV. I cleaned all the contacts on the converter and the system, but still nothing. Regular Famicom carts work just fine. Are such converters incompatible with the AV Fami? If there is one that works, could someone recommend one? NES-to-Famicom adapters (that is, adapters to play the larger NES cartridges on a Famicom) seem to be a real crapshoot in general. Anything "YOBO" branded especially seems useless. That said, I recall having good luck with this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adaptor-Converter-Famicom-72-pin-to-60-pin-nes-games-Console-Nintendo-NTSC-PAL-/322349965994
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Rirse posted:Wish it would speed up a little. That one of the things that makes the SNES Classic more enticing then the NES Classic is a lot of the major games that are not playable on the SD2SNES are playable there. This is exactly why I'm buying a SNES. Almost all of the games that I have any interest in playing on my SNES that I don't have the carts for anymore and can't use my flash cart for are on the Classic. Except Stunt Race FX, but that's more of a curiosity. I played it once in a TRU back in the day as a kid and thought it was interesting at the time.
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Elliotw2 posted:You know exactly what I loving mean, not the Xbox 360 or HDTV's running RGB via VGA cables, I mean Wii and older consoles. Again. There's no "RGB limit" that makes it only work with 480i/"240p". It's perfectly capable of running at 480p and much higher. Some consoles have quirks in stock RGB output that prevent them from supporting 480p without further modification, but that's not RGB's fault anymore than composite is limited to "240p" because that's what an NES will put over the link, or that component was limited to 480p because a GameCube would only support 480p over it (while an Xbox and a PS2 would both give you 720p AND 1080i modes with appropriate games).
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Kthulhu5000 posted:That said, there is merit to raw RGB if you can use it. The most obvious reason is that I'm hard pressed to think of a pre-Xbox/GC/PS2 console that does YPbPr natively (be it right out the AV port or with a mod), but plenty of stuff does RGB + sync. And while RGB can be adapted to YPbPr, as with those SCART-to-YPbPr boxes or the HD Retrovision cables, that doesn't means its guaranteed to be a decent conversion the way running a raw RGB signal directly on a display might be.
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Jul 23, 2017 03:23
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DoctorWhat posted:That's Four Swords Adventures, which shares 0 content with the GBA multiplayer game. I'm fully aware, was adding onto the joke since it is surprising to hear people be able to say they played that even with its single player ability.
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Jul 23, 2017 03:24
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Star Man posted:Anyone that tells you that they've played Four Swords is a liar. I played through the whole thing once, but I had the advantage of triplet cousins who all had GBAs at the time. I have also played Crystal Chronicles with 4 people, for like half an hour before one GBA ran out of battery.
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I went to a gaming party in the mid-2000s that had five CRTs, five GameCubes, four Game Boy Players, four GameCube-Game Boy Advance link cables, and four broadband adapters all hooked up in the living room. I got to experience Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Crystal Chronicles, and Four Swords Adventures the way God intended, and it was glorious.
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Jul 23, 2017 06:48
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Now that I'm more or less done buying games I think I'm going to move on to collecting arcade marquees and cabinet art. I realized I have literally nothing hanging on my walls and it's a market that's surprisingly cheap even with originals.
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Did Tetra's Trackers in 4 Swords ever get a US release, like as part of the 3DS release or something else? I had a friend with an import copy of 4 Swords, and it was a really cool game mode, I think it was my favorite of the different modes in 4 Swords.
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Anyone with a NEO GEO AES can confirm something for me? I picked up one with the 3.1 Universal bios installed, and I noticed an issue. It's resetting the bios settings to default [European Console] instead of maintaining USA Console on reboot/restart. Do I need the memory card for it to save the settings? I'll probably get the Neo Masta aftermarket one since it's a bit more affordable and uses newer memory technology that doesn't require a battery. Also troubleshooting "stray noisy" black pixels on a few games... I'm not sure if its due to the lovely composite video or the HD scaler on the Samsung HD set. I'll bust out the RGBs cables and the Extron scaler for a "more proper" look later.
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Chainclaw posted:Did Tetra's Trackers in 4 Swords ever get a US release, like as part of the 3DS release or something else? I had a friend with an import copy of 4 Swords, and it was a really cool game mode, I think it was my favorite of the different modes in 4 Swords. Nope. From what I recall, they pulled it out so they could sell it as a separate game as part of a cheap tactic to put more GC-GBA games on the shelves but after 4 Swords Adventures flopped they didn't bother following through.
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Kthulhu5000 posted:NES-to-Famicom adapters (that is, adapters to play the larger NES cartridges on a Famicom) seem to be a real crapshoot in general. Anything "YOBO" branded especially seems useless. I tend to recommend this kind of adapter to play NES games on the AV Famicom, since it's a bit more robust than the other one and sits very sturdily on top of the console. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shielded-72...4sAAOSwa-dWk88o
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Any recommendations for a Super Famicom AC adapter, playing in the US? I found some 3rd party Japanese ones and I think I have a plug adapter around here somewhere, but I've also seen that a Genesis model 1 AC adapter works as well.
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Breadallelogram posted:Any recommendations for a Super Famicom AC adapter, playing in the US? I found some 3rd party Japanese ones and I think I have a plug adapter around here somewhere, but I've also seen that a Genesis model 1 AC adapter works as well. The AC adapter that comes with the SFC will work fine on 110V.
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All New Sonic posted:I went to a gaming party in the mid-2000s that had five CRTs, five GameCubes, four Game Boy Players, four GameCube-Game Boy Advance link cables, and four broadband adapters all hooked up in the living room. I got to experience Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Crystal Chronicles, and Four Swords Adventures the way God intended, and it was glorious. That still pales in comparison to getting the full setup for Game Boy Faceball 2000. You need 16 Game Boys or other systems that have a Game Link port and play GB cartridges, 15 Game Link cables, 7 Four Player Adapters, and of course 16 Faceball 2000 cartridges. Last I heard, the biggest confirmed game ever gotten together was 10 players at once, but the game does support 16 which has been shown to work in emulator setups.
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Has anyone ever played the Super Metroid Zero Mission romhack? I have never played the GBA Zero mission (never owned a GBA) and I went into this romhack pretty much blind. I like Super Metroid a lot, but I can't use any "advanced" tactics (for some reason I just can't get the feel for wall jumping, only can do maybe 1-2 jumps consecutively) so the difficulty feels quite high. It feels like a bit more of a maze than the original SM, but it's a lot of fun to play, even though I only made it to Kraid's lair so far.
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fishmech posted:That still pales in comparison to getting the full setup for Game Boy Faceball 2000. welp, looks like I have a new personal goal.
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fishmech posted:That still pales in comparison to getting the full setup for Game Boy Faceball 2000. Someone needs to do that with 16 Super Game Boy 2's. If Faceball allows teams, everyone on the same team can have the same color palette selection.  So I've just played a dozen stars in Super Mario 64 Rumble Edition. Ready for some thoughts? First, the Rumble Pack is a terrible accessory. Now I'll be the first to admit that part of my problem may be that I have an off brand rumble pack purchased around 1998 that hasn't been used since then. Still, if you have an add on designed to shake as much as possible, do not have it plug into the underside of the controller. I've had it shake itself right out three times. And it's a big, heavy block on the back end of where I'm supporting the controller. The N64 controller is unpleasant enough, there's a reason I've had this accessory locked in my shed for twenty years. As you'd expect for what is essentially the first console game to be implemented with this kind of feature (there were force feedback controllers for PC games before this), it is badly implemented. Here are things that trigger rumbling:
So things are shaking a lot, but not necessarily is interesting ways. The way the rumble pack was balanced also made some of the low level and short burst rumbles just feel wobbly. I can't really say that the Rumble Pak adds a whole lot to this game. It's still Mario 64, so that's good.
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TeaJay posted:Has anyone ever played the Super Metroid Zero Mission romhack? I have never played the GBA Zero mission (never owned a GBA) and I went into this romhack pretty much blind. I like Super Metroid a lot, but I can't use any "advanced" tactics (for some reason I just can't get the feel for wall jumping, only can do maybe 1-2 jumps consecutively) so the difficulty feels quite high. It feels like a bit more of a maze than the original SM, but it's a lot of fun to play, even though I only made it to Kraid's lair so far. I played a bit of it and it's pretty good. I dunno if this helps but IME most people that have trouble wall jumping Super Metroid are doing one or both of two things: "sliding" their thumbs across the D-pad and trying to press jump simultaneously. Let go of the D-pad and press the opposite direction, then hit the jump button immediately after that. It's way more reliable. Edit: Sliding the D-pad screws it up because you're likely to hit up or down accidentally, which interrupts the somersault. Hitting jump second works because I think Samus is programmed to wall jump only if she's moving away from the wall, or something like that. Mak0rz fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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Mak0rz posted:I played a bit of it and it's pretty good. This tip definitely helped me. I brought it up because I hit a location with a similar long vertical corridor from original SM where the animal teaches you how to wall jump (although there are alcoves on the left side in case you can't). I kinda try to do it now as a 1-2 motion - first press direction and jump immediately after. TeaJay fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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fishmech posted:That still pales in comparison to getting the full setup for Game Boy Faceball 2000. Sixteen people get to enjoy 5 fps gaming at the same time? Sign me up!
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