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Iron Twinkie posted:The anti-BDS legislation and today's hollow turd of a platform makes me think that the Democrats rightward shift is only going to accelerate. Their fundraising recently has dropped off a cliff. Their donor base is shrinking. I can only imagine that's from smaller contributors leaving the party in disgust, leaving them increasingly dependent on big donors. I can easily see that going exponential as they increasingly become the mouthpieces of a handful of unhinged billionaires to a degree that dwarfs what they are now which will only reinforce that cycle. Yeah but the eventual outcome of that is going to be the same corporate donors realizing they're wasting their money buying influence in a party that never wins any elections and just going to the GOP.
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"The programs of a new deal fundamentally reshaped American society and ensured for generations that we'd care for elderly and sick, provide for the impoverished and were so popular it got a president elected democrats, 2017: what if we talked about being tougher on mergers ex post facho has issued a correction as of 18:29 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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Shear Modulus posted:Yeah but the eventual outcome of that is going to be the same corporate donors realizing they're wasting their money buying influence in a party that never wins any elections and just going to the GOP. the way fundraising basically works is they do this already, but they throw a few bucks to the dems "just in case"
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ex post facho posted:"The programs of a new deal fundamentally reshaped American society and ensured for generations that we'd care for elderly and sick, provide for the impoverished and were so popular it got a president elected three consecutive times." also the dems held a majority in both houses of congress almost uninterrupted for the next 50 years
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Lessail posted:Uber, but for tax credits "what if instead of health care we just gave everyone a tax credit" oh wait thats the republican and democratic position. the only difference is if medicaid gets totally defunded or not.
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I think you will find that if you just tap into the great machinery of the republic and overcome severe structural disadvantages for decades and maintain perfect cohesion you might get a modest reform. Here, let me back up my argument by pointing to American reforms that have all become miserable failures if you even scratch the surface a little bit.
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ex post facho posted:not a single word about healthcare or a living wage, anywhere dawg he's rolling the plan out over several days
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steinrokkan posted:how are you going to suppress f-16 dropping napalm over you Plausibility of rebellion aside, "they have weapons!" remains kind of a dumb take in the absence of details.
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anime was right posted:the way fundraising basically works is they do this already, but they throw a few bucks to the dems "just in case" I guess so but eventually Soros and Steyer and whoever are going to have to start doing that too right
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"It is no great secret that without work, without education, people lose hope – and when people lose hope bad things happen. The time is long overdue for us to start investing in our young people, to help them get the jobs they need, to help them get the education they need and to help them get the job training they need so that they can be part of the middle class," Schumer said. ... Grants totaling $4 billion would go to state and local governments to provide summer and year-round job opportunities for low-income youth, and to fund important services such as transportation or child care to help young Americans work. Another $1.5 billion in competitive grants would go to states and local communities to provide on-the-job training and apprenticeship programs for low-income youth and disadvantaged young adults. Grant recipients would be encouraged to develop partnerships with employers, community colleges, community organizations and joint labor-management committees.
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Venuz Patrol posted:dawg he's rolling the plan out over several days dems dont want a single payer or MCA alternative, the national party has made this pretty clear, much less a living wage they've enshrined the parasitic relationship between insurers and health care into law for power, and they know if they start advocating for a more equitable system that will destroy those insurers they'll lose those big checks forever
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what's a joint labor-management committee? Are they going to legalize pot or no?
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zegermans posted:for reals though I've had a post or two that I deleted halfway through because I was like "uh is this antisemitic?" it depends. do you hate Israel because of a deep-seated hatred for Jews, or do you hate Israel's government because of identifiable government policies that you can point to? you're gonna get called an anti-Semite either way, but that's basically unavoidable - there's always going to be racists that cloak their hatred in stuff like that, and there's always going to be advocates who duck real criticisms by claiming anything negative is just concealed discrimination. suck it up and deal with it. just keep the hyperbole under control and don't jump to conclusions based on ethnicity
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FuriousxGeorge posted:what's a joint labor-management committee? Dems will support cannabis like they supported LGBT issues: a handful will defend it and provide some support to the people and all the rest will jump in at the last minute and back it up long after the fight is done. Oh and then centrists will smugly dismiss you for "still" being on that until it becomes a conventional policy they always supported.
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Concerned Citizen posted:"It is no great secret that without work, without education, people lose hope – and when people lose hope bad things happen. The time is long overdue for us to start investing in our young people, to help them get the jobs they need, to help them get the education they need and to help them get the job training they need so that they can be part of the middle class," Schumer said. Cool, so the same policies with mixed results and little staying power. Good stuff, good stuff.
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pelosi's lovely platform for all to see http://www.democraticleader.gov/abetterdeal/
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hahahhhh this is perfectly engineered to catalyze the worst takes imaginable on twitter
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:Cool, so the same policies with mixed results and little staying power. Good stuff, good stuff. i think it's a very good proposal, i'm disappointed you don't like it
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hhello im here for the tax credit's
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https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/889542970428596224 this doesn't sound very effective 
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ex post facho posted:pelosi's lovely platform for all to see So here's the proposal for jobs: double federal support for registered apprenticeship programs a tax credit to hire and train people Create a Network of Thousands of Partnerships between Businesses, Career Technical Programs, Public Schools and Community Colleges (whatever the gently caress this means) http://www.democraticleader.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/A-Better-Deal-on-Jobs.pdf And no legal pot. Donald Trump is going to be a two term President unless the Republicans impeach him. quote:In the days and weeks to come, we will propose more bold ideas to achieve our goal of filling and Bold, lol. FuriousxGeorge has issued a correction as of 19:05 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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Concerned Citizen posted:"It is no great secret that without work, without education, people lose hope – and when people lose hope bad things happen. The time is long overdue for us to start investing in our young people, to help them get the jobs they need, to help them get the education they need and to help them get the job training they need so that they can be part of the middle class," Schumer said. quote:
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nopantsjack posted:Every time I read this thread I thank God for Jeremy corbyn. brit electoral parties work a little differently, they get much more direct representation
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that talk of apprenticeships sounds nice. if only there was some organitionn they could work with that used to be a base of power for the dems, like some sort of union for trades 🤔
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ex post facho posted:pelosi's lovely platform for all to see this is it? this is the better deal reveal.... she says she's gonna create new high paying jobs, but doesn't say how...
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She said there's something about you That really reminds me of money She is the kind of a girl Who could say things that Weren't that funny I said what does that mean I really remind you of money She said who am I To blow against the wind
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quote:Beer Industry: As of 2016, five breweries controlled over 50 percent of global beer production http://www.democraticleader.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/A-Better-Deal-on-Competition-and-Costs.pdf Legalize home distilling. quote:Food Prices: The consolidation of six agricultural giants is set to threaten the safety of food and What the voters of this nation are really crying out for is more diversity in corn varietals at the supermarket. FuriousxGeorge has issued a correction as of 19:12 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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The good news is that we'll find out whether accelerationism works once and for all
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Concerned Citizen posted:i think it's a very good proposal, i'm disappointed you don't like it Hi, I'm extremely familiar with the organizations that enact these policies and laws like WIOA that the existence of these organizations are based on. AstheWorldWorlds has issued a correction as of 19:15 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:Hi, I'm extremely familiar with the organization's that enact these policies and laws like WIOA that the existence of these organizations are based on. hey I'm extremely familiar with the organization's that enact these policies and laws like WIOA that the existence of these organizations are based on., i'm cc. nice to meet you.
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Concerned Citizen posted:hey I'm extremely familiar with the organization's that enact these policies and laws like WIOA that the existence of these organizations are based on., i'm cc. nice to meet you. Oh good, then you should be aware that outside of a few areas they are only better than nothing because they are not literally nothing.
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Scent of Worf posted:https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/889542970428596224 Pener Kropoopkin posted:I imagine they'll compromise it down to being a mere advisory board, repackaged as some kind of "consumer information bureau." That way when they declare that there's price gouging without any legal consequences, consumers will have the information to decide whether or not the one company that controls the patents on the medicine they need to live deserves their business. 
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i know i shouldn't be let down by the democrats at this point, that i should expect them to gently caress up repeatedly and constantly. but god drat....it is killing me that we are ruled by these people
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no wonder the dems dumped millions into ossoff's campaign. he'd be just the guy to loving pitch this better deal
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