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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:it helps that we literally didn't let people vote until they affirmed its vailidity I mean I'm happy to disenfranchise people who don't support single payer but like I don't see that proposal gaining traction any time soon
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Fallen Hamprince posted:you'll be pleased to note that the dems have officially renounced idpol, the new platform contains no mention of LGBT rights lol See leftists, the Dems are willing to comprimise with you.
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Concerned Citizen posted:i can't believe the president of the united states alluded to orgies on yachts in front of children Why not?
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I don't see that proposal gaining traction any time soon Much like your party's platform 
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Well I'm accustomed to a smooth ride Or maybe I'm a dog who's lost its bite
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Jul 25, 2017 14:41
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Inescapable Duck posted:Centrist compromise; not letting those pesky minorities and LBGT rights get in the way of their bold new program of giving tax credits and passing new laws to go completely unenforced! lmfbo that the berniemen thought that senate dems minus 'idpol' meant anything other than 'the same policies but we stop talking about gay people'
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Fallen Hamprince posted:lmfbo that the berniemen thought that senate dems minus 'idpol' meant anything other than 'the same policies but we stop talking about gay people' Yea this was totally something the berniemen believed
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Jul 25, 2017 14:47
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constantly complaining about the only good part of centrist dems agenda, hoping that this will motivate them to make the other parts of their agenda good also
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Jul 25, 2017 14:49
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Yeah the Dem elite jettisoning their social stances at the first opportunity took their voters totally by surprise which is why they were all posting "Dems are gonna take a look in the mirror and say 'we gotta get more racist'" for six months.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:constantly complaining about the only good part of centrist dems agenda, hoping that this will motivate them to make the other parts of their agenda good also Well that or make the leftist takeover that much easier by making the centrists even more unappealing.
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MizPiz posted:Well that or make the leftist takeover that much easier by making the centrists even more unappealing. a leftist takeover would presuppose the left actually starts competing in primaries this midterm
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Jul 25, 2017 14:53
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hey, at least there wont be more women ceos
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Al! posted:hey, at least there wont be more women ceos Except for good ol' Ivanka
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SKULL.GIF posted:I found an article from the pre-escalator era that mentions Bryce prominently: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/magazine/scott-walker-and-the-fate-of-the-union.html holy poo poo this guy rules KomradeX posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/07/25/trumps-boy-scouts-speech-broke-with-80-years-of-presidential-tradition/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.0caed7550753 of course it glosses over the actually important part: the fact that the crowd of listening Boy Scouts joined in. he got them to boo Obama and yell out "We love Trump", and they chanted "USA, USA!" when he talked about repealing Obamacare that's the next generation of voters right there
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I'm about halfway through the Summer 2017 issue of The American Prospect, "The Wages of Neglect". For the most part, it's excellent, and def Suck Zone relevant. Highlights: Place Matters: As in the 1930s, progressives need economic development strategies for the left-behind regions of the country. by Harold Meyerson The Democrats’ ‘Working-Class Problem’: It’s not only with whites. It reaches well into the party’s base. by Stanley Greenberg Why the White Worker Theme Is Harmful: It’s a mistake to racialize an economy that harms the entire working class. by William Spriggs John Russo's "The Pittsburgh Conundrum" is spot-on, but unfortunately still behind the paywall.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:constantly complaining about the only good part of centrist dems agenda, hoping that this will motivate them to make the other parts of their agenda good also I guess I can't really blame you for thinking the Suck Zone constantly complains about idpol since you apparently just started reading it last week The only extent it comes up is to talk about when people use it as a bludgeon to silence people talking about ecpol (see: bend-the-knee-gate)
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Hamprince is too narrow minded to realize that the Democrats haven't dropped any of their social planks, but are simply reacting to calls for a more significant focus on economic problems. Only to have Pelosi & Schumer roll out the same stale dogturds they've been trying since the 80s and pretend it's some kind of great new deal.
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Let's just recap what happened with McCain: 1. rear end in a top hat rightfully gets cancer. 2. Dem leaders trip over themselves to wish him well and call him a hero. 3. McCain returns to vote against Dems every which way he can. 4. Laugh out loud.
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There was some piece about how the Dem's have been treating campaigning like marketing, causing dipshits like mook. And it really is the case. They don't have much else to offer, so they try to make up the difference in marketing.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:There was some piece about how the Dem's have been treating campaigning like marketing, causing dipshits like mook. And it really is the case. They don't have much else to offer, so they try to make up the difference in marketing. Well have you seen the other guys?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Hamprince is too narrow minded to realize that the Democrats haven't dropped any of their social planks, but are simply reacting to calls for a more significant focus on economic problems. Only to have Pelosi & Schumer roll out the same stale dogturds they've been trying since the 80s and pretend it's some kind of great new deal. moderate dems aren't going to shift left until they fear primaries more than generals, which in turn relies on leftists actually showing up to primaries
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Fallen Hamprince posted:moderate dems aren't going to shift left until they fear primaries more than generals, which in turn relies on leftists actually showing up to primaries Ok, but this has nothing to do with the stupid poo poo you were actually saying on this page.
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I believe in the future I may live in my car My radio tuned to The voice of a star
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If they fear the generals so much why can't they win them?
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FuriousxGeorge posted:If they fear the generals so much why can't they win them?
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logikv9 posted:America was headed down a dark path after getting rid of switchboards consolidate 👏more 👏switchboard 👏centers👏
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Fallen Hamprince posted:moderate dems aren't going to shift left until they fear primaries more than generals, which in turn relies on leftists actually showing up to primaries which is why their primaries are a clusterfuck of arcane rules and superdelegates and require very early registration, etc
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Frijolero posted:Let's just recap what happened with McCain: to Congressional Dems, McCain is a co-worker, not an enemy. they may be in opposition on the Senate floor, but that's them just acting out their roles, not any genuine opposition same with Scalise. they might argue and complain while they're on the clock, but after hours they'll all go out and play a friendly baseball game with each other and the lobbyists it still loving infuriates me that a lobbyist was literally a player on the Congressional GOP baseball team, and that not a single reporter had the balls to actually call it out or draw attention to it
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has anyone brought up redundant federal data centers?
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got any sevens posted:which is why their primaries are a clusterfuck of arcane rules and superdelegates and require very early registration, etc how will leftists ever primary congressional dems given the establishment's crucial superdelegate advantage - guy who knows a lot about how primaries work
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Main Paineframe posted:to Congressional Dems, McCain is a co-worker, not an enemy. they may be in opposition on the Senate floor, but that's them just acting out their roles, not any genuine opposition It's only gotten more obvious, I'm surprised more people aren't saying it.
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logikv9 posted:god drat superdelegates making sure that incumbent house / senate / gov dems remain Leftist who has voted in zero non-presidential primaries wonders why the Democratic party's legislators are so centrist. It must be the Lanyards' fault, he thinks.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:Leftist who has voted in zero non-presidential primaries wonders why the Democratic party's legislators are so centrist. It must be the Lanyards' fault, he thinks. Mods??? I didn't know we allowed scripts. This bot has been posting the same post for months!
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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/889527527085047810 :thinking:
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Fallen Hamprince posted:lmfbo that the berniemen thought that senate dems minus 'idpol' meant anything other than 'the same policies but we stop talking about gay people' but this is a good reminder that when people complain about democratic party idpol, they are complaining about this: quote:“Not everything is about an economic theory, right?” Clinton said, kicking off a long, interactive riff with the crowd at a union hall this afternoon.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:Leftist who has voted in zero non-presidential primaries wonders why the Democratic party's legislators are so centrist. It must be the Lanyards' fault, he thinks. You're just going down the list of stereotypes to post with no further comment huh Personally I'm like most voters in that I think my rep is good but everyone else's sucks rear end hell yeah
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