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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

https://twitter.com/DemocracyValues/status/889527933882302464

lmao

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Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
DEATH PANELS

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

oh my lord :lol:

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.
https://twitter.com/BretRagnarsson/status/889589029930401792

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011


Oh, my storybook lover
You have underestimated my power
As you shortly will discover

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/DemSocialists/status/889500434414669824

free advice to democrats: people's existing jobs can be made to be better

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Trump, in an effort to to get his bill passed, told thousands of children that Obamacare is bad and rolled out "victims" of Obamacare to discuss how bad it is in front of millions of people.

Disgusting as it may be, he's politicking and using the bully pulpit.


Democrats, meanwhile, honor a ruthless rear end in a top hat who wants to kill thousands of Americans.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:



free advice to democrats: people's existing jobs can be made to be better

Sarah Jaffe had a big, good article recently about organizing the retail workforce.

America’s Massive Retail Workforce Is Tired of Being Ignored: Long absent from discussions about employment, workers from Walmart to Bloomingdale’s are taking matters into their own hands.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/DemSocialists/status/889500434414669824

free advice to democrats: people's existing jobs can be made to be better

And then there's the billions of dollars in wage theft a year.


I have a good "free money" policy that the Dems should push to get people excited and lower the wealth gap.

Create and push for Commuter's Pay. Every single American worker who works more than 1 hour a day should get +1 hour pay per day for having to get ready/commute to work.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

I'd bet that these workers are also the same people who aren't voting.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

comedyblissoption posted:

what a lazy and uninspired troll

but this is a good reminder that when people complain about democratic party idpol, they are complaining about this:

there's nothing really wrong with that except for the fact that it came from one of the worst public speakers in the Democratic Party

the core message of "economic justice is important but we can't stop there - we need to protect civil rights as well" is Cool and Good. it's just that it came from Hillary Clinton, who as always phrased it in basically the worst way possible, and also added a bunch of caveats and maybes to the economic justice part because she's not a good enough liar to convince anyone she actually wants to break up the banks

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

I'd bet that these workers are also the same people who aren't voting.

who would they vote for? i don't recall any prominent candidates recently coming out in favor of better working conditions for bottom-of-barrel retail and fast food work. the Dems' preferred response to lovely low-wage work is to push education and training and pretend that literally everyone will just be able to class mobility themselves out of the lovely jobs

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

I'd bet that these workers are also the same people who aren't voting.

Not everyone lives a six figgie fucktard lifestyle bub

Anyway you should be out celebrating that your taxes will be lower once the ACA is repealed, go live it up

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

loquacius posted:

You're just going down the list of stereotypes to post with no further comment huh

Personally I'm like most voters in that I think my rep is good but everyone else's sucks rear end


hell yeah

i wish my rep was dead along with every other neolib in the world, i've voted against the fucker for a decade but he keeps winning anyway because of the fygm shitheads around here

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004


So are dems supposed to keep their plans super secret and then surprise people with it so theres no chance for an opposition?

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

I'd bet that these workers are also the same people who aren't voting.

Gee, I wonder why. I really wonder.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

I'd bet that these workers are also the same people who aren't voting.

because they cant afford a day off work you rich shitstain

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
*works hourly job for bad pay, can't afford to take off work or might be excluded from voting due to lovely voter repression tactics*

Dense, comfortable, nincompoop: Way to not vote :smuggo:

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/DemSocialists/status/889500434414669824

free advice to democrats: people's existing jobs can be made to be better

:yeah:

What people keep losing track of is that manufacturing and mining jobs etc were not fit to support a family on, until labor strikes happened and things changed

We keep discounting the retail sector as a permanent dead-end industry, but when you come down to it it's one of the only consistent employers of Americans there is left, and we really should be focusing on making those jobs worthy of being held. If your problem is that too many people are stuck working at Wal-Mart, you can either make them all go to night school to learn coding so that maybe just maybe they can tear out each other's throats competing for a Real Job, or alternately you can make Wal-Mart jobs better.

got any sevens posted:

i wish my rep was dead along with every other neolib in the world, i've voted against the fucker for a decade but he keeps winning anyway because of the fygm shitheads around here

I guess I should amend that to "my rep is fine", he's not a raging commie or anything but he's not a corporate shill either :shrug:

If someone came along to primary him who I liked better I'd vote for them, but I'm not exactly going around ringing doorbells to recruit someone to take him down

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Main Paineframe posted:


who would they vote for? i don't recall any prominent candidates recently coming out in favor of better working conditions for bottom-of-barrel retail and fast food work. the Dems' preferred response to lovely low-wage work is to push education and training and pretend that literally everyone will just be able to class mobility themselves out of the lovely jobs

yeah, they need to be engaged, and investment and tax breaks is not going to do it

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

I'd bet that these workers are also the same people who aren't voting.

And of course if they aren't willing to help themselves, it's your job to punish them for their lack of moral fiber.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

steinrokkan posted:

And of course if they aren't willing to help themselves, it's your job to punish them for their lack of moral fiber.

:thunk:

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
what's jimmy mcmillan up to these days

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Raskolnikov38 posted:

can't wait for the wet fart reveal on Monday

i'd like to say called it but it wasn't particularly difficult to predict

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

what's jimmy mcmillan up to these days

I was just thinking about him a few days ago

He was a funny meme man but when it comes down to it the things his catchphrases were about were important and needed to be said

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
I'm still waiting for Tom Perez to engage with me in a multifaceted way

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

There was some piece about how the Dem's have been treating campaigning like marketing, causing dipshits like mook. And it really is the case. They don't have much else to offer, so they try to make up the difference in marketing.

as someone whose degree is in marketing, that explains a lot. an organization that manufactures something is somewhat tangibly "locked in" by their choices in product, production methods, location of facilities, logistics, and other physical properties. so if you can't refine any of those traits, that's when you focus on branding and advertising, and you tailor it towards your targeted market.

but that's the problem: there is no outwardly-discernible target. The market they've tried to court doesn't exist (moderate republicans) and the larger, existing demographic that does (the personally disenfranchised), is flat-out ignored. as a thought exercise: how the gently caress does tax credits for businesses to train employees convince the average disaffect to give a poo poo?

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

loquacius posted:

I was just thinking about him a few days ago

He was a funny meme man but when it comes down to it the things his catchphrases were about were important and needed to be said

what's reverend wright up to these days

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


hello suck zone how are you today

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
we also probably have a retirement crisis coming up in the next decade that no one is talking about

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

we also probably have a retirement crisis coming up in the next decade that no one is talking about

soylent green

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
NYC Mayor Signs On-Call Scheduling Ban

quote:

NEW YORK, NY – Today, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio signed Intro 1387 into law, just days after the New York City Council passed the legislation that bans on-call scheduling for retail workers. This crucial legislation finally ends the abhorrent practice of on-call scheduling – a system of scheduling that disrupts workers’ lives and their families’ lives by requiring them to be available to work even when they are not scheduled to work, and with no guarantee of an actual work shift.

“At a time when what’s happening in America should dismay us, New York City is shining a light on a different vision of who we are and what we can be. New Yorkers should be proud. 1 in 9 New Yorkers is a retail worker they are among the lowest wage earners in our city, they struggle to survive on often part-time work, barely making ends meet. We have showed that together we can end abusive scheduling practices."

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

free advice to democrats: people's existing jobs can be made to be better

ya by automating them :laugh:

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

we also probably have a retirement crisis coming up in the next decade that no one is talking about

isn't it something like 50% of all seniors have no savings outside of social security, let alone enough to even retire on?

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


GalacticAcid posted:

NYC Mayor Signs On-Call Scheduling Ban



this would've been nice when i was working food service. my managers were always stacking more hours onto my shift. once went in for a 4 hour shift just to be pushed into a 14 hour shift

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Lastgirl posted:

ya by automating them :laugh:

fully. automated. luxury. mcdonalds.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

isn't it something like 50% of all seniors have no savings outside of social security, let alone enough to even retire on?

Sounds like they shouldn't have voted away all our money so we could take care of them

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

as someone whose degree is in marketing, that explains a lot. an organization that manufactures something is somewhat tangibly "locked in" by their choices in product, production methods, location of facilities, logistics, and other physical properties. so if you can't refine any of those traits, that's when you focus on branding and advertising, and you tailor it towards your targeted market.

but that's the problem: there is no outwardly-discernible target. The market they've tried to court doesn't exist (moderate republicans) and the larger, existing demographic that does (the personally disenfranchised), is flat-out ignored. as a thought exercise: how the gently caress does tax credits for businesses to train employees convince the average disaffect to give a poo poo?

and never mind that we're talking about the democratic national committee: an organization made up entirely of people who have used the phrase "i'm really just an ideas guy/gal/person" -- ideas are emphemeral. there are no physical binds to consider when tailoring your pitch, so if the ideas suck, fuckin' dump 'em! This warmed-over bullshit is toxic and yet they keep dusting it off and poppin' it back into the microwave thinking this time the voters are really gonna scarf it down because they put it on a nicer plate and added a sprig of plastic parsley.

Gene Hackman Fan has issued a correction as of 17:15 on Jul 25, 2017

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

isn't it something like 50% of all seniors have no savings outside of social security, let alone enough to even retire on?

Why save when you can sell your Levitt house that hasn't been updated in 25 years to someone for half a mil?

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Matt Zerella posted:

Why save when you can sell your Levitt house that hasn't been updated in 25 years to someone for half a mil?

it's going to be amazing when we have both a housing crisis and people unable to sell their homes because nobody has any money to buy them

i mean more so than we already do

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Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Al! posted:

it's going to be amazing when we have both a housing crisis and people unable to sell their homes because nobody has any money to buy them

i mean more so than we already do

so much money invested into building houses by the rich

no spending power~ by the poor

:tif:

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