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Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Drunk Tomato posted:

Meanwhile watching people jump off the WTC, even set to Benny Hill music, is not funny past age 13 because you know that each one of those people had a life, family, dreams, aspirations, etc.

I don't know man. Tribute.wmv still holds up.

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tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos
I can't wait until there are laws in place that allow these morally bankrupt teens to be punished for loving around in class on a blowoff day instead of paying Tom Hanks the respect he deserves for the sacrifices he made when he stormed that beach back in 1944.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Anything good coming to the Flix in August?

I spent a full hour browsing last night and couldn't find anything I felt compelled to watch. :geno:

e: those fuckers took 30 for 30: June 17 1994 off streaming :argh:

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/873233-netflix-august-2017-movie-and-tv-titles-announced

Giving it a quick glance:

Addams Family
Matrix trilogy
Jackie Brown
Inner Space

Wet Hot American Summer Ten Years Later
Marvel's The Defenders

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

precision posted:

Anything good coming to the Flix in August?

I spent a full hour browsing last night and couldn't find anything I felt compelled to watch. :geno:

e: those fuckers took 30 for 30: June 17 1994 off streaming :argh:

What do you like

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
Is there anywhere I can watch Night of the Comet online, legally? I'm willing to pay a one-time fee but I would prefer not to sign up for a subscription service; I already have Netflix.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Matrix Trilogy is already on Prime, I rewatched those last week.


A MIRACLE posted:

What do you like

Today I am in the mood for something like Crows Zero, but I think I've watched all the good Japanese crime movies on there :(

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Is there anywhere I can watch Night of the Comet online, legally? I'm willing to pay a one-time fee but I would prefer not to sign up for a subscription service; I already have Netflix.

It's available for $6 on Amazon streaming.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Basebf555 posted:

It's available for $6 on Amazon streaming.

Awesome, thanks.

tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos
Lucha underground is really good and you should watch it if you've ever wanted to get into watching wrestling or just finished up with GLOW and want more wrestling content.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

tweet my meat posted:

Lucha underground is really good and you should watch it if you've ever wanted to get into watching wrestling or just finished up with GLOW and want more wrestling content.

Oh poo poo I keep forgetting to watch that, thank you!

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



Drunk Tomato posted:

Fake movie violence can be funny, since you know no one was actually hurt or killed. You can kind of smile in that shocked way, or go ewwwww, but it's just a movie. And you can appreciate the work that effects people did, especially if it elicited an honest reaction out of you.

Meanwhile watching people jump off the WTC, even set to Benny Hill music, is not funny past age 13 because you know that each one of those people had a life, family, dreams, aspirations, etc.

When I was in HS in the early 2000s, we had those edgelord types. One trip was to a different HS whose drama club was putting on a production of the Anne Frank play. Other students snickering about the poor acting and such was one thing, but after the play there was a talk from a Holocaust survivor that had survived over two years in Treblinka and lost his entire family there. Students were making fun of him (not to his face/loud enough that he could hear it), for things like the fact he started crying during his story at points, like discussing how he was separated from his mother and siblings upon arrival and that being the last time he ever saw them.

Similar thing happened when I took an elective on Vietnam. Making fun of things from We Were Soldiers and Hamburger Hill, sure whatever. There's startlingly abrupt/almost too absurd, but it's a dramatization. Mocking actual Vietnam vets after they gave a talk in our class, that's hosed.

And on the 'edgelord' front, I watched that Red Pill doc on Prime. It was interesting but also 'ehhhh'. It felt like there could have been more research into claims/independent verification of the stats being tossed out. It also felt like there was a huge whiff on the topic, since the doc maker brings up at the end that there are MRAs, MGTOWs, and Red Pillers, but doesn't really go in depth beyond 'they have different views'. And good lord, the one interviewee with the missing teeth, stained shirts, vape pen (and what seems like a severe anxiety issue). It also felt like a missed opportunity that even though they constantly spouted stats about homelessness/suicide/etc. I don't think 'well guys are viewed as weak/pussies for seeking mental health help' was really mentioned as a possible contributing factor.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

Jose Oquendo posted:

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/873233-netflix-august-2017-movie-and-tv-titles-announced

Giving it a quick glance:

Addams Family
Matrix trilogy
Jackie Brown
Inner Space

Wet Hot American Summer Ten Years Later
Marvel's The Defenders
Funny Games US!!
My favorite film to show people while watching them watch it

I remember watching that in theaters with an old white demo that was clearly more expecting Garden State/Chocolat type faire & the remote control scene was just gold to witness

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

Sir Kodiak posted:

Yeah, I saw Apocalypto for the first time this past weekend and it's incredible.

The first time I saw Apocalypto, I was on mushrooms. No idea if it holds up but man that was a memorable experience.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

Basebf555 posted:

It's absurd, it's guys running headlong into wave after wave of machine guns, it's patently ridiculous(and heroic, and one of the most important moments in world history, etc.). Those "jokes" are there to demonstrate the absurdity and complete randomness of war. It's not funny, but they're structured like jokes because there is a joke going on, and the joke is on humanity.

So immature high schoolers laugh at it because they think they're the only ones who get the joke, because they're so "edgy" or whatever. Really though, we all get the joke but once you have enough life experience you realize that Death could play the same joke on you at any time, and that's not so easy to laugh at. Tragedy is when I stub my toe, comedy is when you fall off a cliff, etc.

Ya exactly, there's that gag in Journey to The End of The Night but which I only rly got on a real level when I saw it repeated in The Americanization of Emily where it's just like, they're shooting at me and u want me to go towards them?

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Jose Oquendo posted:

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/873233-netflix-august-2017-movie-and-tv-titles-announced

Giving it a quick glance:


:siren:Inner Space:siren:
:siren:Inner Space:siren:
:siren:Inner Space:siren:
:siren:Inner Space:siren:
:siren:Inner Space:siren:

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

married but discreet posted:

Laughter is a pretty normal coping mechanism when subjected to horrible scenes of (cinematic) violence. Depending on the person, there is a treshold where it turns into genuine humour.

vv this too
I cannot help but burst into laughter when I watch gore-horror flicks a la Saw, etc. I have some body-horror issues around surgeries and stuff and I definitely have to just burst into laughter or run from the room covering my eyes trying to unsee. I also just flat-out laugh at ridiculous scenes that don't bother me, but I laugh at both. Or I stop watching.. But it's better (to me) to watch something awful on TV and laugh than hear some friend or family member recount some awful injury and the series of reconstructive surgeries they went through - I literally have to leave the room if someone won't stop telling stories about having their appendix removed, bone fractures that break through the skin, bad infections, etc..

Also as was mentioned when I was an adolescent I had sort of, well not atrophied, but undeveloped empathic senses, so I probably would've laughed then as well, but because I was a kid being an rear end in a top hat rather than an adult coping with something profoundly uncomfortable.

Recently-ish I recall watching some movie where a main character was just ganked out of nowhere with no foreshadowing or warning that I noticed, and it upset me enough that I laughed as well. Even though I liked the character and was unhappy they were gone, it's just a knee-jerk pressure-release valve sort of, for something sufficiently shocking to me.

coyo7e fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jul 25, 2017

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


MeatwadIsGod posted:

The first time I saw Apocalypto, I was on mushrooms. No idea if it holds up but man that was a memorable experience.

The sequence in the city must have been wild. It's borderline hallucinogenic watched straight.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Sir Kodiak posted:

The sequence in the city must have been wild. It's borderline hallucinogenic watched straight.

Yeah that's the high point of the movie definitely, pretty unlike anything I've ever seen on film.

isaboo
Nov 11, 2002

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MeatwadIsGod posted:

The first time I saw Apocalypto, I was on mushrooms. No idea if it holds up but man that was a memorable experience.

Absolutely perfect username/avatar/post combo

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

Sir Kodiak posted:

The sequence in the city must have been wild. It's borderline hallucinogenic watched straight.

From what I can remember, the scene where Jaguar Paw's tribe is enslaved was intense. And while Apocalypto has beats that you've seen a dozen times whether it's "The Most Dangerous Game" or Deliverance, it's really damned satisfying.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
I watched Apocalypto with a friend who's an anthropology major; he spent the whole movie complaining about Mel Gibson getting the historical details of mesoamerican culture wrong, and I still enjoyed the movie. So it's good enough to overcome that handicap, at minimum. :v:

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
I thought the whole problem was that he had just recently been recorded and reported on another racist rant. So him making a movie about brown people who mostly dont speak, was seen as tres gauche.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

coyo7e posted:

I thought the whole problem was that he had just recently been recorded and reported on another racist rant. So him making a movie about brown people who mostly dont speak, was seen as tres gauche.

I don't remember the specific timing of his various rants, but once Passion of the Christ came out, with all the marketing around it, the general public basically knew that Gibson was a racist or at least just antisemitic. The drunken rants more exposed him as a hypocrite than anything else, the racism was not really a surprise to anyone who paid close attention to the release of Passion of the Christ.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Death Spa on Amazon Prime is a fun, unusually really good-looking 80s horror flick. It's got the kind of aesthetic that you now think of when you think 80s, lots of neon and bright colors and poo poo, and somehow it manages to make that work and be suitably lurid for a goofy horror-comedy. Merritt Buttrick, who played Kirk's son in the Star Trek movies, is a creepy gay computer programmer, there's the requisite nudity and gore, Ken Foree also has a fun role. Sometimes the pacing is a little off and the gore sequences are really wedged in (and sometimes awkwardly shot), but overall it's good.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

Punkin Spunkin posted:

Funny Games US!!
My favorite film to show people while watching them watch it

I remember watching that in theaters with an old white demo that was clearly more expecting Garden State/Chocolat type faire & the remote control scene was just gold to witness

Given that the audience is effectively the main antagonist of the film, it's amusing to see the reactions of viewers as they realize what's happening (or don't, which is also funny) and the "well, I get the point, but I'm not one of those people who likes torture porn, so Haneke can gently caress off" kinds of reviews by critics.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Hubbardologist posted:

Given that the audience is effectively the main antagonist of the film, it's amusing to see the reactions of viewers as they realize what's happening (or don't, which is also funny) and the "well, I get the point, but I'm not one of those people who likes torture porn, so Haneke can gently caress off" kinds of reviews by critics.

I'm glad I read some reviews first. It sounds like a complete waste of time.

"You (the lab rat) are placed in a Skinner box (the movie theater) and subjected to random negative stimuli (filmed violence, as a substitute for painful electrical jolts). Haneke, whose academic background is in psychology, philosophy and theater, assumes the role of empirical taskmaster. He hypothesizes that his box will shock you into a knee-jerk ethical dilemma. To pass the test, you must reject the false premise of the experiment itself (if only on the grounds of insufferable smugness) and walk out.

An even better response, theoretically, would be to storm the booth and rip the film out of the projector, thus symbolically declaring your refusal to swallow the force-fed medicinal doses of synthesized abuse the film is administering. And if you really wanted to ace the challenge, you would just not see the movie."

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

Yeah, I mean, in retrospect his approach is a bit Psych 101, and the film is definitely more of an interesting meta-analysis of the culture of violence than it is a film for people to enjoy viewing, but come on, it's a shot-for-shot remake of his own 1997 Austrian film, specifically aimed to be more easily watched by an American audience, at a time when torture porn was massively in vogue. That alone should clue the viewer in that there's something fucky about this.

It's been a spell since I've watched it, and the flurry of over-the-top violence for violence's sake in films has kind of subsided, but if you go in knowing the point and the types of films it's mocking, there is a lot to appreciate. And the cast does a good job. So I wouldn't quite relegate it to the dustbin for its faults.

Drunk Tomato
Apr 23, 2010

If God wanted us sober,
He'd knock the glass over.

Indolent Bastard posted:

I'm glad I read some reviews first. It sounds like a complete waste of time.

"You (the lab rat) are placed in a Skinner box (the movie theater) and subjected to random negative stimuli (filmed violence, as a substitute for painful electrical jolts). Haneke, whose academic background is in psychology, philosophy and theater, assumes the role of empirical taskmaster. He hypothesizes that his box will shock you into a knee-jerk ethical dilemma. To pass the test, you must reject the false premise of the experiment itself (if only on the grounds of insufferable smugness) and walk out.

Hubbardologist posted:

Given that the audience is effectively the main antagonist of the film, it's amusing to see the reactions of viewers as they realize what's happening (or don't, which is also funny) and the "well, I get the point, but I'm not one of those people who likes torture porn, so Haneke can gently caress off" kinds of reviews by critics.



Only, in film form

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
The thing that's always so funny about Haneke is that people act like he hasn't made anything other than Funny Games and FUNNY GAMES U.S. Watch literally any other Haneke film, Benny's Video, The Seventh Continent, White Ribbon, whatever, and you will get the exact same critique expressed in different ways. Nothing wrong with a motif.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

The thing that's always so funny about Haneke is that people act like he hasn't made anything other than Funny Games and FUNNY GAMES U.S. Watch literally any other Haneke film, Benny's Video, The Seventh Continent, White Ribbon, whatever, and you will get the exact same critique expressed in different ways. Nothing wrong with a motif.

Oh, I get it now, it's not all horrible unentertaining dreck. It's "art" with a "message".

Thanks for clarifying.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Indolent Bastard posted:

Oh, I get it now, it's not all horrible unentertaining dreck. It's "art" with a "message".

Thanks for clarifying.

Glad to be of help!

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Glad to be of help!

You were. It's just not my cup of tea. I know a friend that will love them all to bits, but I really don't care for this type of cinema.

Fun fact, different people can and do like different things. <--(That isn't intended as a snotty aside, though in re-reading it, it kind of sounds like one).

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to convince you that it was worth your time necessarily. Watch the things that you want to watch!

To get back to recommendations, I've been listening to the 30 for 30 Podcast series that just came out (which was very very good and should be checked out - "Yankees Suck" is probably my favorite), and I've watched most of the available 30 for 30 stuff on Netflix. Any recommendations for offbeat sports documentaries?

Gann Jerrod
Sep 9, 2005

A gun isn't a gun unless it shoots Magic.

Hubbardologist posted:

Yeah, I wasn't trying to convince you that it was worth your time necessarily. Watch the things that you want to watch!

To get back to recommendations, I've been listening to the 30 for 30 Podcast series that just came out (which was very very good and should be checked out - "Yankees Suck" is probably my favorite), and I've watched most of the available 30 for 30 stuff on Netflix. Any recommendations for offbeat sports documentaries?

The Battered Bastards of Baseball on Netflix was pretty good.

Drunk Tomato
Apr 23, 2010

If God wanted us sober,
He'd knock the glass over.

Hubbardologist posted:

Yeah, I wasn't trying to convince you that it was worth your time necessarily. Watch the things that you want to watch!

To get back to recommendations, I've been listening to the 30 for 30 Podcast series that just came out (which was very very good and should be checked out - "Yankees Suck" is probably my favorite), and I've watched most of the available 30 for 30 stuff on Netflix. Any recommendations for offbeat sports documentaries?

Battered Bastards of Baseball is a pretty fun look at a crazy minor league team and it's manager, Kurt Russell's dad

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

Indolent Bastard posted:

Oh, I get it now, it's not all horrible unentertaining dreck. It's "art" with a "message".

No, it's a gimmick film. It's literally no different from The Tingler, or Scream, or any other horror film that deals meta-textually with the spectatorship of horror (which is actually most horror films, when you really get down to it).

What Hundu is saying is that when people are talking about Funny Games being this giant, vacuous, condescending endurance experiment, they are not actually talking about the film, or even any films.

Parachute
May 18, 2003
here's me talking about the film: it was boring as poo poo and the biggest scare i got was the jump scare naked city song out of nowhere when the title flashes

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

my Funny Games review: it was okay, John Zorn rules.

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lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

we have such posts
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Hm, yes, Funny Games is blood

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