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Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


Poetic Justice posted:

Looks like they are going to be adding linking to outside apps natively this newest patch:

https://forums.oculus.com/community/discussion/55356/third-party-apps-and-rift-1-17-update/

Neat, this not only works with individual apps, steamVR apps, but also just steamVR itself. No need to use the weird sideloading anymore I guess?

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Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?
If there's any Soundboxing buddies still lurking around in this thread, I'd be eternally grateful if someone could make a beatmap for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyuY0GWqVKE

Also I've finally found a Medium project I'm excited to work on after a few false starts. It won't be anything crazy good but I'm having a lot of fun experimenting, I'll post the results when I'm done sometime.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Tom Guycot posted:

Neat, this not only works with individual apps, steamVR apps, but also just steamVR itself. No need to use the weird sideloading anymore I guess?

I couldn't get steam vr to show up in there as an app but all of my vr games in steam are working fine. Flyinside FSX doesn't but I'm pretty sure that has something to do with needing admin privileges.

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug
Oh man, how can I buy that faux leather replacement that on the rifts in the new pack? I hate the lovely foam. I know the surround just pops off, I clean it fairly often and the glue holding the foam to the plastic is coming undone.

Bhodi fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jul 26, 2017

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


Songbearer posted:

Also I've finally found a Medium project I'm excited to work on after a few false starts. It won't be anything crazy good but I'm having a lot of fun experimenting, I'll post the results when I'm done sometime.

Interested to see. Medium is still one of the most interesting applications of VR I've seen, and the latest update added so much meaty new features.


edit:

Bhodi posted:

Oh man, how can I buy that faux leather replacement that they are replacing on the rifts in the new pack? I hate the lovely foam.

Well, oculus released the CAD files for the "facial interface" so some places have made 3rd party ones. However I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them sold officially as replacements, along with the replacement cords, ear buds, remotes, etc they already sell, when the new bundle starts coming out.

edit 2:

GutBomb posted:

I couldn't get steam vr to show up in there as an app but all of my vr games in steam are working fine. Flyinside FSX doesn't but I'm pretty sure that has something to do with needing admin privileges.


I just went to the folder and manually launched the "vrstartup.exe' in the steamapps/common/openvr/bin/win64 folder, and it added it right away.

Tom Guycot fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Jul 26, 2017

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

Bhodi posted:

Oh man, how can I buy that faux leather replacement that on the rifts in the new pack? I hate the lovely foam. I know the surround just pops off, I clean it fairly often and the glue holding the foam to the plastic is coming undone.

Just get a vrcover off Amazon, it's probably better too

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene
I've got a google daydream coming and I'm really excited. Are there any killer apps for it?

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Gay Horney posted:

I've got a google daydream coming and I'm really excited. Are there any killer apps for it?

Watching videos on planes

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Lemming posted:

Watching porn videos on planes

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

TEAM NVIDIA:
FORUM POLICE
Consider the following: Tilt Brush Pictionary

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Paul MaudDib posted:

Consider the following: Tilt Brush Pictionary

It's already all over youtube and also Jimmy Fallon already did it.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
So these Cable Matters USB 3.0 passive extension cables I got don't reliably provide 3.0 connectivity to these Rift sensors. Which cables should I get? I got these because they were about 10ft/3m, and I can't really go shorter.

e: Would using an active cable like this introduce any issues?

PerrineClostermann fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Jul 26, 2017

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


PerrineClostermann posted:

So these Cable Matters USB 3.0 passive extension cables I got don't reliably provide 3.0 connectivity to these Rift sensors. Which cables should I get? I got these because they were about 10ft/3m, and I can't really go shorter.

e: Would using an active cable like this introduce any issues?

Yeah, sorry they have to be active cables if you're going a long distance. This is the cable I used so I can guarantee it works (monoprice is also the same brand as the active extension cable they give you with a 3rd sensor). I've also seen a lot of people use the same one you linked so I don't see any problem with it. I've even seen a 10m cable matters active 3.0 cable listed as working for folks.


EDIT:

This might be useful. Its a list of various extension cables people have tried out and confirmed work fine.

Tom Guycot fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Jul 26, 2017

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos

Lemming posted:

Watching videos on planes

As long as it's a 15 minute long video or so though because that poo poo overheats rapidly.

Seriously I've used my Daydream maybe 5 times. Maybe I've missed out on some killer game or app but really the most impressive thing about the whole experience is the daydream home portal thing. That poo poo is slick.

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

PerrineClostermann posted:

So these Cable Matters USB 3.0 passive extension cables I got don't reliably provide 3.0 connectivity to these Rift sensors. Which cables should I get? I got these because they were about 10ft/3m, and I can't really go shorter.

e: Would using an active cable like this introduce any issues?
You might have just got some bad cables, I use the same 3m/10ft Cable Matters cables with my headset and one of the cameras and they work just fine.

I'll second the recommendation of picking up Monoprice active cables if you're having trouble, though.

w00tazn
Dec 25, 2004
I don't say w00t in real life

Poetic Justice posted:

Looks like they are going to be adding linking to outside apps natively this newest patch:

https://forums.oculus.com/community/discussion/55356/third-party-apps-and-rift-1-17-update/

How does the 3rd party apps show up? Just part of the Library? Subfolder?

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005

w00tazn posted:

How does the 3rd party apps show up? Just part of the Library? Subfolder?

I can't say for sure since I don't run the public test channel, but from reading it just shows up as part of your library.

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

rage-saq posted:

Just get a vrcover off Amazon, it's probably better too

People were complaining on reddit or something that VRcovers are poor quality. These are supposed to be better - https://widmovr.com/product/oculus-rift-cover/

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

The Bigscreen cinema update is here and it's a pretty great movie theater environment. Way better way to watch movies/tv shows than the smaller home theater environments they had before. Love that there are fake AI heads in the theater that look around at the screen, too.

kaffo
Jun 20, 2017

If it's broken, it's probably my fault

JazzFlight posted:

The Bigscreen cinema update is here and it's a pretty great movie theater environment. Way better way to watch movies/tv shows than the smaller home theater environments they had before. Love that there are fake AI heads in the theater that look around at the screen, too.

I'm pretty hype to give it a go, get some movie nights in with friends who live at the other end of the country.

Just gotta find the time :stare:

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I set up a streaming site with embedded player for this sort of thing, but the moment everyone else gets VR...

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

alphabettitouretti posted:

People were complaining on reddit or something that VRcovers are poor quality. These are supposed to be better - https://widmovr.com/product/oculus-rift-cover/

Should have linked this earlier.
https://vrcover.com/product/oculus-rift-facial-interface-foam-replacement-basic-set/
The good part is the interface + thin padding, I dont use the big cover that goes over it.

Question Time
Sep 12, 2010



emanresu tnuocca posted:

As long as it's a 15 minute long video or so though because that poo poo overheats rapidly.

Seriously I've used my Daydream maybe 5 times. Maybe I've missed out on some killer game or app but really the most impressive thing about the whole experience is the daydream home portal thing. That poo poo is slick.

I seriously regret getting my Daydream. My 2-year old gear VR was just as good before it stopped working, except Daydream overheats much, much faster. It's basically just a useless scam.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
My daydream didn't overheat while watching all of Moana in a virtual cinema :shrug:

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

rage-saq posted:

Should have linked this earlier.
https://vrcover.com/product/oculus-rift-facial-interface-foam-replacement-basic-set/
The good part is the interface + thin padding, I dont use the big cover that goes over it.

Anyone got any of these? I'm gonna have to get something because the bundled foam pad is a bit crap.

I need some kind of protective cover or storage for the HMD as well, it's hazardous to leave it out with cats jumping all over the place and knocking poo poo over.

Question Time
Sep 12, 2010



PerrineClostermann posted:

My daydream didn't overheat while watching all of Moana in a virtual cinema :shrug:

Maybe it works better with other phones, or my pixel XL is just defective?

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I should be clear. My Pixel XL got pretty hot in its case, but it didn't overheat.

Surprise Giraffe
Apr 30, 2007
1 Lunar Road
Moon crater
The Moon

rage-saq posted:

Should have linked this earlier.
https://vrcover.com/product/oculus-rift-facial-interface-foam-replacement-basic-set/
The good part is the interface + thin padding, I dont use the big cover that goes over it.

These are cool but wont give you the sort of fov improvement you apparently get from thinner Vive interfaces

FormatAmerica
Jun 3, 2005
Grimey Drawer

rage-saq posted:

Should have linked this earlier.
https://vrcover.com/product/oculus-rift-facial-interface-foam-replacement-basic-set/
The good part is the interface + thin padding, I dont use the big cover that goes over it.

I have this but the deluxe one with the velour pads and it's good. The pads Velcro to the plastic piece so needs occasional replacement after taking the headset on and off a bunch but plenty comfortable.

The only thing I'll say is it's not a perfect match for the rift, creaks just a little bit but not in any way that happens repeatedly during use.

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

FormatAmerica posted:

I have this but the deluxe one with the velour pads and it's good. The pads Velcro to the plastic piece so needs occasional replacement after taking the headset on and off a bunch but plenty comfortable.

The only thing I'll say is it's not a perfect match for the rift, creaks just a little bit but not in any way that happens repeatedly during use.

I don't notice my standard interface + thin foam replacement creaking and I've had mine for about 4 months now. The plastic isn't quite the same density/material as the stock but it's not really a problem.

Also, the thin foam does give you a little bit higher FOV.

Fight! For your kite!
Jul 29, 2008
As a new Rift owner should I feel comfortable buying from the Occulus store given the current sales or should I wait and buy the games from Steam?

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

Fight! For your kite! posted:

As a new Rift owner should I feel comfortable buying from the Occulus store given the current sales or should I wait and buy the games from Steam?
Well, any exclusive game or app (anything that says that Oculus had a part in making the game) is only available on the Oculus Store, so definitely feel alright buying that stuff.

As for games that are on both, I'd check their Steam forums to see if your Steam friends list is what's used for multiplayer. I don't have any friends on Oculus, so that would suck if I bought one that doesn't support cross-play with all headset users. Also, I think I heard that Oculus doesn't keep your saves if you delete the game from your HDD, while Steam has Cloud Saves, so that's a definite plus in Steam's favor...

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug

Fight! For your kite! posted:

As a new Rift owner should I feel comfortable buying from the Occulus store given the current sales or should I wait and buy the games from Steam?
There's nothing on oculus that's currently a better deal than steam except for arizona sunshine. Their packs are bad and absolutely not worth the price.

Action pack is bad, you'll play fantastic contraption once and never load it up again, some people like wilson's heart but superhot is honestly the only game worth buying in that bundle
Supper pack is bad, I expect you to die is a fairly fun 4 hour experience, the climb is OK, but there's no reason to ever play raw data when you get robo recall for free, and sports bar vr is just dumb
Explore pack is bad, everest VR is just a movie, SPT is the same price and you can't get unspoken on steam.

I buy everything I can on steam, but honestly it doesn't matter that much because how much am I really going to be playing launch-quality games in the future? Already games like fantastic contraption and job simulator seem quaint & trite; development is moving very fast so it's unlikely I'll ever go back and replay any of the games I bought because there's going to be a ton of newer, better stuff that I can spend my time on.

Bhodi fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jul 26, 2017

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Fight! For your kite! posted:

As a new Rift owner should I feel comfortable buying from the Occulus store given the current sales or should I wait and buy the games from Steam?

I bought Elite: Dangerous on steam and it worked the first time but every subsequent launch it wouldn't work with the rift and insisted on using my monitor instead and HMD was not an available choice in the game settings. I exported my steam key and converted it to an oculus home key and re-downloaded it through the oculus store and it worked great. I think there is more Rift specific QC on apps bought in the oculus store and versions of things available there seem to match the version currently available on steam.

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005
You can buy from wherever you want and can feel comfortable buying from Oculus Home. I kind of like putting on my headset and having all my games listed in Home right there, since it pops up anytime I put on my headset, but if a game is MP focused and on Steam, they will likely use Steamworks servers for the MP matching which means you will have a larger playerbase if you get it on Steam, although more and more VR games are going crossplay now.

The downside of buying from Oculus Home is as of right now they only support the Rift so in the future if you get a new headset that doesn't work with Home, you might be out of luck playing any games from there on your new headset. That doesn't really bother me, because I don't plan on selling my Rift and honestly I don't see myself coming back to a lot if any of these VR games 2-3-4 years from now anyway.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I'm setting up a roomscale area in my unfinished murder basement. I have about a 128"-wide nook (technically the underside of the kitchen bumpout) that I'd like to put my Rift sensors in. It's about 9ft to the ceiling. I'd much rather not drill into the walls, as they're actually bare insulation (murder basement, remember?). What do you think my best options would be? I was thinking about getting a contractor pole to span the 128" distance from wall to wall, and use pressure against each wall to keep it firmly placed. Then I could use clamps to mount the sensors. Unfortunately, a pole long enough to do that is a little expensive (50 bucks on Amazon). I could also get two shorter poles and go from ceiling to wall, which saves about ten bucks. Any other ideas?

FormatAmerica
Jun 3, 2005
Grimey Drawer
It's been mentioned a bunch in the past few pages but adding a steamVR shortcut to home makes the experience essentially seamless.

I personally don't really care one way or the other - nice to have the occasional exclusive and good qc on the Oculus store, steam generally has better deals, faster update cycle and of course better community.

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

a glass case of emotion

Fallen Rib

Bhodi posted:

There's nothing on oculus that's currently a better deal than steam except for arizona sunshine. Their packs are bad and absolutely not worth the price.

Action pack is bad, you'll play fantastic contraption once and never load it up again, some people like wilson's heart but superhot is honestly the only game worth buying in that bundle
Supper pack is bad, I expect you to die is a fairly fun 4 hour experience, the climb is OK, but there's no reason to ever play raw data when you get robo recall for free, and sports bar vr is just dumb
Explore pack is bad, everest VR is just a movie, SPT is the same price and you can't get unspoken on steam.
I like Sports Bar VR, it's the best pool game I've seen (it's also the closest I've come to falling over in VR because I want to lean on the table so much), so I thought that pack was a decent deal. Agreed on the other ones.

wyoak fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jul 26, 2017

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

PerrineClostermann posted:

I'm setting up a roomscale area in my unfinished murder basement. I have about a 128"-wide nook (technically the underside of the kitchen bumpout) that I'd like to put my Rift sensors in. It's about 9ft to the ceiling. I'd much rather not drill into the walls, as they're actually bare insulation (murder basement, remember?). What do you think my best options would be? I was thinking about getting a contractor pole to span the 128" distance from wall to wall, and use pressure against each wall to keep it firmly placed. Then I could use clamps to mount the sensors. Unfortunately, a pole long enough to do that is a little expensive (50 bucks on Amazon). I could also get two shorter poles and go from ceiling to wall, which saves about ten bucks. Any other ideas?

The walls are unfinished so the 2x4s are there? You could try some sort of camera clamp. The Vive basestations and Rift cameras both use standard camera mount threads.

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PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Cojawfee posted:

The walls are unfinished so the 2x4s are there? You could try some sort of camera clamp. The Vive basestations and Rift cameras both use standard camera mount threads.

Yeah, but they're in from the edges of the nook by about a foot each, and the outer studs are doubled up. I'd need a clamp that can do 4" at minimum.

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