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I would stand up and clap if John McCain's brain cancer walked into the room. Come on little buddy! You can do it!
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Jul 26, 2017 05:22
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So a group of grass-roots organizations, including Our Revolution, have started to organize together and have put forward what they're calling The People's Platform:quote:If Democrats want to win in 2018 and beyond, we need to start by supporting legislation that addresses the real issues facing everyday Americans. Sign our petition to show your support for a legislative agenda that puts people first. We will be delivering your petitions to the Democratic National Committee on July 25th. Join us as we organize for a #PeoplesPlatform!
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Jul 26, 2017 05:25
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"The status quo isn't working." Now there's a slogan I can get behind.
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Jul 26, 2017 05:32
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slogans are overrated obama won 2008 with something stolen from bob the builder
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Jul 26, 2017 05:44
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To be fair, Bob had a good slogan and a catchy theme to go with it. I'd vote for Bob and his freakish living machine running mate.
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Jul 26, 2017 05:45
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Inescapable Duck posted:To be fair, Bob had a good slogan and a catchy theme to go with it. I'd vote for Bob and his freakish living machine running mate. turns out bob has been allowing the mob to use the foundations of his construction sites as dumping grounds
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Jul 26, 2017 05:48
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Mister Facetious posted:"The status quo isn't working." This but unironically. Don't know if you were being ironic or not.
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Jul 26, 2017 06:00
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NewForumSoftware posted:I don't know if I'd call McCain "genocidal" but the modern day GOP is about as monster as you can get. The policies they pursue literally kill tens of thousands of people a year. I don't really know what to tell you, your example about your coworker you don't really like is a bad comparison. The Republican Party is so awful we must do everything in our power to register opposition except vote for their opponents. Also Trump never used slaves labor because neoliberals.
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Jul 26, 2017 06:56
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NewForumSoftware posted:I would unironically be ok with Bernie Sanders being primaried by a more leftist dem But he endorsed a slave owner tho
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Jul 26, 2017 07:06
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Placeholder post to say something else about slave owners you guys so no one misses it.
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Jul 26, 2017 07:09
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Kokoro Wish posted:So a group of grass-roots organizations, including Our Revolution, have started to organize together and have put forward what they're calling The People's Platform: You'd think a party with billions of invested money, warchests, and net worth would be better at not getting any and all thunder stolen from them by penniless leftists. Though I guess thats not hard when they manage to miss their own deadline for a new platform.
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Jul 26, 2017 08:28
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The biggest things that come to mind that are missing from that platform are 1.just flat-out increasing the amount of money people receive through welfare (in its various forms) and reverting the changes from the 90's and 2. something greatly increasing taxes (though maybe that's included as the funding source for some of those bills?). I would go as far as to say that the first of those is more important than stuff like free college, though obviously it's good as well.
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Jul 26, 2017 08:55
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yronic heroism posted:The Republican Party is so awful we must do everything in our power to register opposition except vote for their opponents. Democrats won’t change if they don’t have to. More endless war and lovely policies that cost nothing. More money for the DNC coffers. They’d hate to have to change.
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Jul 26, 2017 10:40
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yronic heroism posted:Also Trump never used slaves labor because neoliberals. Nah he's an honest person and will pay you top dime for your work* *Actually he didn't like the work so he's giving you 30% instead
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I dont think anyone denies Tromp Bad. Only that declaring the other side worse doesn't actually motivate voters.
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Jul 26, 2017 11:59
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Why don't you talk about Trump in this here Democrat thread?
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Jul 26, 2017 12:08
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yronic heroism posted:Placeholder post to say something else about slave owners you guys so no one misses it. Did you make the post about hillary and kamala harris being slave holders? you should if you haven't cause they're very bad for owning slaves like that Condiv fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Jul 26, 2017 |
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Jul 26, 2017 12:25
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yronic heroism posted:Both major parties are so awful 
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Jul 26, 2017 13:32
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Kokoro Wish posted:So a group of grass-roots organizations, including Our Revolution, have started to organize together and have put forward what they're calling The People's Platform: Can't even get pro-union legislation in the People's Platform.
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Jul 26, 2017 14:51
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poo poo Is hosed Up And Bullshit is way more effective than any of the focused grouped tripe coming out of the DNC
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Jul 26, 2017 14:59
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I'm as sick of West Wing civility worship as anyone, but the way you're going after WampaLord as its representative is ridiculous. He's not a Bad Dem, and there's real ones in this forum (and other places) you could turn your energy toward. We're going after him because #hepersists with his lovely opinions
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Jul 26, 2017 15:08
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yronic heroism posted:But he endorsed a slave owner tho Whoa a dumber take than my own, thanks for taking that bullet bro
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Jul 26, 2017 15:11
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Since a big part of this thread is immune to irony: the thread only talks about slaves when it's a convenient hobby horse. Of course if actual minorities were to come in and talk about their concerns let alone why they choose to vote rather than just whine on a podcast, suddenly a great mass of white dudes would have a lot of opinions about identity politics that they'd need to express.
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Jul 26, 2017 15:37
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yronic heroism posted:Since a big part of this thread is immune to irony: the thread only talks about slaves when it's a convenient hobby horse. Of course if actual minorities were to come in and talk about their concerns let alone why they choose to vote rather than just whine on a podcast, suddenly a great mass of white dudes would have a lot of opinions about identity politics that they'd need to express. Man that's a lot of words, you could have just said "I'm stupid". Just read the thread if you want your stupid point of view addressed like 5000 times already NewForumSoftware fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Jul 26, 2017 |
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Jul 26, 2017 15:41
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yronic heroism posted:Since a big part of this thread is immune to irony: the thread only talks about slaves when it's a convenient hobby horse. Of course if actual minorities were to come in and talk about their concerns let alone why they choose to vote rather than just whine on a podcast, suddenly a great mass of white dudes would have a lot of opinions about identity politics that they'd need to express. hi i'm an actual minority hillary clinton was (probably still is) a slaveowner and everyone who supported her and voted for her wants to put me back in chains
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Jul 26, 2017 15:49
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yronic heroism posted:Since a big part of this thread is immune to irony: the thread only talks about slaves when it's a convenient hobby horse. Of course if actual minorities were to come in and talk about their concerns let alone why they choose to vote rather than just whine on a podcast, suddenly a great mass of white dudes would have a lot of opinions about identity politics that they'd need to express. I mean, quite a few minority posters of every group has shown up in Condiv's threads, and in the Suck Zone, and nobody has been unwilling to talk to them about any issues they bring up. It's just that there's a divide between "here's my opinion on what black americans need done legislatively" and "even though we have video proof that he ceded the mic to BLM a Black website wrote he fought them, so we must believe that"* * A thing that genuinely happened ITT
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yronic heroism posted:Since a big part of this thread is immune to irony: the thread only talks about slaves when it's a convenient hobby horse. Of course if actual minorities were to come in and talk about their concerns let alone why they choose to vote rather than just whine on a podcast, suddenly a great mass of white dudes would have a lot of opinions about identity politics that they'd need to express. I'm in a minority group and I agree with this thread 100%.
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Jul 26, 2017 15:53
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Democrazy posted:Can't even get pro-union legislation in the People's Platform. Yeah, the first thing I said when I saw that was "wait, no card check?" And then I immediately forgot because apparently nobody cares about unions anymore.
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Jul 26, 2017 15:57
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temple posted:I'm in a minority group and I agree with this thread 100%. no you aren't. by agreeing with this thread or any leftist, you have automatically become a privileged white person. congratulations
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Jul 26, 2017 16:05
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Great Metal Jesus posted:This but unironically. Don't know if you were being ironic or not. It's certainly better than "I mean, have you seen the other guys?" It acknowledges a problem in need of fixing, and captures exactly what the populist segment of America believes.
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Jul 26, 2017 16:17
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NewForumSoftware posted:Donald Trump didn't own slaves This is what you literally believe. So you mostly only want to talk about slavery if you're tying it to Clinton and not as a real issue you care about. yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jul 26, 2017 |
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Jul 26, 2017 16:32
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yronic heroism posted:This is what you literally believe. So you mostly only want to talk about slavery if you're tying it to Clinton and not as a real issue you care about. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. How would you win elections and improve your country?
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Jul 26, 2017 16:40
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yronic heroism posted:This is what you literally believe. So you mostly only want to talk about slavery if you're tying it to Clinton and not as a real issue you care about. well, this is the thread for discussing democrats. i agree, talking about how slavery is enabled by capitalism, and capitalists like trump and hillary make use of slaves all the time is good. problem is that this thread is mainly for discussing the democratic party so trump being poo poo isn't really germane to the discussion unless he becomes a democrat or allies himself with democrats that being said, i'm glad you brought up slavery and capitalists, cause the sweatshops hillary sponsored in haiti with relief funds are hotbeds of slavery! Condiv fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jul 26, 2017 |
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Jul 26, 2017 16:46
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The problem with IDpol is that there are two nearly entirely alien versions of it. The first says, hey America is hosed up, racist, and bullshit and past solutions were hosed up, racist, and bullshit so we need to keep that in mind and have people who are impacted by said hosed-up-ness to have power and agency in the process of a better solution so we don't do that again. The other says that, well I personally benefit from the world as is, and past changes have been racist, so the only solution is to let the current hosed up, racist, and bullshit capitalist system continue to grind vast swaths of humanity under its treads until civilization as we know ends in ecological collapse. Oh and also if you disagree with me and claim to be a minority, I'm blocking you.
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Jul 26, 2017 16:51
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Social Justice without Economic Justice is the current liberal iteration of IDPOL and it's hilariously terrible but they look very polite saying the things they say.
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Jul 26, 2017 16:53
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Condiv is ignoring that NFS goes out of his way to declare that Trump definitely didn't own slaves and that any issues were just "labor disputes." Then brings up slaves as an issue he supposedly cares about every day. its an example of the thread lacking credibility.
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Jul 26, 2017 16:55
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yronic heroism posted:Condiv is ignoring that NFS goes out of his way to declare that Trump definitely didn't own slaves and that any issues were just "labor disputes." Then brings up slaves as an issue he supposedly cares about every day. its an example of the thread lacking credibility. why should i have to answer for NFS' arguments wrt to trump? my post makes it fairly clear that i think trump does own slaves, as does every capitalist. in any case, you brought up the slave issue entirely unprompted, so i'm not sure why you're whining that the thread is discussing it again? Condiv fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jul 26, 2017 |
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Jul 26, 2017 17:03
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Matt Zerella posted:Social Justice without Economic Justice is the current liberal iteration of IDPOL and it's hilariously terrible but they look very polite saying the things they say. I don't know if I'd even give them credit for social justice, given actually addressing such issues (particularly in regards to rectifying the impact of racism) would inevitably require significant government spending, which is basically out of the question for liberals. Liberals are (sometimes, if you're lucky enough to not go to prison or something) good about ending/fixing laws that are explicitly racist, but they're terrible at actually doing anything to offset the effects of systemic racism. As much as liberals like to (rightfully) bag on Sanders for his answer to that reparations question, they sure as hell aren't offering any sort of reparations themselves either. yronic heroism posted:Condiv is ignoring that NFS goes out of his way to declare that Trump definitely didn't own slaves and that any issues were just "labor disputes." Then brings up slaves as an issue he supposedly cares about every day. its an example of the thread lacking credibility. NFS was being stupid, Trump is obviously worse than Hillary when it comes to race and is responsible for more exploitation of minorities than she is due to his businesses.
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C. Everett Koop posted:hi i'm an actual minority I doubt Bernie really wanted to put you back in chains
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