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Willo567 posted:Just to be clear, people thought he was talking about striking North Korea because of his first tweet, right? We're worrying now because the Pentagon found the likelihood of Trump ordering military action over Twitter to be actually worth consideration.
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mango sentinel posted:There's no legal oversight on the President's authority wrt to nukes. There are multiple human steps where people could potentially defy him. The odds of Trump remembering the briefing he got 6 months ago about how to initiate a nuclear strike are very low. Unless he has some of his crazier staff members around to help guide him through the probably very simple procedures, the adults in the room can drag their feet long enough for him to see something that infuriates him on TV and he'll be too busy tweeting to worry about nukes.
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Thaddius the Large posted:Attack Japan getting 20% will never not be funny as hell I love that they have the exact same obsession with bubble fonts and color absolutely everywhere on their TV graphics that Japanese TV does. They have a lot more in common than they think culture wise and I'm not just talking about the obession with teen idol clone groups. At least no side has tried to invade the other in a few generations now.
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FizFashizzle posted:my favorite poll That 20% who want to attack Japan are amazing. Playing the long game on their WWII revenge.
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The Nuclear Secrecy blog has, among other cool stuff, articles that go into the US chain of command about nuclear weapons. Recommended reading.
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Kale posted:I love that they have the exact same obsession with bubble fonts and color absolutely everywhere on their TV graphics that Japanese TV does. They have a lot more in common than they think culture wise and I'm not just talking about the obession with teen idol clone groups. That IS a Japanese TV show. smh when peeps can't distinguish east asian text
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Kale posted:I love that they have the exact same obsession with bubble fonts and color absolutely everywhere on their TV graphics that Japanese TV does. They have a lot more in common than they think culture wise and I'm not just talking about the obession with teen idol clone groups. uh this graphic is from a japanese tv show reporting on a survey with korean respondents
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Hobo Clown posted:Is there a threshold Trump could cross to where when he orders a nuclear strike the military holds off and waits for someone else to confirm it first? When Nixon was looking down the barrel of impeachment and drinking heavily his SecDef quietly spread the word to ignore any launch orders from Nixon. One can only hope Mattis has has some similar private conversations.
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axeil posted:That 20% who want to attack Japan are amazing. Playing the long game on their WWII revenge. Korean/Japanese beef stretches back like two millennia worth of conflict. WWII is just another drop in the ocean.
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Willo567 posted:Just to be clear, people thought he was talking about striking North Korea because of his first tweet, right? It's not so much as a nuke issue. It's a there was a nine minute delay between tweets where no one in the military knew what the gently caress was happening. That part two could have easily been "we're declaring war on Mexico for its very bad and sad refusal to pay for the border wall"
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"Stop asking questions about the transgender tweets! Don't make me have to turn this briefing around!"
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Rappaport posted:The Nuclear Secrecy blog has, among other cool stuff, articles that go into the US chain of command about nuclear weapons. Recommended reading. Command and Control is very pro-read if you want to poo poo your pants in terror at how cavalier everyone was/is about nukes. https://www.amazon.com/Command-Control-Damascus-Accident-Illusion/dp/0143125788
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Rappaport posted:The Nuclear Secrecy blog has, among other cool stuff, articles that go into the US chain of command about nuclear weapons. Recommended reading. Unless you want to sleep at night that is, because it always boils down to "the President has complete authority because during the Cold War the fear was crazy Generals, not crazy Presidents"
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https://twitter.com/ellievhall/status/890282258950758401 I too remember the story of how Seal Team Six had to repeatedly stop hunting Bin Laden so that their trans member could do something trans-y.
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Soylent Yellow posted:So not only can Trump dictate US policy via Twitter, but he can also use it to raise the DEFCON level. Cool country Tarezax posted:That IS a Japanese TV show. Look there's a lot going on today what can I say...normally I'd pick up on the difference and the graphics should have again been my first clue Kale fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jul 26, 2017 |
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Willo567 posted:Just to be clear, people thought he was talking about striking North Korea because of his first tweet, right? I mean, for starters, it seems like he's willing to enact huge policy changes based on stupid misunderstandings of conversations he had the day before.
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Alright https://twitter.com/SenatePress/status/890244337879134208 https://twitter.com/SenatePress/status/890289894790238208 So this first vote is again procedural about waiving Byrd for elements of the amendment. It will need 60. After that is a vote on the rest of the amendment (Repeal on two year timeframe). It will need 50. After that is the Donnelly motion which is, iirc,, to send the bill back to committee. It needs 51
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farraday posted:Alright So we actually want the 3rd vote to pass, which is unlikely.
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If Trump really made some bone-headed decision about nukes wouldn't the generals say sure thing, then immediately call up Pence and say hey let's avoid a messy coup and just all agree you're President now? Then they could tell Trump he has to oversee the coming war from a special command bunker so they get him on Military One then just drop him off at Trump Tower in New York.
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davebo posted:If Trump really made some bone-headed decision about nukes wouldn't the generals say sure thing, then immediately call up Pence and say hey let's avoid a messy coup and just all agree you're President now? Then they could tell Trump he has to oversee the coming war from a special command bunker so they get him on Military One then just drop him off at Trump Tower in New York. Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.
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davebo posted:If Trump really made some bone-headed decision about nukes wouldn't the generals say sure thing, then immediately call up Pence and say hey let's avoid a messy coup and just all agree you're President now? Then they could tell Trump he has to oversee the coming war from a special command bunker so they get him on Military One then just drop him off at Trump Tower in New York. Lol Drop him off at Trump Tower? There's a reason why coups don't let the deposed leader live.
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axeil posted:That 20% who want to attack Japan are amazing. Playing the long game on their WWII revenge. Japan's occupations and rape of Korea go back way further than WW2. This animosity is hundreds of years old.
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Will congress pass the wildly unpopular bill and stick it to the American public again. Stay tuned. I pray that one day you guys will be able to just do things like I did today and register for my government funded blood test online that I need without some rear end in a top hat trying to take it away because of a beef with his predecessor in government.
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Rigel posted:1st vote has already failed. Second vote will be more important, only needs 50, but expected to fail. They said that about the motion to proceed though
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Kale posted:They said that about the motion to proceed though No they didn't.
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Rigel posted:1st vote has already failed. Second vote will be more important, only needs 50, but expected to fail. I'm gonna have to take that back. It looks like they skipped the Byrd waiver and are voting directly on the Amendment? Cspan doesn't think this is procedural and https://twitter.com/SenatePress/status/890296431466229761 In any case with 3 nos (4 McCain just voted no) it fails.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:No they didn't. Then why was everybody so surprised and literally saying it was impossible as of like a couple days ago before Heller flip flopped cause Trump scary apparently. I mean yeah it needed a tie breaker but I don't remember anyone besides me thinking it had a chance of being opened for debate.e E: McCain no. Can't wait for mad trump to demonize him on twitter by dinner time.
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Kale posted:They said that about the motion to proceed though Who is "they"? On the day of the vote, we believed they may have 50.
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There Bias Two posted:Wow McCain no. Didn't we know he was going to do that? He's voting for cutting the individual mandate.
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Kale posted:Then why was everybody so surprised and literally saying it was impossible as of like a couple days ago before Heller flip flopped cause Trump scary apparently. I mean yeah it needed a tie breaker but I don't remember anyone besides me thinking it had a chance of being opened for debate. Everyone was pretty sure it was going to pass as soon as we knew that McCain was going to drag his rear end out of the hospital. Murkowski was the only chance at a third no.
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