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goose willis posted:Death Guard is awesome but there is so much more diversity to Chaos, far more than you'll ever find in the loyalist chapters that are all just palette swaps of each other with various overpowered rules to keep the kids happy Chaos marine factions aren't diverse at all. They're just pallet swapped marines with spikes and eternally salty players.
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At least they aren't NPC factions, who's only purpose is to get pumped full of bolter rounds 
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The thing about Chaos factions is that it's really easy to split them based on loyalty, or lack thereof, to the gods. You have your four most devout chapters. You have the Word Bearers, who I imagine are super into Chaos Undivided as a philosophy. You have the Black Legion, who I imagine see Undivided as a means to an end. You have the Night Lords, who don't have much love for Chaos at all. You have the Alpha Legion, who I don't even know are loyal or not these days. And then there's Perturabo and his group of sad jealous babymen. The Marine legions theoretically differ by tactics, but as Marines are the flexible army that can get lost in translation.
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Jul 27, 2017 05:00
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BULBASAUR posted:At least they aren't NPC factions, who's only purpose is to get pumped full of bolter rounds To be fair, I think if you're not World Eaters, Death Guard, or Black Legion you're still an NPC faction.
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Isn't the whole point of Iron Warriors that they're the NPC chaos guys? E: I mean their whole thing seems to be that they're totally happy to throw themselves into a meat grinder... Pendent fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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Jul 27, 2017 05:04
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JoshTheStampede posted:Are dual pistols or dual chainswords still legal Vanguard Vet load outs in the codex? Yes. And it's loving awesome. Specifically: "The Veteran Sergeant may replace his bolt pistol and chainsword with two items from the following list: A storm shield, a relic blade, or an item from the Pistols and Melee Weapons lists." Strictly speaking, there is no restriction from taking the same option twice (that'd be "two different items"). It just so happens that two storm shields or two relic blades is completely pointless. Further justification: Taking a Plasma Pistol and Chainsword (for example) also falls under taking the third option twice. "Any Space Marine Veteran may replace his bolt pistol and chainsword with a storm shield and an item from the Pistols or Melee Weapons lists, or with two items from the Pistols and/or Melee Weapons lists." This one flat out says you can take two from the list, and it's glorious. A full size squad shits out 41 attacks.
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Pendent posted:Isn't the whole point of Iron Warriors that they're the NPC chaos guys? It's called the Iron Cage, dad. You wouldn't understand!
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Vanguard Sgts should be able to circumvent the "characters only" rule for relics. Anyone know if there's any wargear price changes? chutche2 fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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The Bee posted:It's called the Iron Cage, dad. You wouldn't understand! 
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Safety Factor posted:This isn't the first time they've gotten rid of las/plas. They did the same thing in 4th edition. It was back in the next book and twin-linked assault cannons were added to the list of options. Some stuff never came back. RIP autocannon scouts.
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goose willis posted:An elite force of humanity's most elite warriors, who employ elite units? Why, I never, just loving stop the presses right now we've got a hell of a scoop I completely agree and I wholeheartedly welcome the new 100% bigmar direction we're heading. Down with the decisive chapter system! Long live GeneriBigBois 4 Eva!
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Jul 27, 2017 05:34
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Bobby G's Big Bois 4 lyfe
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Ebook version of the marine codex is $40 Welp, guess I'm going to get a pdf on the internet day 1. Physical copies of horus heresy redbooks are $40. I think my 5th ed IG softcover was like $25 or 30. That was pretty reasonable. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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Safety Factor posted:It was actually the Imperial Fists throwing themselves into the Iron Cage. There were Iron Warriors in there first. If all of their friends were jumping off of a bridge, would the Imperial Fists do that too?
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bonds0097 posted:Everyone, except scouts, get a left red hand. Veterans have both hands red. So a Sergeant would be left red hand, Vet Sergeant who has served in 1st (Crusading) company gets both. I was like, yay more Fists players! The I realised, boo they're way better painted than my Fists. Good work dude.
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goose willis posted:Can you seriously tell the difference between all the loyalist marine chapters? Why is it so important to you? The fewer special snowflake rules GW try to come up with the better IMO. Dr Hemulen fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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The Bee posted:There were Iron Warriors in there first. If all of their friends were jumping off of a bridge, would the Imperial Fists do that too?
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Pendent posted:Isn't the whole point of Iron Warriors that they're the NPC chaos guys? What warham doesn't like grinding meat?
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chutche2 posted:Can still use the index entry for las+plas Please don't advocate cheating. 
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BULBASAUR posted:What warham doesn't like grinding meat? It was one time thing! I was drunk...
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GW was very specific in saying you can use anything in the Index that didn't transfer over to the Codex. I was just hoping I wouldn't have to do it all that often.
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WhiteWolf123 posted:GW was very specific in saying you can use anything in the Index that didn't transfer over to the Codex. I was just hoping I wouldn't have to do it all that often. I think mostly it's going to be easy enough for stuff like rifeldreads or las/plas Razorbacks where all you need is the points cost, and hopefully outside of the Marine range which is huge and has tons of legacy stuff which has been carrying over there won't be too much to keep track of.
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Corrode posted:I think mostly it's going to be easy enough for stuff like rifeldreads or las/plas Razorbacks where all you need is the points cost, and hopefully outside of the Marine range which is huge and has tons of legacy stuff which has been carrying over there won't be too much to keep track of. Ya, I'll be able to make 1-2 quick photocopies and keep 'em in my codex. A lot of other legacy players use a lot of bike characters though, most of which are gone now. For those folks, it'll be more of a pain in the rear end. I understand why they removed the bulk of the legacy stuff (it is helpful to new players) but it is kinda obnoxious to need to flip between multiple books if you own a lot of the legacy range/old options.
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Rip me, just have to highlight the last Intercessors and contemptor and paint the librarian and now my backlog just swelled by 13 men and a redemptor. 
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Jul 27, 2017 12:58
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How much do Agressors cost in match play?
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43ppm with guns and grenades, about the same with flamestorm I think.
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Uroboros posted:How much do Agressors cost in match play? Edit: i cant read.
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WhiteWolf123 posted:Ya, I'll be able to make 1-2 quick photocopies and keep 'em in my codex. Yeah I have a full bike army and losing the characters is aggravating.
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Corrode posted:Yeah I have a full bike army and losing the characters is aggravating. You can still use 'em; it's just cumbersome to have to flip between multiple books now. 
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This would be the part where biting the bullet an saying "new codex use this period" would be the better move. Now they'll have to balance the index plus anything else going forward. Pretty mucu the exact thing people hated when using say base chaos codex plus traitor legions. Two books to manage one army.
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The Bee posted:And then there's Perturabo and his group of sad jealous babymen. lol
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T-T-TRIPLE CROSSPOST! If you haven't already checked out the Goon Chapter Challenge thread, go do so. It's a hoot. Zuul the Cat posted:STAR JUSTICARS
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New Nurgle transport spotted in the wild. Scuttle, scuttle, scuttle.
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Artum posted:my backlog just swelled by 13 men and a redemptor. My sweet, sweet summer child
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WhiteWolf123 posted:Ya, I'll be able to make 1-2 quick photocopies and keep 'em in my codex. I keep hearing "most" - which bike characters exactly are gone now? Or to put it another way, who CAN take bikes still?
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I think the captain on bike is the only one still in the codex, as they still have that metal White Scar model for sale. Not that it really matters with them still being available in the index.
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Hixson posted:My sweet, sweet summer child *slides burning of prospero and space hulk out of sight*
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MasterSlowPoke posted:I think the captain on bike is the only one still in the codex, as they still have that metal White Scar model for sale. Not that it really matters with them still being available in the index. Can apothecaries take jump packs or is that only Blood Angels at this point?
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JoshTheStampede posted:Can apothecaries take jump packs or is that only Blood Angels at this point? That was only ever Blood Angels wasn't it? Jump pack command squads were a BA thing. Hixson posted:My sweet, sweet summer child 140 models unpainted at the moment, although a bunch of that is poo poo I should really get around to selling or giving away.
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