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HIJK posted:wtf is happening to Marvel comics Well, not what you quoted. I'm not sure what that guy is reading.
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X-O posted:Well, not what you quoted. I'm not sure what that guy is reading. It was someone's speculation that he took as gospel despite the guy saying it was speculation.
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Jul 27, 2017 20:28
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X-O posted:Well, not what you quoted. I'm not sure what that guy is reading. he and several other people are reading someone's prediction as what's actually happening in secret war right now
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Jul 27, 2017 20:28
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It's ending leads to the Vanishing Point/Generations stuff. They aren't going to bother with anything Ultimate Universe.
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Jul 27, 2017 20:32
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E&C's Punisher criticism is right on. Another thing that has been bothering me is: What's up with Sharon Carter? Wasn't she supposed to be a Hydra, or at least Zemo, mole? Did that get resolved?
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Jul 27, 2017 20:33
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Soonmot posted:What's up with Sharon Carter? Wasn't she supposed to be a Hydra, or at least Zemo, mole? Did that get resolved? She's a regular good guy SHIELD agent who Steve's kept around him un-arrested/executed. She didn't escape, but did just try to stab him in the neck with a piece of wood after the Black Widow thing. edit: I've only been reading the main series, so if she's spying for the resistance or something in other comics, I dunno. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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Jul 27, 2017 20:39
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Teenage Fansub posted:More BC Avengers Man I am really not feeling this whole thing. It reminds me of those variant TMNT figures they started putting out when they ran out of ideas.     I mean Aaron's a good writer, but the premise does nothing for me.
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Jul 27, 2017 20:41
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yea having prehistoric avengers is just kinda lame to me I'm prepared to be proven wrong but can't say I'm enthusiastic to buy that book
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Jul 27, 2017 20:48
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Lurdiak posted:Man I am really not feeling this whole thing. It reminds me of those variant TMNT figures they started putting out when they ran out of ideas. All of those are great though?
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Jul 27, 2017 20:58
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They still need to show the 1,000,000 B.C. Ghost Rider, and that is very, very exciting.
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Jul 27, 2017 21:11
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Teenage Fansub posted:She's a regular good guy SHIELD agent who Steve's kept around him un-arrested/executed. I don't think she's doing anything other than being a prisoner.
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Jul 27, 2017 21:12
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What's up with the Ultimate Cap speculation? He died Randy Quaid'ing Galactus. Or does the Ultimate Universe's resurrection not mean anything for it's continuity. I did not read Secret War
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Jul 27, 2017 21:12
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Sinners Sandwich posted:I did not read Secret War You really gotta change that! I really liked Secret War and I was one that had know clue WTF was going on with Marvel at the time.
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Jul 27, 2017 21:13
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Sinners Sandwich posted:What's up with the Ultimate Cap speculation? He died Randy Quaid'ing Galactus. Or does the Ultimate Universe's resurrection not mean anything for it's continuity. I did not read Secret War The speculation is coming from Ultimates 2 where The Maker just brought the Ultimate universe’s Ultimates back to existence but they’re obviously just copies and not the actual Ultimates, I’m guessing.
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Jul 27, 2017 21:19
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While it would be a hilarious undercutting of the premise of Legacy to have Steve Rogers be the Ultimates version...I am more than reasonably confident they ain't doing that
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Jul 27, 2017 21:22
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Why are people spoilering terrible speculation? Ultimate Cap is not going to replace Hydra Cap.
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Jul 27, 2017 21:36
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But we can all agree that it is a really good idea and Spencer will totally stick the landing if he did it.
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Jul 27, 2017 21:45
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X-O posted:Well, not what you quoted. I'm not sure what that guy is reading. tbf replacing Nazi Cap with shouty homophobic Cap sounds like something that would come out of the Secret Empire brain trust
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Jul 27, 2017 22:26
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Between Secret Empire and Gwenpool it really sucks to be Miles Morales. Also lol at Falcon's totally unearned triumphant return.
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Jul 27, 2017 22:37
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HIJK posted:tbf replacing Nazi Cap with shouty homophobic Cap sounds like something that would come out of the Secret Empire brain trust if they'd done it the other way around and had hydra cap be the ultimate version, that would actually work a lot better than what's happening. it'd also distance real cap from the whole nazi thing
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Manatee Cannon posted:if they'd done it the other way around and had hydra cap be the ultimate version, that would actually work a lot better than what's happening. it'd also distance real cap from the whole nazi thing What if Ultimate Cap has been in the place of our Cap ever since Secret Wars? And Dream Cap is really our Cap trying to find his way back? 
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Jul 27, 2017 23:24
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TheHan posted:Also lol at Falcon's totally unearned triumphant return.  And then New Patriot called him a dummy for not representing all the suffering Americans just because America is a racist shithole full of fascists, maybe it was always a racist shithole full of fascists, both sides are bad, both sides do it, but he's got to stand up for the downtrodden. See? Totally earned!
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Alls i know is that the prediction people made since like a month before this even started will be true. Hydra cap will slowly break down from being too evil and good cap's spirit will take over to redeem him. Like exactly what Rick Jones said in his video message. It's just funny how simultaneously boring and edgy this is being. Sidenote: I think hydra punisher wasn't talking about bringing his family back, but bringing back all the heroes that hydra killed. Like they get to take over the world, kill heroes, then use the cosmic cube to resurrect them so it's like hydra did nothing wrong. Again it's dumb and boring, but it at least gets halfway to interesting.
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Billzasilver posted:Alls i know is that the prediction people made since like a month before this even started will be true. Hydra cap will slowly break down from being too evil and good cap's spirit will take over to redeem him. Like exactly what Rick Jones said in his video message. So he was going to Hal Jordan as Parallax before the dumb retcon's them? Except Hal had that power in his hands and had visibly demonstrated he could do it before promising something like that? Also E&C is completely right that this isn't Frank Castle. I think a lot of people are letting themselves justify that this one is okay because "Oh the murder vigilante joined up with the Nazi's, that makes sense." No it really doesn't. Hunting down and killing people as a government stooge while simultaneously ignoring the mass of criminals who work under the Cap Regime is loving blindingly dumb.
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Onmi posted:So he was going to Hal Jordan as Parallax before the dumb retcon's them? Except Hal had that power in his hands and had visibly demonstrated he could do it before promising something like that? I feel like you could actually do some interesting Punisher stories where the Punisher has to deal with people who idolize him.
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Nessus posted:I feel like you could actually do some interesting Punisher stories where the Punisher has to deal with people who idolize him.
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Onmi posted:So he was going to Hal Jordan as Parallax before the dumb retcon's them? Except Hal had that power in his hands and had visibly demonstrated he could do it before promising something like that?
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Edge & Christian posted:See if you had read the (final) issue of Captain America: Sam Wilson this week, you'd know what happened is that Misty Knight neck-rolled and sassed Sam so hard about being a weak rear end snowflake beta cuck bitch that he knew he had to nut up or shut up and inspire all these people. See I thought he might be up to something plot relevant in his own book this week. Glad they saved all that Joking aside, why do big events so often put vital story beats in the supplementary material? I feel like that would convince most people to just wait for the trade, and I was lead to believe that waiting for the trade is one of the things hurting the comics industry.
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achillesforever6 posted:I think people are projecting on Punisher based on what a lot irl shithead cops, soldiers, and assholes in general do in emblazoning their cars and guns with Punisher logos. I didn't even get to say it, but I think Spencer is characterizing Punisher based off of those thin-blue-line stickers and flags I see popping up on duelies everywhere, and not really anything else.
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Jul 28, 2017 04:33
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X-O posted:Well, not what you quoted. I'm not sure what that guy is reading. Yeah, I didn't read the post right. My bad.
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TheHan posted:See I thought he might be up to something plot relevant in his own book this week. Glad they saved all that Event writers often flesh out story beats in the tie ins they write. Bendis did it all the time with his Avengers books.
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Nessus posted:It may be wrong for the Punisher as a particular character, but I got the feeling the vibe for people going "that makes sense" was about the Punisher as perceived being hand-in-glove with Steve von Rogers and the Proud Boys. Seems like the Punisher story should have been Frank dealing with someone who idolised the Punisher and then joined up with HYDRogers.
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Open Marriage Night posted:Event writers often flesh out story beats in the tie ins they write. Bendis did it all the time with his Avengers books. See also infinity
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Spencer just got confused and thought he was writing 2099 Punisher instead.Edge & Christian posted:That's been a secondary or primary plotpoint in nearly every Punisher run of the past 10-15 years, and was the backbone of the big "Suicide Run" crossover the Punisher books had in the mid-1990s. Hell, Circle of Blood had him agreeing to do vigilantism for a group, then going 'wait, gently caress that' when he discovered they were gonna be running a team of Punishers and 'wait, double gently caress that' when he learned they'd be recruiting from criminals too. Frank has basically been opposed to anyone Punishering but him since he first started out. Rucka's run with Cole-Alves is the biggest exception and even that works in him seeing someone with what he thinks might be compatible trauma then realizes isn't (because no one can be the Punisher but Frank Castle because Frank Castle isn't a real person who can do things like miss or make a bad shoot). But hey I guess the promise of getting his family brought back, the exact thing he killed Micro, his oldest ally, for giving into, is enough to flip that! Or whatever. Comics are dumb, read what you like and ignore the rest, you'll be saner that way. RandallODim fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jul 28, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/alexdnz/status/890927906494574592
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Jul 28, 2017 14:52
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Annual events when well done are good. Like Infinity.
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Marvel fans: STOP MAKING EVENTS Marvel fans: Also I mean events will sell better than series that "don't matter". Marvel: Uhhhh so everything is an event now? Marvel fans: NOOOOOOOOOOO
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Jul 28, 2017 15:23
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Gatts posted:Annual events when well done are good. Like Infinity. But their never consistent enough to justify the annual part. Make them semi-annual. Gives the comics more time to do their own thing and establish a status-quo, and gives more time to creatively polish the event stories.
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Jul 28, 2017 15:23
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Biannual. Semiannual is literally the opposite of what you want.
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With how delayed the past several big summer events have been, we're in Event Mode like 6-7 months out of the year, if you count the Prelude/Road to… stuff. That doesn't even factor in the smaller things like Standoff. I doubt it would be as big of an issue if it weren't happening All The Time.
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