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Pesky Splinter posted:I've been going through the Seventh Doctor era stuff, and I've gotta say, I like the one where he takes a cruise vacation to Mexico with Benny and Jamie Every time I think the rabbit hole can't go ANY deeper...
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CobiWann posted:Every time I think the rabbit hole can't go ANY deeper... The wilderness years were a wild and frightening time. I basically went into a cave, emerged briefly in 1996 and watched the sun come out and then a cloud roll back in the front of it, went back into the cave and popped back out in 2005. There were terrible things that happened outside the cave in the interim. Terrible, terrible things I thank God every day I was hidden from. Edit: Also there were the monks over at Big Finish building a dark-ages style library.
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How'd you manage the Christmases without Chimes of Midnight? It just wouldn't be Christmas!
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Ah, I don't know. Timothy Dalton is fun and all but the return of the Time Lords amounts to him standing on a platform menacing David Tennant with a Nintendo Power Glove (of Rassilon). Rassilon being full-on evil was one thing that sort of annoyed me when it came out (and I took things too seriously, because I was a stupid teenager) because I had very limited familiarity with Big Finish and only knew Rassilon from "The Five Doctors", where I thought he was more ambiguous (it's hard to see him as a villain when you get the First Doctor chuckling about how wise he was for realising that immortality was a curse rather than a blessing). Having heard a bunch of Big Finishes where Rassilon's a massive time dick since then, I appreciate it more. "The End of Time" was my least favourite revival story/episode because I'd built up so many expectations for it as the Tenth Doctor's last adventure and David Tennant's big finale, and it fell short of them. I was hoping it would be this big blowout extravaganza (like "The Stolen Earth" and "Journey's End" sort of were). I realise that RTD was going for something lower key that really comes through in the scenes where it's just Ten and Wilf, and that stuff's great, but then all of the Time Lord stuff leaves it in a kind of awkward halfway house between the two.
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Jul 30, 2017 01:21
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The time lord stuff is so wonky in that ep. They show up, do nothing and go back again. Pointless. In true RTD style of course they Deus ex Machina everyone back to normality before they go. Phew, glad we didn't have consequences for that plotline!
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Jul 30, 2017 01:36
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It's fun watching the Master switch sides three or four times in the space of two minutes though
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Jul 30, 2017 01:38
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DoctorWhat posted:How'd you manage the Christmases without Chimes of Midnight? He spent the holidays in Walford.
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Plavski posted:The time lord stuff is so wonky in that ep. They show up, do nothing and go back again. Pointless. In true RTD style of course they Deus ex Machina everyone back to normality before they go. Phew, glad we didn't have consequences for that plotline! Yeah but their outfits are impeccable. And Dalton is such fun. And lol the character wrap up at the end. Martha and Mickie married for some reason?
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Jul 30, 2017 01:48
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I did like that in Day of the Doctor, the only acknowledgement that whole thing got was the General all "The High Council's gone completely batshit, let's just ignore them." I cannot possibly defend The End Of Time as objectively good television. It is nonetheless one of my favorite Tennant-era stories.
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Jul 30, 2017 01:51
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marktheando posted:And lol the character wrap up at the end. Martha and Mickie married for some reason? RTD (chain smoking): Oh God what was the name of Martha's fiance.... Todd? Was it Todd? I think it might have been Todd? I guess I should look it up... oh God is that the time? This loving deadline! gently caress it.... she marries.... Mickey why not? Yeah that'll do. Moffat was sitting across the room from him chuckling because he's already written all of season 5, and thus felt safe to kind of kick back and not worry about season 6 for awhil-oh God he forgot to write season 6! 
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Jul 30, 2017 01:53
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The only episode I disliked as much as "The End of Time" was "Let's Kill Hitler". However, I think the second one is worse on balance, because even though it has Rory punching out Hitler and shutting him in a cupboard, it doesn't include Wilf.
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Jerusalem posted:Moffat was sitting across the room from him chuckling because he's already written all of season 5, and thus felt safe to kind of kick back and not worry about season 6 for awhil-oh God he forgot to write season 6! "Rusty, calm down about deadlines, it's not as though anyone would mind if the show just went off the air for a year."
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moffat: there's a... crack? there's a crack in time and it's from....... something... please stay tuned
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Jul 30, 2017 01:58
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What if...just stay with me...what if there's these machines, and they are completely out of control but not actually malicious, and there's no actual villain in the story?
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Jul 30, 2017 02:00
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Wheat Loaf posted:The only episode I disliked as much as "The End of Time" was "Let's Kill Hitler". However, I think the second one is worse on balance, because even though it has Rory punching out Hitler and shutting him in a cupboard, it doesn't include Wilf. The End of Time suffers badly because the first part of it is just so, so, so, so goddamn awful: The scene in the quarry with Ten and the Master, and the diner scene between Tennant and Wilf, are literally the only worthwhile bits of the entire episode.
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Also I could have a child repeat some cryptic phrase fifty-seven times. (I actually quite like Moffat as a writer more often than not, it's the production side he's clearly not suited to, but the man does favor certain wells.)
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Moffat: Okay look I know we just kidnapped their baby.... but what if it turns out they unknowingly grew up with their own child as a friend of theirs? That's like... exactly the same as raising a child, right? RTD: Look I don't care, just make sure you reuse alien make-up with different coloring than previously, and have them claim racism when the Doctor mistakes them for the other race. That poo poo is gold. Chibnal: Look I'll just ape whatever style you guys want while I bide my time to take contr-scratch that last part, I'm no threat to either of you!
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Jul 30, 2017 02:03
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I feel like if RTD had written "The Doctor Falls", it would have started with Cyber-Bill advancing menacingly on the Doctor, only for him to flash the sonic screwdriver at her and instantly zap her out of the suit, all in one piece, then they leg it to the accompaniment of Blondie's "One Way or Another". I suppose if Moffat had written "The Parting of the Ways", it would have ended with the Doctor telling Rose she can't handle the power of the TARDIS and kissing it out of her before she destroys the Daleks with it, then uses it to destroy them himself while Rose swoons in the background. 
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Wheat Loaf posted:I feel like if RTD had written "The Doctor Falls", it would have started with Cyber-Bill advancing menacingly on the Doctor, only for him to flash the sonic screwdriver at her and instantly zap her out of the suit, all in one piece, then they leg it to the accompaniment of Blondie's "One Way or Another". it would be revealed that rose's mom is also rose, sent back in time by the power of the vortex
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Jul 30, 2017 02:26
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Moffat and RTD ended up finishing out their time on the show in similar ways, having a big blowout ending and then staying on an extra year to finish out their Doctors' runs. Davies went a bit lower-key for his actual finale than his intended one, while Moffat went the other way and raised the stakes, since the lower key is his key of choice anyway.corn in the bible posted:it would be revealed that rose's mom is also rose, sent back in time by the power of the vortex
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Jul 30, 2017 02:48
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2house2fly posted:Moffat and RTD ended up finishing out their time on the show in similar ways, having a big blowout ending and then staying on an extra year to finish out their Doctors' runs. Davies went a bit lower-key for his actual finale than his intended one, while Moffat went the other way and raised the stakes, since the lower key is his key of choice anyway. the little black girl is martha, who will be sent back in time later so she can grow up and then marry mickey
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You never got this type of poo poo with Ten/Donna!  Edit - OK, maybe a little bit with Turn Left. Edit 2 - What ending where she gets her mind erased? You must be mental, I don't remember that at all!
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Jul 30, 2017 02:56
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I want to take all these deliberately godawful parody ideas, turn them into actual stories, and just see what happens. Because I bet some of these would be classics if you pitched them the right way.
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Jul 30, 2017 02:58
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I want to get a job for Big Finish poring over televised episodes looking for even the slightest gap (or suggestion of one) to wedge in 10-15 years worth of stories between moments 
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Jul 30, 2017 02:59
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Pesky Splinter posted:I've been going through the Seventh Doctor era stuff, and I've gotta say, I like the one where he takes a cruise vacation to Mexico with Benny and Jamie Holy poo poo...this is a thing that exists.  This happened in my timeline. I'm a bit drunk right now; I'm going to have to come back to the thread tomorrow to see if it's still there and watch it because I have my doubts right now.
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CobiWann posted:You never got this type of poo poo with Ten/Donna! Exciting Adventurous Donna Noble was sent back in time to become Boring Donna Noble Who Hates Her Life And Wants To Kill Herself. Twice. corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jul 30, 2017 |
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Jul 30, 2017 03:27
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I always think I liked Planet of the Dead, but then I realize I'm only remembering the scene where the Doctor gets on the bus. It's a machine that goes 'ding'!
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Jul 30, 2017 03:29
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Forktoss posted:I love how Sylvester doesn't even pretend to give half a poo poo about the whole thing and is obviously making up most of his lines on the spot. This was also the famous fat-Levine-superimposed-on-Gallifrey scene.
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but seriously donna was cool and it sucks how her story ended. like at least martha got to remember what happened
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egon_beeblebrox posted:Even "The Twin Dilemma?" Because, yow, that one is ROUGH. The Twin what now? I said all 13, from Arc of Infinity to Caves of Androzani, and that's the end of the season. The end of the season.
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After The War posted:The Twin what now? I said all 13, from Arc of Infinity to Caves of Androzani, and that's the end of the season. It's not the end of the season—whether you like it or not! 
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Jul 30, 2017 06:04
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Don't worry, the new season begins with... oh God, Attack of the Cybermen?
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argh why do we not have a Thirteen episode yet WHY okay I'm better. I expect I'll have one of those fits every week or so, I'll try to keep them under control seriously where are the episodes where are they.
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marktheando posted:Lol If you haven't seen McCoy's stuff do that, it's good.
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corn in the bible posted:If you haven't seen McCoy's stuff do that, it's good. Be fairly warned, you gotta get through Time and the Rani first  Somebody posted a little while back Andrew Cartmel detailing the build up to season 24 and how pleased he was to get Sylvester McCoy as the Doctor, only to recoil in horror as he dealt with Pip'n'Jane and realized how incredibly lovely the material he'd have to deal with would be. And that was people's introduction to the McCoy era.
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Jerusalem posted:Don't worry, the new season begins with... oh God, Attack of the Cybermen? Attack is oka- It's not ba- It's not that b- ...yeah. (I actually think it's better than Vengeance on Varos, which is usually cited as the high mark of qual-, watchability for the Colin Baker era. But I really don't care for Vengeance on Varos at all.) Poor Colin Baker, it really wasn't his fault.
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Jul 30, 2017 08:02
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At least we have several seasons worth of Audio and Comics for Colin that redeem his Doctor
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docbeard posted:It's also completely reasonable to acknowledge that something has a lot of flaws but that you don't care a bit about those flaws and enjoy it anyway. (Me, when talking about The End Of Time, for example.) Yeah, I won it years ago and I ain't giving it up now After The War posted:even Warriors of the Deep for chrissake, because the underlying themes of that era resonate with me and the kind of storytelling I connect with. Warriors of the Deep is an interesting one, because every single bit of the world building is marvellous and every single bit of the actual story relies on everyone, the Doctor included, acting like a complete moron to get the next plot point. "Doctor, we're cut off from the TARDIS and the guards think we're saboteurs!" "In which case let's ACTUALLY sabotage the base, that'll confuse em"
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This might be of interest to some. https://www.humblebundle.com/books/doctor-who-rpg-books
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The only part of Warriors of the Deep I've seen is the bit where Ingrid Pitt karate kicks the Myrka and I'm quite content
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